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TSOrchid beauty
post Nov 23 2019, 07:30 AM, updated 7y ago

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They are same category like Amway.

The people so optimistic. Always love to preach doing for society, make people smile and better.

Are they so happy with their current job and life ?

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post Nov 23 2019, 07:38 AM

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I heard that USINI is scam too
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post Nov 23 2019, 07:39 AM

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Infact they are butthurt that force themselve to smile.

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post Nov 23 2019, 07:40 AM

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post Nov 23 2019, 07:41 AM

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QUOTE(Orchid beauty @ Nov 23 2019, 07:30 AM)
They are same category like Amway.

The people so optimistic. Always love to preach doing for society, make people smile and better.

Are they so happy with their current job and life ?
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make people smile and better can improve health.

ts btfo
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post Nov 23 2019, 09:01 AM

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For sure product is good

Just see how rich r those agents after certain sales deal closed

Then u know whether its wprth to buy it or not

Supplement is not expensive to eat
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post Nov 23 2019, 09:09 AM

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Utah based MLM companies again?
Thanks TS never heard of it before.

Utah is like Silicon Valley for Tech companies,
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post Nov 23 2019, 09:12 AM

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public listed company
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SUSkevin23
post Nov 23 2019, 09:15 AM

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Ppl already make tonnes of money and here is a clown that says its a scam.

Go read up the definition of scam
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post Nov 23 2019, 09:33 AM

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Mlm, the product also overpriced.

Buy at guardian/watson better
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post Nov 23 2019, 09:42 AM

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My father kidney was in bad condition, doctor told him 9 months later must go for dialysis, he refuse to accept the fact

The out of sudden Usana sales man appear from friends friend, recommend take Usana supplements will prolong the time before going dialysis

Paid 3k plus, ate it... 1 month later kidney gone, must dialysis immediately

Then the fucker came n said impossible, recommend other products try to eat

Conclusions, when your health is shit, don't take MLM supplements, they are not regulated locally and your body wouldn't know whether can take it or not, always seek advise from doctors who have your body report, not talk cock sales person

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post Nov 23 2019, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(KenaKecamKawKaw @ Nov 23 2019, 07:38 AM)
I heard that USINI is scam too
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USAIN is fastest man.
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post Nov 23 2019, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(KenaKecamKawKaw @ Nov 23 2019, 07:38 AM)
I heard that USINI is scam too
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Yeah

And USITU too
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post Nov 23 2019, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(KenaKecamKawKaw @ Nov 23 2019, 07:38 AM)
I heard that USINI is scam too
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Luckily i use USATU!
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post Nov 23 2019, 09:58 AM

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MLM

There is always a peak moment
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post Nov 23 2019, 10:03 AM

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one of my uni friend who move to sg already & her husband is usana agent. fcuking hate her husband. keep drag me to talk bout usana. come on lah... so many years want to meet up old friend end up her husband keep drag me into usana conversation. not like the supplement is cheap also.
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post Nov 23 2019, 10:06 AM

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If supplements work, no need for medicines already. Don’t spend mindless money on supplements. The salesman will talk cock because he just wants your money. After getting his commissions, he will say bye bye to you. Same goes to those pharmacy.
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post Nov 23 2019, 10:30 AM

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Totally mlm lar, still wan to ask
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post Nov 23 2019, 01:12 PM

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Amway, Shaklee, Cosway, Usana and other Direct-Selling(DS) companies are exploitative marketing schemes/scams selling hyped-up products at twice or more the normal retail price. The extra profits is used to be distributed to upline and downline members as an incentive for them to recruit more members and sell more over-priced products, usually to their relatives and acquaintances = victims.
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Eg Vitamin supplement selling for RM50 a bottle/30 pills at Guardian/Watson, the DS companies sell the same for RM100 a bottle/30 pills by hyping or falsely claiming extra health ingredients/benefits and blah blah blah or brain-washing stuffs. The extra RM50 profits(= RM100 - RM50) is used to pay commissions to downline and upline recruiters/direct-sellers, up to 3 or 4 levels of recruitment and for the coffers of the DS companies.

1 top person or upline direct-seller recruits 3 Level One downline direct-sellers,
the 3 Level One downline direct-sellers in turn recruit 9 Level Two downline direct-sellers, ie 1 person recruits 3 other persons,
the 9 Level Two downline direct-sellers recruit 27 Level Three downline direct-sellers,
the 27 Level Three downline direct-sellers recruit 81 Level Four downline direct-sellers.
....... 1 to 3, 3 to 9, 9 to 27, 27 to 81 = a pyramid.

Direct-selling is a limited pyramid scheme = limited to a few levels of recruitment. Ponzi schemes and MLM scams are unlimited pyramid schemes that will eventually run out of new recruits after a few years = the masterminds disappear with the loot of RM millions. Even if prosecuted, they just spend a couple of years in jail and come out still a millionaire in their foreign bank accounts.

