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ChAOoz
post Dec 1 2019, 12:28 PM

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2 - 3% of total car sales are made up of EV.

Toyota alone sold around 10mil cars a year for 2018, the whole EV industry shipped 5mil.

Btw full EV car is easier to make then traditional fuel powertrain. There are currently close to 500 full EV models with completed prototype. But due to low margin, intensely fierce competition and shortages in batteries supply, most company do not want to go that route for now, unless there is subsidies from Gov such as in China.

Even Dyson can make EV,so do you think its so hard for Toyota to make one ? Its whether is commercially viable to market it.
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post Dec 1 2019, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(Nachiino Etamay @ Dec 1 2019, 12:34 PM)
dyson ev is dead.

and go look at every single manufacturer history of EV

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Are you a Tesla stock holder ? I've seen many of those holding TSLA confusing the company with the industry.

Liked you said, Dyson EV is dead. Why is it dead ? Cause they don't have the tech ? No it's cause the industry no need to 2 Tesla, its too small of a segment for two Tesla to compete and be profitable.

Current market share for EV is too small. You are either upper segment of slick electric vehicle, or large commercial vehicles like buses if you want to be profitable in Electric.

In the middle, it its still dominated by the likes of Toyota, Volkswagen, GM etc. If you are a Tesla stock holder, you should be happy the mid segment would not want to compete with you.

Just image If BMW go full EV, the worse off would be TESLA. Cause BWM is taking a big addressable market and shrink it down to compete head to head with Tesla on a niche market, causing a blood bath between those two to secure sales from a small addressable market.
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post Dec 1 2019, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(Nachiino Etamay @ Dec 1 2019, 12:53 PM)
i personally want more people to make EV's.

chinese have lots of companies, but most of them majority of them make less than 1,000

In order to move the needle of transition, we need EVERYONE TO GO EV's. in the best case scenario, if all capital moves away from ice towards EV's, we can have a zero ice environment by the start of 2040.

To me, any manufacturer who doesnt go EV, deserves to be slaughtered. im a big fan of volkswagen and some chinese companies who have the guts to make the transition. it may be the thing that save them.

If not, their clock is already ticking. Every ICE sports car is inferior to the mid range EV's in terms of performance, and whoefully inferior in safety. its basically a bomb on wheels, i fail to understand why we put soo many people lives at risk by putting them on a bomb on wheels.

shit man, we need everyone to build EV's
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Bottle neck is the infrastructure and battery supply chain keeping adoption low. Last time the infrastructure for cars many were build or lobbied using money from oil companies.

For the new EV industry, nobody has the cash like the old oil giants to burn. You can see some oils company are starting to build infra for EVs but not in big scale like last time. Cause EV is not profitable like oil tongue.gif

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