QUOTE(TOS @ Dec 3 2019, 11:42 PM)
What are the returns like for ASM1, 2 and 3 in the last 10 years?Ultimate Discussions of ASNB Fixed Price UT, Magical UT only in Malaysia
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Dec 4 2019, 09:01 AM
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Dec 4 2019, 10:39 AM
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Dec 4 2019, 11:18 AM
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Dec 4 2019, 11:29 AM
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Dec 6 2019, 11:26 AM
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QUOTE Financing approved: RM200,000 Takaful contribution: n/a + Protection amount: n/a + Protection term: n/a Total financing: RM200,000 Financing tenure: 37 years (max) Rate: 4.85% Monthly Payment: RM971/month Processing Fees: RM60 (one time, included in the first installment) 4.85% finance cost to receive around 5 to 5.5% total returns???? Am I missing something here? |
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Dec 6 2019, 01:16 PM
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Dec 6 2019, 03:18 PM
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Dec 6 2019, 03:01 PM) You are missing quite a lot. Try reading up on: Compounding at 5% is better than compounding at 1.5% p.a 1. Amortization 2. Compounding interest Thank you. Apparently based on the above person's reply, plenty of non-bumi don't understand it either. As if they do not know that you can't simply compare annual interest rates and compounding returns; and proceed to make silly comments. I rest my case. So how does amortization bring a return on investment? |
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Dec 6 2019, 03:41 PM
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Dec 6 2019, 03:35 PM) Interest on the loans are paid based on a reducing balance. As you pay your installments, your interest payments get reduced. That's true. Provided all things being equal at that dividend being maintained. Right now I see the dividends on a down trend from 10 years back.On the other hand, you are probably already clear about compounding. For those who don't, compounding returns takes into account the previously accumulated returns plus capital when calculating the upcoming return So in general, people who keep on mentioning 4.85% vs 6.5% really has some understanding to do. For example of actual calculation: after 5 years of taking up RM200k financing, the 4.85% interest on a loan balance of RM189k yields a different number than a 6.5% on the now compounded RM275k value. |
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Dec 6 2019, 03:58 PM
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Dec 6 2019, 03:55 PM) then we can discuss the compounding returns, and when I said returns, it includes negative returns as well. Thus you may even have negative returns over the years like properties, or depreciation like cars. 4.85% vs 6.5% is a start. It gives an indication of the expected premium earned. Nothing wrong with that.But to talk about 4.85% vs 6.50% is just a folly, as if you can't relate the reducing balance interest (4.85%) vs the compounding returns (6.50%) |
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