- 1 Level Four downline d-s sells a bottle of the RM100 Vitamin supplement and gets about 15% commission or RM15.
- 1 of the 27 Level Three d-s who recruited the above Level Four d-s gets about 10% commission or RM10 from the above sale.
- 1 of the 9 Level Two d-s who recruited the above direct-sellers gets about 7% commission or RM7 from the above sale.
- 1 of the 3 Level One d-s gets about 5% commission or RM5 from the above sale.
- The 1 top upline d-s gets about 3% commission or RM3 from the above sale.
....... Total payout in commissions by the DS company to the top upline and Level One to Four direct-sellers is RM40(= RM15 + 10 + 7 + 5 + 3) = company pockets RM10 out of the extra RM50 profit from the above sale of the RM100 Vitamin supplement.

If all 81 of the Level Four downline direct-sellers each sold 1 bottle of the RM100 Vitamin supplement, the top upline direct-seller gets RM243 commissions/income(= 81 X RM3 from every sale) from his/her simple recruitment effort.
....... If all the 81 Level Four d-s each sold RM1k of stuffs per month, the top upline d-s gets RM2,430 commissions/income per month(= 81 X RM30 or 3% of RM1k).
....... If the 27 Level Three, 9 Level Two and 3 Level One d-s also sells RM1k of stuffs per month, the top upline d-s also gets about RM2,000 more per month. Total monthly income of the top upline d-s is often at least RM4430. That is how top upline direct-sellers can earn RM 5-figures passive income per month in good months and show off their Mercedes and bungalows to tempt new members.
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vanillapire
post Nov 23 2019, 01:16 PM

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post Nov 23 2019, 07:05 PM

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QUOTE(vanillapire @ Nov 23 2019, 01:16 PM)
Worse brand ever
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You have life experience before with this brand?

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post Nov 23 2019, 07:06 PM

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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Nov 23 2019, 09:15 AM)
Ppl already make tonnes of money and here is a clown that says its a scam.

Go read up the definition of scam
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You mean the agent or the company?

I noticed the agent very positive and always say want to make me smile and lead a healthier life. In the end I say no to their products and he looks disappointed .
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post Nov 27 2019, 06:07 AM

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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Nov 23 2019, 09:15 AM)
Ppl already make tonnes of money and here is a clown that says its a scam.

Go read up the definition of scam
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How you justify that?

I'm doubtful of their expertise in health aspect.
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post Jan 8 2020, 09:41 PM

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Bumped as PSA.
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post Jan 12 2020, 08:53 PM

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post Jan 13 2020, 07:47 AM

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Direct sale and mlm alot, and mostly member is consist of wimminz. Most topper wimminz will share how good ,got dinner in xxx hotel then trip to Mana Mana...
But the bottom can eat yourself.
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post Jan 13 2020, 08:05 AM

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QUOTE(SuperTuhan @ Nov 23 2019, 09:42 AM)
My father kidney was in bad condition, doctor told him 9 months later must go for dialysis, he refuse  to accept the fact

The out of sudden Usana sales man appear from friends friend, recommend take Usana supplements will prolong the time before going dialysis

Paid 3k plus, ate it... 1 month later kidney gone, must dialysis immediately

Then the fucker came n said impossible, recommend other products try to eat

Conclusions, when your health is shit, don't take MLM supplements, they are not regulated locally and your body wouldn't know whether can take it or not, always seek advise from doctors who have your body report, not talk cock sales person
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Quoted so that I could fark seller later
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post Jan 13 2020, 08:09 AM

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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Nov 23 2019, 09:15 AM)
Ppl already make tonnes of money and here is a clown that says its a scam.

Go read up the definition of scam
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scammer always make money la hahaha
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post Jan 13 2020, 08:35 AM

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few of my high school friend, doing USANA at my hometown

they are now rich.. at least /k standard, 20K/per month

All my hometown market sapu by them.. my, my hometown ppl really rich anyway


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post Jan 13 2020, 08:37 AM

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QUOTE(pakmulau @ Jan 13 2020, 08:09 AM)
scammer always make money la hahaha
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Define scammer
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post Jan 13 2020, 08:43 AM

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The MLM selling Auloura pants also. Day day agent post but only fellow agents like...syiok sendiri.
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post Jan 13 2020, 09:25 AM

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cos u r potential downline, see u ofc smile lah make moneh 4 them
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post Jan 13 2020, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Jan 13 2020, 08:37 AM)
Define scammer
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scammer
/ˈskamə/

a person who commits fraud or participates in a dishonest scheme.
"scammers are preying on people's good intentions"
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post Jan 13 2020, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(pakmulau @ Jan 13 2020, 10:33 AM)
scammer
/ˈskamə/

a person who commits fraud or participates in a dishonest scheme.
"scammers are preying on people's good intentions"
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Exactly the right definition. Now tell me which part of USANA is a scam?

You pay money, they give you a product.

Can you please explain which part is the scam?

Did someone take your money and refuse to give you the product?

Do you even know what is a scam?

Seems like you lack alot of IQ and EQ

This post has been edited by kevin23: Jan 13 2020, 10:40 AM
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post Jan 13 2020, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Jan 13 2020, 10:37 AM)
Exactly the right definition. Now tell me which part of USANA is a scam?

