ASM is a fixed price Fund and it is not a capital guaranteed or capital protected fund.
Ultimate Discussions of ASNB Fixed Price UT, Magical UT only in Malaysia
Ultimate Discussions of ASNB Fixed Price UT, Magical UT only in Malaysia
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Apr 1 2025, 01:30 PM
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ASM is a fixed price Fund and it is not a capital guaranteed or capital protected fund.
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Apr 1 2025, 10:13 PM
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QUOTE(cms @ Apr 1 2025, 05:02 PM) The statement is quoted directly from the prospectus.It means you can lose all your money. Unlike fixed deposit which is protected by PIDM, ASM is not. Hence, its return of 5% is not attractive at all , weighing its risk. Investors are assuming they can always redeem at RM 1 per unit. But they forgot that's not guaranteed |
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Apr 2 2025, 11:11 PM
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QUOTE(MattSally @ Apr 2 2025, 08:34 PM) Looking at all the pros and cons of all the different investments available, I still find it difficult not to prefer ASM FP Funds. Maybe a better return with EPF but liquidity is an issue. VP Funds are not performing well, RIA doesn’t seem to be doing much. I guess the mouse trap is designed beautifully...you got no where to go except towards the direction which 'they' are nudging uI keep being reminded of the old saying ‘If it isn’t broke, don’t fix it!’ ASM FP Funds do not deliver a spectacular dividend but they are reliable. In today’s geo political situation, I think that is very important. |
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Apr 2 2025, 11:13 PM
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Apr 17 2025, 07:59 PM
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QUOTE(MGM @ Apr 17 2025, 07:50 AM) Markets getting turbulent, parking on ASMx n EPF waiting for opportunity, at least they don't go - ve, only worry about MYR weakness. Thinking of parking some AUD in RHB multi currency account, anyone doing that? Unker doesn't understand why u wanna do that?If moving to AUD can make 5% + 0.6% FX losses, then it's reasonable. If you're not sure, u might as well keeping it in ASM |
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Apr 17 2025, 08:03 PM
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Jul 6 2025, 10:29 AM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jul 4 2025, 09:39 PM) Yes. If really got that much $$$... Very easy to outperform ASM. Just ALL in Maybank and you'll get higher dividend than ASM.I already done it last time, so my ASM 3 is at very minimal level.... Because if you look at historical figures... ASM 1 dividend average is higher... I'm waiting for ASM 2.dividend... but looking at ASB 3 didik... I don't expect ASM 2 & 3 to get same dividend rates as ASM 1.... Probably just following last year rate... Which lower than ASM 1 this year.... Like happen to ASB 3 didik..... |
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Jul 6 2025, 10:32 AM
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QUOTE(lim47 @ Jul 4 2025, 03:54 PM) This is probably the largest and fastest transfer of wealth In fact, everyone can outperform the historical return by ALL in Maybank stocks which gives higher dividend surpassing the historical yield given. And if you read the fine print , it is not capital guaranteed although it's fixed price This post has been edited by boyboycute: Jul 6 2025, 12:39 PM |
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Jul 6 2025, 10:39 AM
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QUOTE(MGM @ Jul 6 2025, 10:35 AM) I tot u were promoting diversification, now all in to 1 stock. Just putting it out there to offer some alternatives to this scheme How do u compare EPF with Oz Super? https://www.news.com.au/finance/superannuat...146158576c02fa0 In the portfolio, you can clearly see Maybank is the top holding. Unfortunately, return given never surpass Maybank dividend. Logically, where did it go? Aussie chose their own unit trust. This unit trust is fixed price but NOT capital guaranteed. Unfortunately, many treat it like capital guaranteed This post has been edited by boyboycute: Jul 6 2025, 10:41 AM |
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Jul 6 2025, 10:42 AM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jul 6 2025, 10:40 AM) Partly agreed Many never sell their units Because dividend part is big Yes... But shares price???? There's risk of lower.... But if higher... Then double profits.... ASMx is fixed rm1.... If you are that type who never sell, just go straight to Maybank stock nexona88 liked this post
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Jul 6 2025, 12:55 PM
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QUOTE(Ayambetul @ Jul 6 2025, 12:48 PM) Pass 6 month maybank share value has been dip. Historically, Maybank dividend is ALWAYS higher than ASM return. Both move down in tandemYes dividend is high but lost on price. With current geopolitical situation no one can tell whether it can maintain or continue dip. Don't forget Fund management charges This post has been edited by boyboycute: Jul 6 2025, 12:56 PM |
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Jul 6 2025, 02:31 PM
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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Jul 6 2025, 02:04 PM) unker please Unker bought UK Gilt this year, last year Aussie bondsdont go to every thread to talk bad about them. go to EPF thread told off people there they will SUFFER risk and uncertainties EPF can collapse any time etc now come to ASM thread again talking like you very clever people here all stupid go buy shares lah etc then talk big about your bonds safer than EPF better return, sekali kena questioned tak boleh answer sudah realised bonds lagi risky than EPF you turn 180 degrees said you bought Sovereign Bonds pulak I have been buying bonds past many years From PBB bonds AA rating with coupon 7.5% to more risky ones HSBS Select series 1 12-13% Tell me what sovereigns bonds you bought let them check facts you talk truth or nonsense why not you go FD thread tell them there stupid FD so low? |
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Jul 7 2025, 02:10 AM
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Unker also cannot login in leh
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Jul 7 2025, 02:18 AM
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Jul 7 2025, 02:58 AM
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Successful purchase
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Jul 7 2025, 12:08 PM
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QUOTE(frankliew @ Jul 7 2025, 10:32 AM) Don't have to go crazy with it lah. 5% only mah....If miss it, just ALL in Maybank. No management fee. Dividend is always higher.You get stock appreciation too You must remember:Fixed price is not CAPITAL GUARANTEED This post has been edited by boyboycute: Jul 7 2025, 12:09 PM |
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Aug 16 2025, 09:29 PM
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ASM is not capital guaranteed and it shouldn't be treated as risk free investment
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Aug 17 2025, 01:26 PM
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Aug 18 2025, 08:55 AM
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QUOTE(jkmak @ Aug 18 2025, 03:06 AM) Scenario 1Massive collapse in the stock market which break the peg of RM 1 per unit. May be redeemable for less than RM 1. No capital guaranteed Scenario 2 Zero dividend declared due to massive losses in stock market. You lost money due to inflation. Took risk for nothing Other risks, please refer to Product Disclosure Sheet Past performance is not an indication of future returns |
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Aug 18 2025, 10:09 AM
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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ Aug 18 2025, 10:08 AM) Unker put into US treasury bond, long end looks attractive. Unker also bought UK Gilt ,Oz bondUnker didn't trust these munkey anymore ...not every species is capable to run a country properly ... Just stick to the world 's most liquid and most accepted reserve currency Everything else is bull shit This post has been edited by boyboycute: Aug 18 2025, 10:23 AM qhw liked this post
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