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 SGD 3000 vs RM 5000 SALARY, who win?

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kimjiwon
post Nov 27 2019, 11:02 AM

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If RM20k in Malaysia, will you consider SGD10k in Singapore?
Let say you have wife and kids.......for sure single probably will choose SG cause kids education, tuition, lifestyle is quite expensive in SG
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post Nov 27 2019, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Nov 27 2019, 11:07 AM)
if got kids definitely SG ironically because of the superior education system. heck many pr msian convert to citizen in SG just so that they can get slots for their kids and hopefully place them into NUS/NTU.
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SGD10k/month with the kids spending in SG would not have the lifestyle for RM20k/month in Malaysia. So means you would like sacrifice the lifestyle and less saving (compare to stay in Malaysia) for your kids better education in SG. Remember that tuition fee and expenses in SG are much higher, and to save more you need to trade off by taking public transport rather than have your own car
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post Nov 27 2019, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(cloudwan0 @ Nov 27 2019, 01:18 PM)
Not sure how you all getting that 20k myr better than 10k sgd...
As per my observation, sgd10k living better than 20k myr...

SG housing loan rate between 2~3%, MY between 4~4.5%
SG got HDB, monthly pay using CPF, SG employer contribute 17% vs MY 13%
SG income tax lower 15% vs MY 24%

Car and petrol both about the same (no conversion), civic turbo 120k, petrol around 500, but this in SG is optional
Personally I drive Audi A4, I spend about 400 petrol and 300 for toll and parking

Food price, for example ding tai feng, dinner for 4 cost sgd80~100 vs myr 160~250, order about the same thing, my personal experience.

Bills SG better, cheaper telco, internet, electricity but water is expensive, every month about sgd250, in MY I spend about myr600

Talk about education, SG childcare is expensive, primary/secondary schoo is free, tuition fees in SG is sgd20-40 per class, I think Malaysia also about the same or cheaper
but SG will save you a lot when come to university

Due to the currency rate, buying luxury things and travel, sgd always better compare to myr, Rolex 10k sgd vs 30k myr...
So I’m no sure why you all think myr20k is better living compare with sgd10k
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you mentioned loan rate...what kind of property are you paying the installment? HDB or high end condo that >SGD1.5k?
SGD10k after you become PR and deduction, probably take home pay is only SGD7k+. Let say you if you rent 1 unit for the family, easily >SGD2k. What is your monthly housing loan payment? More than 2k or less?
kids school fee, tuition, transportation, nanny etc, cost how much? You don't have kids?
Anyhow your wife working, or no wife, no gf then you can claim to save a lot
you mentioned petrol, Audi....by any chance they come free? how parking you need to pay? toll is free? telco, internet all free?
your lifestyle only stay at home after work. and still work most of time the rest of year?
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post Nov 28 2019, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(cloudwan0 @ Nov 27 2019, 09:01 PM)
Haha, do you really read my comments?
When you earn 10k why you don’t buy your own hdb?
You don’t even know the cpf contribution cap at 6k and you can use 70% of your cpf contribution for house repayment.
For 10k, you will bring back about 8.5k after the cpf and income tax
I stay in hdb, price about 600k when I buy. When amount is huge 1~2% will make few hundred difference
I only pay extra 1k, and others 1k+ paid by using cpf

For kid
As I said during preschool SG is expensive, monthly paid for full day care from Sgd700~1.2k, if you already go for full day why you need nanny? Nanny price is 800~1k+, usually SG ppl will go for half day and another half take care by maid.
Maid price here is cheap, 400~700, levy is 60 for working mother, 260 for non working mother, agent fees 1k+

When go to primary school, you save sgd700

I think MY childcare is 1k+ and same for nanny

For car, how much you spend in MY will be about the same in SG, just that car is opt in SG, some will take grab which will be cheaper option compare to own a car, hdb parking is 110sgd, working place parking is depending, from 100 to few hundreds

My lifestyle would be, Friday I will hang out with my frnd at bar, Saturday and Sunday will bring my family to park/mall/movie/activity by gov or sometime visit jb/kl or Batam

Before I come SG, I used to stay in kl for 10 years, kl got less things to do.

Don’t just listen to 1 side of story, earning sgd3k vs sgd10k lifestyle is completely different, don’t even say about those who earn less than sgd3k, which travel between jb/SG
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Well you have your explanation. I don't you have lots of saving after you spend the way you had mentioned. seems like your car and parking is free.haha
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post Nov 29 2019, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(cloudwan0 @ Nov 28 2019, 04:12 PM)
Malaysia also have public housing...
I didn’t bring up the comparison, look back my previous post, I said, SG have hdb...
You really just reply base on you like, don’t even read the post first before comments
I already told the parking cost, car repayment similar to Malaysia, and it is optional

You don’t know how much I earn/save/spend, not sure what your comments trying to point out...
Many members already point out, SG saving more compared to malaysia
What you need to spend in SG will be the same in MY
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i believe everybody like to work in SG due to its currency is 3X higher
don't you think you got your lifestyle downgrade by staying in HDB?
Well, I think you like to spend more on car, driving Audi but staying in HDB is like staying in low cost flat
although compare SDG10k to MYR20k, for your lifestyle is SG is a downgrade to MY and doesn't seem like you will save more for MYR20k for the same lifestyle
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post Dec 2 2019, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(cloudwan0 @ Nov 29 2019, 03:58 PM)
Haha, I never said I earn only sgd 10k

For me, I prefer hdb over condo, due to the condo in Singapore is overpriced.
And I also taking advantage of the subsidy given by SG gov. After 5 years, I’m actually looking at landed.
I actually not eligible to buy hdb, just that, my appeal got approved.

I’m not sure what do you mean by downgrade compare to MY? I drink Starbucks, eat fine dining, travel euro/japan, one or twice per year, so do you do that in MY when you earn myr20k?

I wonder in KL you do the same like me, how much you can save with your 20k salary?

What’s wrong to drive Audi and staying in hdb? I don’t feel any downgraded.
My car only 160k, monthly only pay sgd1.2k
i saw people driving s class, 7 series stay in hdb and tons of people driving merc, bmw, Jaguar, Lexus, even porches stay in hdb
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sounds like what you do can be achieved with MYR10k when staying in Malaysia. LOL thumbsup.gif
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post Dec 2 2019, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(cloudwan0 @ Dec 2 2019, 03:53 PM)
Ya, not sure what mindset he have...
Haha, I still sleep well eat well, will not upset just bcos a post in /k
If you can achieved them very good, my experienced, I know how hard to stay in KL with family of 4
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yeah, gambate......let's work towards better lifestyle and hapiness icon_rolleyes.gif

 

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