You pay money, they give you a product.

Can you please explain which part is the scam?

Did someone take your money and refuse to give you the product?
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nah sendiri tau la pay money got product

scammer will always be scammer

"scammers are preying on people's good intentions"

participates in a dishonest scheme
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post Jan 13 2020, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(pakmulau @ Jan 13 2020, 10:40 AM)
nah sendiri tau la pay money got product

scammer will always be scammer

"scammers are preying on people's good intentions"

participates in a dishonest scheme
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Go find out the definition of " dishonest"

U need to balik sekolah and study harder


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post Jan 13 2020, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Jan 13 2020, 10:56 AM)
Go find out the definition of " dishonest"

U need to balik sekolah and study harder
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"scammers are preying on people's good intentions"

participates in a dishonest scheme
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post Jan 13 2020, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(pakmulau @ Jan 13 2020, 10:59 AM)
"scammers are preying on people's good intentions"

participates in a dishonest scheme
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Go find out the definition of "dishonest" ya. If this also dont understand, no wonder you think USANA is a scam

Go back to school and study harder yea. If dont know English, please go learn English and dont ask ppl to translate to BM




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post Jan 14 2020, 11:37 AM

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i always wonder
1. if certain product is so good, why it doesn't sell in pharmacy? Eg : blackmores
2. if certain product is so good, why it doesn't get affirmation from doctors/pharmacy?

one common things i notice in MLM
1. product goodness always is internal (no external affirmation/certificate/global awards)
2. they always said u can't find this goodness on other products on market

Supplement from Blackmores aren't better?
Air purifier from BlueAir aren't better?
Water filter from Panasonic/LG aren't better?
This are Worldwide Recognize brand.
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QUOTE(meatsteak @ Jan 14 2020, 11:37 AM)
i always wonder
1. if certain product is so good, why it doesn't sell in pharmacy? Eg : blackmores
2. if certain product is so good, why it doesn't get affirmation from doctors/pharmacy?

one common things i notice in MLM
1. product goodness always is internal (no external affirmation/certificate/global awards)
2. they always said u can't find this goodness on other products on market

Supplement from Blackmores aren't better?
Air purifier from BlueAir aren't better?
Water filter from Panasonic/LG aren't better?
This are Worldwide Recognize brand.
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good question.anyone can guess d answer?
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post Jan 25 2023, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(blueblueoutofblue @ Jan 13 2020, 08:35 AM)
few of my high school friend, doing USANA at my hometown

they are now rich.. at least /k standard, 20K/per month

All my hometown market sapu by them.. my, my hometown ppl really rich anyway
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where is your hometown? i think need to go to your hometown do business if got potential.
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QUOTE(meatsteak @ Jan 14 2020, 11:37 AM)
i always wonder
1. if certain product is so good, why it doesn't sell in pharmacy? Eg : blackmores
2. if certain product is so good, why it doesn't get affirmation from doctors/pharmacy?

one common things i notice in MLM
1. product goodness always is internal (no external affirmation/certificate/global awards)
2. they always said u can't find this goodness on other products on market

Supplement from Blackmores aren't better?
Air purifier from BlueAir aren't better?
Water filter from Panasonic/LG aren't better?
This are Worldwide Recognize brand.
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mamak maggi goreng not in supermarket ?
roti canai telur not in supermarket ?
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post Jan 25 2023, 06:00 PM

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My uncle selling ato** products

Always ask me to look thru catalogue

No matter how many times I look thru and I wanna help. I can't seem to find a reason to buy

First, the edible products, I don't even know if they're safe etc

Second , products such as detergents etc we don't even know if the products are effective as those in the supermarket

Third, the prices are yahoodee

So I came to a conclusion, because these products need to pay commission to so many levels of downline and upline etc , it's impossible for them to beat the prices of goods by more reputable brands that directly ship to supermarkets rather than go thru agents...and of course they don't have such a big market to conduct r&d like bigger brands.
So I'd actually rather belanja my uncle eat than buy an overpriced product which gives him a small percentage of commission ....

Inb4 no shit Sherlock..

This post has been edited by Knnbuccb: Jan 25 2023, 06:01 PM
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post Jan 25 2023, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(~Curious~ @ May 29 2021, 01:36 PM)
good question.anyone can guess d answer?
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answer as above.

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post Jan 25 2023, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(genjo @ Jan 25 2023, 05:49 PM)
mamak maggi goreng not in supermarket ?
roti canai telur not in supermarket ?
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Wrong comparison bro...

Supermarket is not mamak restoren, so why should it sell roti canai telur and Maggi goreng???? LOL

On the other hand, those MLM brands are selling health supplements that are usually sold at pharmacies.

My bet is, the reason why they can't sell there is because people who look at the prices will automatically look away.more Reputable brands are selling at cheaper prices than MLM brands.
People will automatically compare

If you sell it via agents , people won't have something to compare against it...plus people are buying based on persuasion of agents who are usually friends and family members. So that's how they get People to buy. Because they realize customers are humans and humans have relationships. Sometimes u tend to buy something just to support Ur friends etc

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