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beLIEve
post Dec 19 2019, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(starry-starry @ Dec 19 2019, 04:38 PM)
Not as much as poor fella certainly! 馃槀馃槀馃槀

I just wonder if I am just unlucky or it's seriously difficult to get any units these few days..
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if less than unker poor fella also cannot get, i would say just unlucky
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post Dec 19 2019, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(beLIEve @ Dec 19 2019, 04:37 PM)
nothing i suppose? more buyers offset by people who give up

dividend will depend on global economy.
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so it can be better than ASB??
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QUOTE(moosset @ Dec 19 2019, 04:42 PM)
so it can be better than ASB??
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no, heaven forbid that. unless they want a change of government in 15election
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QUOTE(starry-starry @ Dec 19 2019, 04:38 PM)
Not as much as poor fella certainly! 馃槀馃槀馃槀

I just wonder if I am just unlucky or it's seriously difficult to get any units these few days..
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i bought until i thought my money ran out on monday. then i dumb dumb stayed quiet on tuesday. on wednesday, my hands got itchy and started digging around in all my bank accounts. God bless me and i found almost rm3k. i bought asnb with it and stayed quiet until now. just came back from withdrawing matured fd and making placement for more fd at mbsb bank. kept some cash to try buying more asnb too. laugh.gif
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good morning, ladies n gentlemen. a quiet morning with no fish for me until a few minutes ago. got rm1k x 3 asw laugh.gif

God bless u n me laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(beLIEve @ Dec 20 2019, 01:14 PM)
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I havent seen the video, but did they summarize it as I did?

The ACTUAL NAV/unit is not known, because we do not know the number of units outstanding (in circulation). So when they give our distributions, the NAV drops, but price remains RM1/unit; however, the actual NAV/unit may be ABOVE or BELOW the selling price of RM1/unit


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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Dec 20 2019, 01:26 PM)
I havent seen the video, but did they summarize it as I did?

The ACTUAL NAV/unit is not known, because we do not know the number of units outstanding (in circulation). So when they give our distributions, the NAV drops, but price remains RM1/unit; however, the actual NAV/unit may be ABOVE or BELOW the selling price of RM1/unit
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they have exemption from SC not to disclose their balance sheet. to cut the explanation really short, if ASNB wasn't backed by the government, extremely risky to put money in.
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QUOTE(beLIEve @ Dec 20 2019, 01:31 PM)
they have exemption from SC not to disclose their balance sheet. to cut the explanation really short, if ASNB wasn't backed by the government, extremely risky to put money in.
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That's the problem. The CEO just went on record, that the units are capital guaranteed

Who guarantees it? What are the details of the guarantee? Is there a limit on the guarantee?
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that's the problem when you have too many products
kalau dulu cuma ada asb sj kan tinggi dpt. skrg ada didik la asm la wawasan la, tambah pekerja lagi, byk untung pun ini semua mau cover ini semua mcmana
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QUOTE(darosha @ Dec 20 2019, 02:00 PM)
that's the problem when you have too many products
kalau dulu cuma ada asb sj kan tinggi dpt. skrg ada didik la asm la wawasan la, tambah pekerja lagi, byk untung pun ini semua mau cover ini semua mcmana
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ASNB actually have very few funds compared to, say, Public Mutual. They have like what? 80+ funds last I checked.

CWA have a good number too

Problem is that the 180B NAV they have is parked mainly in Malaysia

Also the new CEO is young, is he being manipulated by the Chairman, and in turn, by Tun by proxy? I don't know, just putting it out there.
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Does the govt guarantees for KWAP & TH? When in trouble, the govt still comes in to rescue them. Hopefully ASx get the same treatment when the need arise.

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QUOTE(MGM @ Dec 20 2019, 02:04 PM)
Does the govt guarantees for KWAP & TH? When in trouble, the govt still comes in to rescue tehm. Hopefully ASx get the same treatment when the need arise.
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I know of TH, but what about KWAP? I know it's being discussed in the courts now, which is why i couldn't bother. Prefer to wait till it blows over

5B loan to 1MDB was it? Did 1MDB default? Did KWAP get paid back?
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QUOTE(darosha @ Dec 20 2019, 02:00 PM)
that's the problem when you have too many products
kalau dulu cuma ada asb sj kan tinggi dpt. skrg ada didik la asm la wawasan la, tambah pekerja lagi, byk untung pun ini semua mau cover ini semua mcmana
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Dulu ekoonmi pesat kembang. FD pun 7%. Sekarang dah stagnant. Tak banyak company kat new Malaysia yang dia orang boleh labur. That's why they start investing overseas.

Kat US, IPO easily x billion USD. New Malaysia mana ada lagi company camtu.
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QUOTE(beLIEve @ Dec 20 2019, 02:08 PM)
Dulu ekoonmi pesat kembang. FD pun 7%. Sekarang dah stagnant. Tak banyak company kat new Malaysia yang dia orang boleh labur. That's why they start investing overseas.

Kat US, IPO easily x billion USD. New Malaysia mana ada lagi company camtu.
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What was the biggest IPO Malaysia had before this?
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QUOTE(MGM @ Dec 20 2019, 02:04 PM)
Does the govt guarantees for KWAP & TH? When in trouble, the govt still comes in to rescue tehm. Hopefully ASx get the same treatment when the need arise.
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depends on the vote bank la. ASB 5.5% already cause some vote loss.

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Dec 20 2019, 02:09 PM)
What was the biggest IPO Malaysia had before this?
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not much into KLSE, so I didnt follow. i just guess Petronas Gas (or was that Chemicals) and Maxis relisting.

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QUOTE(beLIEve @ Dec 20 2019, 02:08 PM)
Dulu ekoonmi pesat kembang. FD pun 7%. Sekarang dah stagnant. Tak banyak company kat new Malaysia yang dia orang boleh labur. That's why they start investing overseas.

Kat US, IPO easily x billion USD. New Malaysia mana ada lagi company camtu.
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that's the idea
invest outside especially when malaysia's economy not that good
there's many business patuh syariah outside even in nyse
its not like they care about that when investing in non-patuh syariah banks
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QUOTE(darosha @ Dec 20 2019, 02:18 PM)
that's the idea
invest outside especially when malaysia's economy not that good
there's many business patuh syariah outside even in nyse
its not like they care about that when investing in non-patuh syariah banks
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they're doing that already. sabar.....

now you just hope that your uncle donald pull back his troops from trade war.
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Dec 20 2019, 02:07 PM)
I know of TH, but what about KWAP? I know it's being discussed in the courts now, which is why i couldn't bother. Prefer to wait till it blows over

5B loan to 1MDB was it? Did 1MDB default? Did KWAP get paid back?
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https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/201...to-kwap/1786527

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