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007SMH
post Jul 30 2022, 07:43 AM

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I recently bought a Revo Red visor from Shopee for my HJC C70 , The fittings not as perfect as the original and there's wind noises coming from the gaps when fully closed , and some lens distortion (slight lens flaring). Overall still okie , might need to add some thin noise insulation tapes to overcome the issues.

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post Jul 30 2022, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(persona93 @ Jul 29 2022, 10:08 PM)
Woweee so glad I’m reading this. At the point of trying my M helmet, I felt a little bit tight having difficulty talking. But the assistant was kind enough to assure me that it was a good fit after asking me to shake my head thumbup.gif
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I did the headshake test on the XL and that's where I confirm it fits the crown but oh my teeth ... sweat.gif
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post Jul 30 2022, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(007SMH @ Jul 30 2022, 07:43 AM)
I recently bought a Revo Red visor from Shopee for my HJC C70 , The fittings not as perfect as the original and there's wind noises coming from the gaps when fully closed , and some lens distortion (slight lens flaring). Overall still okie , might need to add some thin noise insulation tapes to overcome the issues.

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I haven't seen the real think yet, the C70 helmet (not my grandpa's C70).

Reading from specs sheet there is no mention of speaker pocket to install bluetooth,
but I see you have bluetooth installed.

How tight fit is it to slot the speaker in?
Mine is 40mm speaker.


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post Jul 30 2022, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(WH4CockcooBird @ Jul 29 2022, 07:56 PM)
I fully understood the sizing part.

Crown size fit tightly, but the cheek pads are overly tight to a point my wisdom tooth on both sides felt like gonna be squeezed out of the gum after putting on for 10mins in the showroom.

Was thinking about changing to XXL cheek pad, but I needed to test the XXL helmet first and see if it's loose around the crown or fitting.

Will be visiting another shop tomorrow to check out their XXL CS-15.

No intention to splurge yet 'cos I am waiting for GT Air 2 stock to come in for the color I want. I am just not too sure if I really want a full face in the long run, hence testing out with budget one to start with. CS-15 looks right from budget and build perspective to be experimenting.
Appreciate your kind input.
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If the crown fits well, then you can get a size up for the cheek pad. At worst, you still have the ori cheek pads.

HJC publishes in detail all Thier sizing and padding sizes so you can confirm if it's just the cheek pads are different moving from size to size.

Some other helmets may actually have different EPS layer and others simply just don't test the larger helmets for 2XL and above. Generally most people will fit M or L.

Also if you have a round head, you might need to look for a helmet that is round and not an intermediate oval (narrower on the sides) like most HJC helmets.
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post Jul 30 2022, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(007SMH @ Jul 30 2022, 07:43 AM)
I recently bought a Revo Red visor from Shopee for my HJC C70 , The fittings not as perfect as the original and there's wind noises coming from the gaps when fully closed , and some lens distortion (slight lens flaring). Overall still okie , might need to add some thin noise insulation tapes to overcome the issues.

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This looks like the clear Revo red. I have as well, too much internal reflection to the point of unusabke at night.

The dark tinted Revo red is ok though.
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post Jul 30 2022, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(WH4CockcooBird @ Jul 30 2022, 09:28 AM)
I haven't seen the real think yet, the C70 helmet (not my grandpa's C70).

Reading from specs sheet there is no mention of speaker pocket to install bluetooth,
but I see you have bluetooth installed.

How tight fit is it to slot the speaker in?
Mine is 40mm speaker.
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I'm using Cardo Spirit using 32mm speakers , yes there's no dedicated space for bluetooth system but still quite comfortable. i guess 40mm shouldn't be a problem.
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post Jul 30 2022, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(007SMH @ Jul 30 2022, 07:43 AM)
I recently bought a Revo Red visor from Shopee for my HJC C70 , The fittings not as perfect as the original and there's wind noises coming from the gaps when fully closed , and some lens distortion (slight lens flaring). Overall still okie , might need to add some thin noise insulation tapes to overcome the issues.

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ooo thanks for the feedback

mind sharing which shop biggrin.gif
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post Jul 30 2022, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(persona93 @ Jul 30 2022, 11:30 AM)
ooo thanks for the feedback

mind sharing which shop  biggrin.gif
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https://shopee.com.my/taiwanbici.my
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post Jul 30 2022, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Jul 30 2022, 10:49 AM)
This looks like the clear Revo red. I have as well, too much internal reflection to the point of unusabke at night.

