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SUSskyblu3
post Jun 9 2022, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(Voopoo @ Jun 9 2022, 12:44 PM)
it is normal for the cheek bones to start hurting after riding for 90 mins or so with a helmet?? i dont feel the helmet pressing on my cheeks hard when i put on the the helmet.
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post Jun 9 2022, 01:08 PM

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I wonder how u guys wear earplugs until becomes louder than other helmets?
I'm using foam type, and rolled, and pressed deep into ear canal. Almost no sound comes through.
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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Jun 9 2022, 11:34 AM)
On your next ride.
Try this
While riding, bring your shoulders up ... High enough to cover the lower opening of your helmet.
If the noise gets muffled .  There's the problem.  Cheek and side paddings too thin?
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hahaha, I do this also
my helmets are getting turbulence from slightly towards the back
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QUOTE(Voopoo @ Jun 9 2022, 12:44 PM)
it is normal for the cheek bones to start hurting after riding for 90 mins or so with a helmet?? i dont feel the helmet pressing on my cheeks hard when i put on the the helmet.
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Is not the pressure, but do u bite/grit teeth as you wear the helmet? maybe indirectly trying to push the cheekpad forward


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post Jun 9 2022, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Jun 9 2022, 01:08 PM)
I wonder how u guys wear earplugs until becomes louder than other helmets?
I'm using foam type, and rolled, and pressed deep into ear canal. Almost no sound comes through.
I've tried putting on this type of eat plugs while riding.
But I find the pressure build up in my ears is uncomfortable and too quiet. I still prefer to still able to hear traffic noise.

Few months ago I almost got rammed from behind by a car when I was slowing to stop at the traffic lights, the lights just turned red. If not of the car's tyre screeching , I wouldn't had accelerate more to the front to avoid him ramming into my rear tyres.
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post Jun 9 2022, 02:12 PM

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post Jun 9 2022, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Jun 9 2022, 02:10 PM)
I've tried putting on this type of eat plugs while riding.
But I find the pressure build up in my ears is uncomfortable and too quiet.  I still prefer to still able to hear traffic noise.

Few months ago I almost got rammed from behind by a car when I was slowing to stop at the traffic lights, the lights just turned red.    If not of the car's tyre screeching , I wouldn't had accelerate more to the front to avoid him ramming into my rear tyres.
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Oh, I don't mean to recommend this to everyone. I just wondering how come those wear earplugs still hear so much noise.
I was desperate once for leaving earplugs at home use moist tissue also good enough for me.

I suppose if too much noise reduction, can cut off a bit to increase a bit. Also got one type is acoustic earplug.

The neckroll thing I think is good, just haven't go and buy to try.
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post Jun 9 2022, 04:15 PM

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That neckroll can be hot.

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post Jun 9 2022, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Jun 9 2022, 01:08 PM)
I wonder how u guys wear earplugs until becomes louder than other helmets?
I'm using foam type, and rolled, and pressed deep into ear canal. Almost no sound comes through.
Use the same foam type.. Just a simple comparison really -> put earplugs in -> ride with Helmet A -> stop change to helmet B -> note the difference..

That's basically it. In any case I ride with an earplug almost exclusively, so when a helmet is noisier, its noticeable.
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post Jun 10 2022, 08:07 AM

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QUOTE(mdziaf @ Jun 9 2022, 10:21 PM)
Use the same foam type.. Just a simple comparison really -> put earplugs in -> ride with Helmet A -> stop change to helmet B -> note the difference..

That's basically it. In any case I ride with an earplug almost exclusively, so when a helmet is noisier, its noticeable.
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Oh, I get it now. I wondered becoz someone mentioned a helmet is quieter without earplugs than another with earplugs. I've not tried many helmets, so...

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post Jun 10 2022, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(mdziaf @ Jun 7 2022, 05:22 PM)
Just bought an LS2 Valiant II helmet.. sigh its too noisy even with earplugs.. anyone else have this helmet and have similar experience?

At 80 the wind noise is like me riding 120 with a cheapo MHR modular helmet..
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My Ls2 Metro wind noise very loud going in from the hole of the sunvisor switch.. I taped the hole and can feel noticeable difference..
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post Jun 10 2022, 07:54 PM

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guys, newbiw question, but at what speed is a helmet consider noisy? I mean like for a full face helmet, at what speed do you really notice there's wind noise?
I've just got a B full license, looking to buy a 2nd hand bike
Only got open face helmet for the exam and riding speed in the school is less than 40km.. Can't really hear any significant wind noise comparing to a riding a bicycle cuz the speed is so slow
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post Jun 10 2022, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(technosakai @ Jun 10 2022, 07:54 PM)
guys, newbiw question, but at what speed is a helmet consider noisy? I mean like for a full face helmet, at what speed do you really notice there's wind noise?
I've just got a B full license, looking to buy a 2nd hand bike
Only got open face helmet for the exam and riding speed in the school is less than 40km.. Can't really hear any significant wind noise comparing to a riding a bicycle cuz the speed is so slow
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Depends on the range of that helmet

My case. I have one cheaper helmet, hjc is17. Even at 100kmh it's not quiet ( I won't say it's noisy). Wind noise is there.

