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 Ultimate Discussions of ASNB Fixed Price UT, Magical UT only in Malaysia

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post Dec 15 2024, 12:15 AM

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QUOTE(MattSally @ Dec 14 2024, 03:44 PM)
Another 5 years of steady 0.25% increments each year will suit me just fine.
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Uncle Trump is coming to town next month

So... just be prepared for winter
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post Dec 15 2024, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(cklimm @ Dec 15 2024, 05:21 PM)
dia pernah datang, we are still alive.
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the difference is

the last time he came ASM was still at above 6% div and now is below 5%

so when he came it dropped to 6% and slowly lower than that of course coupled with other reasons

now 4.75% and people hoping for 5% next year, so just be prepared lah
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post Dec 17 2024, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Dec 17 2024, 07:57 PM)
You got read all those socmed post / reply on ASNB page...

All hoping for 7% or 8% dividend rates yo....

And we all here just hoping around 5.5 to 6 only 😁
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Need to be realistic rather than like visiting a wishing well

That's all I can say
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post Dec 17 2024, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Dec 17 2024, 09:55 PM)
Logically speaking...

With the size of ASB1... Kinda hard to swing higher... And with it's very high liquidity nature (compared with ASM which majority keep until died - don't want to withdraw)....
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The ASM funds also getting bigger in fund size

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post Dec 17 2024, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Dec 17 2024, 10:11 PM)
Yeah... All fixed price funds growing....

But the single biggest is always ASB1 for years to come 🔥💪

Remember the investment concepts..... The bigger the fund size, the harder to generate high income.... Next next best example is EPF Conv & Sh... One big one smaller...
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True

Unless huge % of the fund getting good return

Otherwise, sure dividend got diluted
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post Dec 19 2024, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Dec 19 2024, 10:13 PM)
Remember what happens to EPF fiasco earlier of the year??

All so called analyst saying higher dividend rates....

BUT in the end... Still higher but not as high expected 😔
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This one smart

I scanned thru

Only mentioned will be higher than last year but never mentioned figure

Basically, all indexes vs last year also up just like what was reported

No need ekonomist also know will be higher loh grin.gif
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post Dec 23 2024, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Dec 22 2024, 10:30 AM)
KADAR dividen Amanah Saham Bumiputera (ASB) bagi tahun kewangan berakhir 31 Disember 2024 dijangka sekitar 5.1 hingga 5.4 peratus, disokong oleh prestasi pasaran saham domestik yang positif tahun ini.

Link:
https://www.utusan.com.my/ekonomi/2024/12/d...ing-tahun-lalu/

Basically ASB dividend expected to be around 5.1% to 5.4% range...

Within some of lowyat forum members target... 🙏
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If include bonus then can reach 5.5%, not bad mah
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post Dec 23 2024, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Dec 23 2024, 10:48 PM)
Hmm...
If you read the news..

The 5.4% including bonus 😁

But if indeed 5.5%
Then many would be very happy
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if all in less than 5.5% really lousy performance

market so hot not even additional .25%

if so then ASM can stop hoping good return
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post Dec 24 2024, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Dec 24 2024, 09:05 AM)
Maybe got make some investment "write down" somewhere... So in the end...

Effect on the dividend rates overall 😁
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ok result is out

analyst or ekonomist tembak salah lagi

and MattSally rejoice
wait for ours 3 months later
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post Dec 24 2024, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Dec 24 2024, 07:51 PM)
Previously the bonus is based on first 10k only... Later increase to first 30k

Now seems all balance get that bonus 🙏

And what I know
The bonus is from parent PNB while that 5.5% is from purely fund performance
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One thing that was not available in the press release

Total income (or I missed it)

Only mentioned total distribution RM10.1b

So until then we won't know got 'topup' or not
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post Dec 24 2024, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Dec 24 2024, 08:16 PM)
I keep searching

Cannot find any information about that part...

Which is which the income comes from...
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post Dec 24 2024, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Dec 24 2024, 08:24 PM)
Anyway

I found something interesting over the net

https://www.reddit.com/r/malaysia/comments/...sb_asm_ahb_and/

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wah ini analysis sudah mo kasi pressure sama EPF Syariah grin.gif
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post Dec 25 2024, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(LMC80 @ Dec 25 2024, 12:12 PM)
Seems is hard to buy the ASMx now. Anyone managed to buy?
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today PH

no bank open for people to sell
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post Dec 25 2024, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(MattSally @ Dec 25 2024, 07:04 PM)
I saw that as actually being a good point. The 5.5% would appear to reflect fund performance whereas the 0.25% bonus is what PNB decided to give on top. This year, fund performance was so improved that a large bonus was not considered 'necessary.' It might, therefore, be a modest opportunity to restock fund reserves.
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One thing that is still not available

The total income for this year

Whether 5.5% is purely from 2024 income & higher than RM10.1b distribution then yes it improved and balance into reserves

Otherwise, it is just another round of digging to show higher number
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Dec 25 2024, 10:11 PM)
Maybe repeat of previous ASM 3 announcement.... After 1 week...  dividend paid & credited into unit holders account... ASNB release new Updated announcement on top of original one 😔
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Heh we can only wait

The info will be avai eventually, just how fast only grin.gif
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post Dec 30 2024, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Dec 30 2024, 11:14 PM)
So little left...

Meaning by Wednesday 1st
or 1st week of January....
Confirmed sold out 😁
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don't worry

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post Dec 30 2024, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Dec 30 2024, 11:20 PM)
You got see the annual report of ASM 3...

Around 2bil units nett sold +/-  (after deduct dividend payout & existing units being cancelled - withdraw by unit holders)...

Basically ASNB got 2bil $$$$ to be invested....

How much they actually can offer..??? Unless they're digging into the unsold bumi quota units....
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or get approval to increase fund size
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post Dec 31 2024, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Dec 30 2024, 11:53 PM)
Maybe.......

But I don't see such details in the annual report pdf

Or I missed it 🤔 😔
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I mean this is an option if they still want to do it in future

Since demand is there why not
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post Jan 16 2025, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jan 16 2025, 04:43 PM)
Thanks to rumours on Chinese media on Rates cuts...

So everyone is like rushing towards ASMx funds to locked their $$$ & get acceptable rates temporary 😁
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I thought I read it somewhere it will be the other way round to keep inflation in check once RON95 subsidy rationalisation is in place

Anyway, less withdrawal also indicates that people spending less
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post Jan 17 2025, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jan 17 2025, 08:48 AM)
ok ekonomist with their forecast again lets see how accurate it will be

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