The dark tinted Revo red is ok though.
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Yes clear revo red , test it out since its just Rm37. I did a night ride only today will find out how it fare during daytime riding
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post Jul 30 2022, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Jul 30 2022, 10:44 AM)
If the crown fits well, then you can get a size up for the cheek pad. At worst, you still have the ori cheek pads.

HJC publishes in detail all Thier sizing and padding sizes so you can confirm if it's just the cheek pads are different moving from size to size.

Some other helmets may actually have different EPS layer and others simply just don't test the larger helmets for 2XL and above. Generally most people will fit M or L.

Also if you have a round head, you might need to look for a helmet that is round and not an intermediate oval (narrower on the sides) like most HJC helmets.
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Thanks dude for the great input.

As a bike noob myself despite my unker age group, I had spend a lot of time trying out helmets, wasted some money on some but I called it education fees.

Biggest issue is my glasses, other than my big head.

Most helmet that fits me properly, I am unable to insert my glasses.

So ended up paying for one open face Shoei that fits really well and able to let me insert my glasses.

Since then I had “upgraded” my glasses, this time around it seems like I hit the jackpot with the frame, I am able to insert into many helmets.

Going to check out XXL HKC later
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post Jul 30 2022, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(WH4CockcooBird @ Jul 30 2022, 02:07 PM)
Thanks dude for the great input.

As a bike noob myself despite my unker age group, I had spend a lot of time trying out helmets, wasted some money on some but I called it education fees.

Biggest issue is my glasses, other than my big head.

Most helmet that fits me properly, I am unable to insert my glasses.

So ended up paying for one open face Shoei that fits really well and able to let me insert my glasses.

Since then I had “upgraded” my glasses, this time around it seems like I hit the jackpot with the frame, I am able to insert into many helmets.

Going to check out XXL HKC later
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Look for helmets with dedicated eyeglass channels...although you might have to shop at the premium end of the scale. Good luck.
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post Jul 30 2022, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Jul 30 2022, 03:48 PM)
Look for helmets with dedicated eyeglass channels...although you might have to shop at the premium end of the scale. Good luck.
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Gone checking.

That shop really a lot of hoccus poccus lazy salesman when asked if they have XL or XXL for CS-15, they say don't have but keep pushing me to try more expensive variant.

Since I am already there, so tested a few different model and turn back asking for CS-15.

Another guy more helpful, found an XL one but not XXL for me to test.

Second time testing XL CS-15, this time, my specs refused to go in. doh.gif

Walk out empty handed.

Looks like I might just go for GT Air 2 size L which I have tested and fits properly, can slide in my specs with ease too.
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QUOTE(WH4CockcooBird @ Jul 30 2022, 09:56 PM)
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FYI I’m wearing specs also bro, and I’m using cS15, need to really sumbat the specs in and then push down so that it rests on my ears

Pondering on contacts dy, but not because of riding. But with this helmet issue, I just might go contacts

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post Jul 30 2022, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(WH4CockcooBird @ Jul 30 2022, 09:56 PM)
Gone checking.

That shop really a lot of hoccus poccus lazy salesman when asked if they have XL or XXL for CS-15, they say don't have but keep pushing me to try more expensive variant.

Since I am already there, so tested a few different model and turn back asking for CS-15.

Another guy more helpful, found an XL one but not XXL for me to test.

Second time testing XL CS-15, this time, my specs refused to go in.  doh.gif

Walk out empty handed.

Looks like I might just go for GT Air 2 size L which I have tested and fits properly, can slide in my specs with ease too.
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I think you might be dealing with a headshape issue more than helmet sizing. I find it odd not being able to fit an XL helmet but can fit a L size Shoei.... Ironically the GT Air 2 is also an intermediate oval like the CS15.

How much are you getting the GT Air 2 for? That's a huge step up from the CS15
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post Jul 31 2022, 08:42 AM

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QUOTE(WH4CockcooBird @ Jul 30 2022, 09:56 PM)
Gone checking.

That shop really a lot of hoccus poccus lazy salesman when asked if they have XL or XXL for CS-15, they say don't have but keep pushing me to try more expensive variant.

Since I am already there, so tested a few different model and turn back asking for CS-15.

Another guy more helpful, found an XL one but not XXL for me to test.

Second time testing XL CS-15, this time, my specs refused to go in.  doh.gif

Walk out empty handed.

Looks like I might just go for GT Air 2 size L which I have tested and fits properly, can slide in my specs with ease too.
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Have you tried HJC C70 ? Cuz i did try using my specs and i find it quite easy to slip inside and use.
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post Jul 31 2022, 08:43 AM

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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Jul 30 2022, 10:32 PM)
I think you might be dealing with a headshape issue more than helmet sizing. I find it odd not being able to fit an XL helmet but can fit a L size Shoei.... Ironically the GT Air 2 is also an intermediate oval like the CS15.