And I have another more expensive helmet which is consider top of the line from hjc, rpha70. It's consider quiet even at 130kmh. So when I'm doing the usually speed I normally do at around 100kmh 110kmh. It's quiet. Minimal wind noise.




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post Jun 12 2022, 09:04 PM

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Just see the padding around the ear, if is fully encircling the ear, then much quieter, but if multiple pieces join together and have gap leading to the ear, then will be noisy, sources of noise are air turbulence from the front, or the body drafted upwards
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post Jun 13 2022, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Jun 10 2022, 08:29 PM)
Depends on the range of that helmet

My case.  I have one cheaper helmet, hjc is17.  Even at 100kmh it's not quiet ( I won't say it's noisy).  Wind noise is there.

And I have another more expensive helmet  which is consider top of the line from hjc, rpha70.  It's consider quiet even at 130kmh.  So when I'm doing the usually speed I normally do at around 100kmh 110kmh.  It's quiet.  Minimal wind noise.
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long term slight wind noise will still damage hearing right? Like your HJC IS17, slight wind noise, but over a long period will it still damage hearing?
and how often do you guys here wear earplugs?
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post Jun 13 2022, 10:38 AM

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weekend rides I plug, becoz kawan2 all big CC with loud pipes
I need earplugs becoz I always overtake them cannot tahan the noise
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post Jun 13 2022, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(technosakai @ Jun 13 2022, 09:25 AM)
long term slight wind noise will still damage hearing right? Like your HJC IS17, slight wind noise, but over a long period will it still damage hearing?
and how often do you guys here wear earplugs?
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It depends on how loud the wind noise.
Faster you go the louder it gets

Good thing is that I hardly ride at high speed.

On the highway 120kmh is good enough.

I tried wearing ear plugs , but stopped . The pressure build up in my ears is not comfy . And it's too quiet in which I don't really like, felt dangerous.
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post Jun 13 2022, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Jun 13 2022, 10:57 AM)
It depends on how loud the wind noise.
Faster you go the louder it gets

Good thing is that I hardly ride at high speed.

On the highway 120kmh is good enough.

I tried wearing ear plugs , but stopped .  The pressure build up in my ears is not comfy .  And it's too quiet in which I don't really like, felt dangerous.
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I'm thinking of maybe wearing earphones when I ride.
since it's always connected to bluetooth, can listen to songs/navigation.. also quite sound proof so kinda works the same as an earplug i guess? Not say fully block everything out but then like you said, if too quiet, it seems very weird
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post Jun 13 2022, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(technosakai @ Jun 13 2022, 03:23 PM)
I'm thinking of maybe wearing earphones when I ride.
since it's always connected to bluetooth, can listen to songs/navigation.. also quite sound proof so kinda works the same as an earplug i guess? Not say fully block everything out but then like you said, if too quiet, it seems very weird
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Somehow you need to be able to hear your surrounding.

Last month as I shared I was almost got rammed from behind by a car at junction. Good thing was that I heard his tyres screech and I moved forward.
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post Jun 13 2022, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(technosakai @ Jun 13 2022, 03:23 PM)
I'm thinking of maybe wearing earphones when I ride.
since it's always connected to bluetooth, can listen to songs/navigation.. also quite sound proof so kinda works the same as an earplug i guess? Not say fully block everything out but then like you said, if too quiet, it seems very weird
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got ppl do that with mibuds. my worry if something hit the side of the helmet, would it crush the earphones or earbuds into your ear?
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post Jun 13 2022, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Jun 13 2022, 03:40 PM)
Somehow you need to be able to hear your surrounding.

Last month as I shared I was almost got rammed from behind by a car at junction.  Good thing was that I heard his tyres screech and I moved forward.
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QUOTE(alexei @ Jun 13 2022, 03:41 PM)
got ppl do that with mibuds. my worry if something hit the side of the helmet, would it crush the earphones or earbuds into your ear?
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something to experiment on for this idea I guess..
I don't think the earphones will crush earphones unless it's a really tight fit and the impact is very strong.
Otherwise might just work.. hmm.gif
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post Jun 14 2022, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Jun 13 2022, 10:57 AM)
It depends on how loud the wind noise.
Faster you go the louder it gets

Good thing is that I hardly ride at high speed.

On the highway 120kmh is good enough.

I tried wearing ear plugs , but stopped .  The pressure build up in my ears is not comfy .  And it's too quiet in which I don't really like, felt dangerous.
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Maybe the plugs you use is too big hence the high pressure build up..

Anyways i would always suggest riding with an earplug. 92db exposure for 30 minutes is all it takes to get hearing loss. And 92db is not too far fatched to be exposed to while riding.

NB: higher dBs would take far less time to get hearing damage.

QUOTE(technosakai @ Jun 13 2022, 03:23 PM)
I'm thinking of maybe wearing earphones when I ride.
since it's always connected to bluetooth, can listen to songs/navigation.. also quite sound proof so kinda works the same as an earplug i guess? Not say fully block everything out but then like you said, if too quiet, it seems very weird
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Earphones dont block noise at all - even worse with active noise cancellation since it blasts the same noise that is at 180 degree phase. Which means your ears get exposed to the loud noise even more. If you want to hear songs and navigation a basic Cardo Spirit (<RM400) + earplugs would be the way to go.

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