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post Aug 4 2021, 01:40 PM

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How do you guys get the RM5 via boost? Invested 500 but did not get anything
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post Aug 5 2021, 01:36 PM

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Easy ASM fish today.

Got like 600, 500, 800 and 1000 since morning.
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post Aug 17 2021, 12:09 PM

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Anyone noticed that the funds from Cc can be used to invest in ASNB? not sure why but my fund reloaded from cc is part of the investable fund
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post Aug 17 2021, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Aug 17 2021, 01:11 PM)
R u talking about using boost?
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Yes boost sorry
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post Aug 17 2021, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Aug 17 2021, 01:43 PM)
Do it bit by bit cos u never know when the reload by cc cant be used. Unless u can use it for other purpose. I can use it 5x 1000 for sspn  then no more, the last 1000 is used up slowly.
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Yea make sense also. Later few hundreds stuck inside boost for nothing
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post Aug 24 2021, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(starry-starry @ Aug 24 2021, 03:40 PM)
Seriously? Before that only money reloaded via online banking can invest into ASNB using Boost... I hv already topped up some amount using my banking account. If I had known this earlier, I wouldn't have done that since I can earn cashback by reloading it using CC.
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U can try la..
But if stuck inside then gg
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post Oct 1 2021, 11:25 AM

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Cant even buy because bank account is verifying
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post Nov 30 2021, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(mystvearn @ Nov 30 2021, 09:15 AM)
Since you can deposit into Amanah saham anytime you want, and withdraw anytime you want, the dividen announcement date is usually at the end of the year. How many months/smallest time frame before that date is counted for that year's dividend?
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Not necessarily end of the month. ASM1 is April 2021. Depends on how many months the funds is sitting inside
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post Nov 30 2021, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(mystvearn @ Nov 30 2021, 10:27 AM)
Meaning to get this kind of returns (below), funds need to be in the account by April of each calendar year? So whatever deposited after doesn't count towards dividend?
Second question, there is no problem withdrawing large amount (5 digits or more0 of ASB into bank account right? Or got problem with BNM?
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Dividend is calculated on a monthly rest. If your fund is inside for 6 months then, you will get 6 months dividend
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post Dec 23 2021, 10:17 AM

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5%
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post Jan 1 2022, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(privatequity @ Dec 30 2021, 11:02 AM)
Hi everyone,

Can I know what are the best ways for Chinese to buy fixed price funds on Amanah unit trust now? Thanks.
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Keep fishing while multitasking with your day job.

It's not that hard actually.
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post Mar 2 2022, 09:59 AM

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Online withdrawal increased to 2k now
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post Mar 30 2022, 02:02 PM

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4% not really worth it IMO. Need to fish so hard ssomemore. Comparatively KDI Save is offering 3%, can invest anytime.
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post Mar 30 2022, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(melondance @ Mar 30 2022, 02:04 PM)
If its easy to invest like other platforms, sure... But many dont have the time to fish hardcore. I would have withdrawn my liquid funds from MMF to ASNB if that were the case...
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Yes, one thing to take note is the availability of unit.

Once sold, need to start finishing again.
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post Mar 30 2022, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(coolguy_0925 @ Mar 30 2022, 11:32 PM)
Really disappointed stagnent vs worst time but what to do

No choice unless willing to give up liquidity or take up more risk

Anyway, benchmarking against FD is really not a reflective KPI
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QUOTE(TOS @ Mar 30 2022, 11:34 PM)
Good observation! biggrin.gif The underlying assets are a lot riskier than FD. So benchmarking against FD is not the right thing to do in first place.
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But ASM will never go negative, which makes it as good as FD?
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post Mar 31 2022, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Mar 30 2022, 11:59 PM)
Never? No one has ever observed the true NAV (except the fund managers). The fixed RM 1 NAV number is an illusion on paper. Stocks and bonds price change whenever markets are open.

Think about it, during March 2020 with stocks going down and bonds sold off, how can the NAV remain at 1 MYR around that period? If every unit holders were to withdraw money around that period, ASNB would not be able to pay out all your capital in full. Your RM 1 becomes RM 0.8 or RM 0.9 for example. Most likely they will look for help from PNB's "upper-level" proprietary fund to top-up.

The key message is the true NAV fluctuates behind. (Also, your FD is insured. ASNB funds are not.) Stocks and bonds != FD.
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That is why ASM is known as God fund la.

Still, back to the question has ASM ever given negative return? If no, then it is as good as bank FDs with higher return.
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QUOTE(TOS @ Mar 31 2022, 12:19 AM)
Illustration on paper makes you think it's God. sweat.gif (nothing magic, man, it's actually "cheating". Like private equity funds advertising their low volatility but in reality is because they don't mark to market their portfolio during sell-downs...)

Anyway, the best advice I can give you is to scrutinize its holdings often. Don't hesitate to email asnbcare to request for the full list of the investment portfolio. You can sometimes learn from their portfolio allocations for your own good.
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Well the same goes to EPF, ASB and other ASNB fixed price funds.

It's totally disconnected with the real market, and it is politically motivated.

Why study the holdings when you know ASB will always be higher than ASM?
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post Apr 1 2022, 09:47 AM

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Can start finishing now ka?
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post Apr 5 2022, 06:35 PM

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QUOTE(popice2u @ Apr 5 2022, 06:20 PM)
many complained say asm dividend low bla bla bla......but still hold on
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As long as it is higher than FD and normal MMF rates, people will still hold on to it.

People complain but deep down they can't find replacement currently
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post Apr 21 2022, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(adam1190 @ Apr 21 2022, 11:15 AM)
Do we get the money instantly or? Thanks smile.gif
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Not instantly. 1-2 days gap

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