How much are you getting the GT Air 2 for? That's a huge step up from the CS15
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Yes. Definitely is head shape + glasses issue combined.

My first helmet is a Magnum. Bought for learning bike.
It's loose and able to accommodate my head, specs and sun glasses.

Then a half helmet, quite squishy on crown but I have no issue with my glasses.
Just can't install intercom on this one.

3rd one, KHI open face, XXL. Loose, but able to let me wear with my glasses on, not inserting glasses after wearing.
This one is noisy as )(#*), at 60km I can't hear my intercom anymore.

Gone serious hunting for helmet since then, tried many brands / model over many shops.
Price range from RM250 to RM6000.
With design mentioning "glasses friendly".
All failed to take in my glasses while having a good fit, except Shoei.

Need to special mention GoMoto, Gene Advance and Takong Racing.
GoMoto (Shoei) measured my head and provided the first guidance for me on how to fit a helmet.
Gene Advance's boss taught me glasses should not rest on ear, and first timer's mistake about feeling uncomfortable to squeeze into the right fitting helmet, how helmet should stick with your head when you are shaking your head.
Takong's girl taught me how to check the gap of fitting around forehead and un-bias opinion on which helmet fits me, pro / cons of each helmet I inquired about.

The famous shop at Serdang, boss patiently took the trouble to bring out I think nearly different ones for me to try and all failed at me unable to insert my glasses.

Other shops were just pushing me helmets without guidance, only guide me to spend more even if it does not fit.

So ended up getting a Shoei open face as my first proper helmet.
All because of my glasses.

Not convinced about that, I took advise from some senior bikers and gone make 2 different glasses with straight frame.
One actually easier to insert into helmet, it's the one I am wearing now to go testing helmet.
Easier but still kinda hit and miss with non-Shoei helmet with my glasses. doh.gif

Fast forward till today, after some serious riding trip, I have decided to give full face a try.
Hence the hunt for helmet starts all over again, trying not to just buy another Shoei, and to make sure I can stand wearing a full face for a long trip.
Since have a new glasses that's more suitable with helmet, really want to try if I can go with cheaper helmet.
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post Jul 31 2022, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(persona93 @ Jul 30 2022, 10:28 PM)
FYI I’m wearing specs also bro, and I’m using cS15, need to really sumbat the specs in and then push down so that it rests on my ears

Pondering on contacts dy, but not because of riding. But with this helmet issue, I just might go contacts
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It's very tight when I first managed to sumbat my specs into XL CS-15.
Scared it will break my frame after few rides.
that's the first try at batu cave dealer.

Second try at old klang road dealer, can't even sumbat in despite all the help from nice HJC distributor rep there.



QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Jul 30 2022, 10:32 PM)
I think you might be dealing with a headshape issue more than helmet sizing. I find it odd not being able to fit an XL helmet but can fit a L size Shoei.... Ironically the GT Air 2 is also an intermediate oval like the CS15.

How much are you getting the GT Air 2 for? That's a huge step up from the CS15
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I am looking at GT Air 2 - plain white. This is RM2,350.
Any other design that's not plain is RM2,700



QUOTE(007SMH @ Jul 31 2022, 08:42 AM)
Have you tried HJC C70 ? Cuz i did try using my specs and i find it quite easy to slip inside and use.
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Not C70 but it's predecessor IS-17.
Yes, it does slip in easier.
Aktwali, I went out to get the C70 XL if it fits, but they say no more XL despite their website has quite a number of them. Also intrigued by it's trade in promotion.
Even brought my bluetooth kit planning to test install if C70 XL is available.

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post Jul 31 2022, 11:31 AM

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hjc is narrower than shoei, a fact.
shoei better for rounder head.
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post Jul 31 2022, 01:04 PM

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Second try at old klang road dealer, can't even sumbat in despite all the help from nice HJC distributor rep there.
I am looking at GT Air 2 - plain white. This is RM2,350.
Any other design that's not plain is RM2,700
Not C70 but it's predecessor IS-17.
Yes, it does slip in easier.
Aktwali, I went out to get the C70 XL if it fits, but they say no more XL despite their website has quite a number of them. Also intrigued by it's trade in promotion.
Even brought my bluetooth kit planning to test install if C70 XL is available.
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I'm using L size eventhough their sizing chart recommends M size , can't fit at all.
I'm using Cardo Spirit in my C70 helmet , so far no issue even without a dedicated intercom speak port
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bell broozer looks more gaya

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