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samuraix79
post Jul 16 2020, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Jul 16 2020, 04:57 PM)
i think faiz can help answer a bit on the hibah part.
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Jul 16 2020, 05:17 PM)
you are right. In the event where the hibah-nominee faces her demise at the same time as the account holder, the hibah is nullified and the estate will be subdivided as per faraid law. There are a few options to solve this although they have their caveats

1. Hibah-nominate the children, not the spouse. This way in the event of account holder demise, the children will get the payout, but if they are underaged, the guardian will have full rights to the money - in this case the guardian would be the surviving parent

Additionally if both parents perish at least the money would still only go to the family members that are then the guardian of the children

2. Set up a trust on your Takaful. I am assuming that you already have Takaful certificates. If you don't, let's get some. Do note that Takaful has the same hibah issues as per your question. "Hibah to your spouse, but if both of you go at the same time, how?"

If you set up a trust and absolute assign these Takaful certificates to the trust, in the event where both parents face their demise, the payouts will be made to your trusts, the trust is "programmable" and is free from any Faraid laws applicable to a dead Muslim person in Malaysia

Sorry I had to plug in Takaful and trust into the conversation, it is simply a better and more comprehensive setup than offered by the financial institutions individually

thanks for the plug man
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Nice, yeah we do what we can so their interest are still covered :laugh.gif
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post Jul 24 2020, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Jul 23 2020, 04:19 PM)
QUOTE(faizfizy39 @ Jul 23 2020, 07:17 PM)
So BBB?

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- 3 pilihan portfolio: Konservatif, Sederhana, Agresif
- Setiap portfolio berbeza % untuk setiap dana
- 3 dana: ASN Sara 1, ASN Equity 3, ASN Imbang 2
- Fi:
--> RM1.50 sebulan untuk akaun baki bawah RM6K
--> 0.3% setahun untuk akaun dengan baki RM6K ke atas
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QUOTE(TOS @ Jul 23 2020, 09:22 PM)
Er, what is "BBB"?

This should be a good service overall, but the charges are too high for "micro-investing" purpose, in my opinion. It should be a fraction of the money you place in the account, rather than the 1.50 monthly fee for < 6k account.

If say my bank account has 1000 MYR remaining every month (non-cumulative), the fees would add up to 1.8% for the whole year, worse than putting my money straight into myASNB's VP fund directly. If it's a few hundreds, then the charges (in %) would be very high.

Of course, the charges really depends on how much one puts in. If one's account has 6k, then one year the charges only amount to 0.3%, better than investing through myASNB.

But with a 6k capital, I don't see how you would call this a "micro-investing" platform. For small capital, such exorbitant charges (measured in %) would defeat the purpose of promoting it as "micro-investing" platform.

But it's good that they want to move away from promoting FP fund, as they have found it hard to churn out high yields for their FP funds in recent years.
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If want to know more about how the variable funds, you can try the discussion thread thumbsup.gif
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4681522
samuraix79
post Aug 7 2020, 05:21 PM

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As with all investment, if you think you can find better, please consider it, you know what's best for you, in terms of time spent, constant checking etc. ASNB you only check once a year hah hah. But if you diverge to other dividend type stocks also the same loh.

Finally did my Hibah just before close of RM50 promotion last week yay! rclxm9.gif
I had to travel twice to branch because they need me to bring trustee ID copy also doh.gif they didn't mention in the website list of documents to bring, who will know.

But Aug another promotion, RM80 like previously.
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post Aug 10 2020, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(beLIEve @ Aug 7 2020, 07:00 PM)
your personnel didn't tell you can WhatsUp the ID to him/her to print? mine did that
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Hmm, the person at the counter said, "you tak bawa tak apa, balik print dulu, besok boleh datang lagi, promosi masih ada" sweat.gif
I did ask if can somehow submit it to their email, they say only have common email, not personal, something like that.
Nvmla, already done whistling.gif
samuraix79
post Sep 25 2020, 03:09 PM

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Wah was hunting high and low only found the thread back in FBIH section hah hah, aiya missed the ASM2 announcement, tied up with work didn't even realise dividend come in at 4%. Slowly diversifying d but will still maintain my ASNB funds, just not top up that much.
And now we wait for ASM3 in a couple of days!

Good to be back here.
samuraix79
post Oct 2 2020, 10:56 AM

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I myself am vested in ASNB, SSPN (including the limited time +1%) and equity. Really depends what are the promotions available that time, not every time is a good time, just have to be aware which one can perform better than FD. Or else why the unker and aunties got time to go bank transfer money here and there and just put on short term FD in whichever banks giving the promo. But why oh why for 1 month d no luck on fishes for me mega_shok.gif
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post Oct 2 2020, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Oct 2 2020, 12:49 PM)
did you really try?

Now so easy can do  on  phone,
1 login can click 10x x3 ASX for 1 account  then forced to take a break ..
i got RM4600 this morning with 3 accounts . yesterday only RM3500 whole day
clicking  in between work.. brows.gif
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Meaning to try harder sweat.gif

P.S. And I just managed to get 900 units ASM2 thumbsup.gif if complaining can get me units, I don't mind doing it again everyday from now hah hah

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samuraix79
post Oct 5 2020, 05:08 PM

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New campaign for Amanah Declaration. Get RM50 ASM3 units, but still have to pay fee (can't see it anywhere in the TnC but assuming full fee of RM180)

Not as attractive as before, maybe can still wait and see

https://www.asnb.com.my/ASB30tahun_HapaOct.php#PA

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samuraix79
post Oct 6 2020, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(Malaysian2468 @ Oct 5 2020, 05:42 PM)
Saw this also and tried to pre-register but it keeps bringing me back to asnb main page. Can't seem to proceed, does anyone know how?

Btw, as I am new to asnb investment, I didn't know that have to pay to nominate next of kin. Is RM180 expensive and there is an annual fee as well?
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Like I said, the fee is not as attractive as previous campaigns so you can wait and see, (I did mine for RM80 I think) almost every year there is a campaign to make investors aware of such a facility. Just like any other trust funds, if you don't put in a nominee, it goes through the federal level before it can be distributed to next of kin (and they have their own order i.e. parents, spouse, child etc) and it takes a much longer time

You can research with other facilities i.e. Rockwills, Amanahraya etc and see what's their fee like.
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post Oct 7 2020, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(-YOPPIE- @ Oct 7 2020, 10:59 AM)
Anyone finds it difficult to collect asm3 this morning?
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Difficult but not impossible, collected 900 units about 10am just now, but automatically logged out by the system suddenly.

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post Oct 7 2020, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(citymetro @ Oct 7 2020, 11:29 AM)
Very nice! I find that 8am to 10am is the golden hour for units, at least from my experience. Also, the portal system logs me out every freaking time after a transaction but the App does not. So, I am using App more often now.
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Yeah already happen to me twice today bangwall.gif but at least got transaction, got 1k ASM3
Following @guy3288 advice, try harder haha
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post Oct 8 2020, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(-YOPPIE- @ Oct 8 2020, 03:43 PM)
So did you get them successfully?
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Yeah, unit did went through, just that after complete FPX it straight log me out. So not able to continuously buy, compared to some sifus here can continue to click click click and get more units notworthy.gif
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post Dec 23 2020, 04:52 PM

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Yeah maybe will be 3.8% + 0.25 just to get it over the 4 mark. EPF rate in Feb will be interesting since many funds may be sold off to subsidize the i-Sinar initiative and i-Lestari
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post Mar 3 2021, 03:25 PM

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Targetting, I mean hoping that it will be 4.25%, ASB was released before market taking profit end 2020 early 2021, but that's just me whistling.gif
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post Mar 9 2021, 11:38 AM

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Ah, managed to get 800 for ASM2, after all the volatility, time to come back to safe haven sweat.gif
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post Mar 9 2021, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(lim47 @ Mar 9 2021, 12:42 PM)
Got any secret time?
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When I am on a break, I just click, no specific time. My success times has been quite random, 9-10am, 11-12pm, 2-3pm even after 4pm.
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post Mar 9 2021, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(lim47 @ Mar 9 2021, 01:08 PM)
Susahnya 😂
Can we use auto labur function?
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Well, our admin already mentioned, at the moment only the Bumiputera quota is available for Auto Labur.
Here's the explanation taken from the MyASNB website

"Buat masa ini, unit amanah yang dibolehkan untuk kemudahan Auto Labur ialah Amanah Saham Bumiputera (ASB), Amanah Saham Malaysia 2 – Wawasan (ASM 2) dan Amanah Saham Malaysia 3 (ASM 3). Kemudahan ini tertakluk kepada unit-unit Bumiputera yang sedia ada."

Who knows, maybe will be open to others soon. thumbsup.gif
So for now, click click click
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post Mar 10 2021, 12:32 PM

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Why blame the TS lah, he is only acting as the mod here.

Anycase, I tend to agree, can't beat em, join em or find better opportunities rclxm9.gif huat ah!

But I also think not that many people fish nowadays, just not enough fish being let out. Very stingy holders. HODL to the moon kah? doh.gif
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post Mar 10 2021, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(TheEquatorian @ Mar 10 2021, 01:12 PM)
I agree on KWSP. SSPN is in my view not sustainable either. PTPTN needs tremendous reform and there is low willingness from members/beneficiaries to repay loans. I haven’t looked at the financials but I think it will be in similar situation as TH was a few years back. The govt has been incentivizing this saving form (SSPN) but it can only do it to a certain extent. Moreover, paying interest rates above the country’s funding rate when it is effectively sovereign guaranteed doesn’t make sense.
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A little out of topic, but would like to add, for SSPN from this month till Jun there is an additional 1% interest no questions asked if you deposit from March onwards, capped at RM8000 total (meaning deposit in RM800k fresh amount during this campaign).

I also question the sustainability and reasoning for this campaign. But anyway, I am doing it since it's for my tax relief purposes too biggrin.gif

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post Mar 11 2021, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(Afterburner1.0 @ Mar 10 2021, 08:17 PM)
As usual the BIG clause is:  u need to be a SSPN-I acc holder b4 2018 & membuat penambahan simpanan terkumpul sekurang kurangnya rm500.
Dont get too excited .....
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Qualified for 2 brows.gif yeah, I think minimum is they take 4 years back, last year only 1 qualified.
So go go go, make babies icon_rolleyes.gif

Back to ASM dividend speculation, I reiterate at 3.75 + 0.3 = 4.05% because I like funny numbers

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