Location : Direct behind First World Hotel
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Genting Sky City, Right behind First World Hotel
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But how about access?
Some says if uses road already like 2km away.. If direct straight cut cross. Then its 800m something.. They plan to built bridge? |
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WOW mixed development again !!!
As for now all existing mixed development project in Klang valley almost all not performing well |
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QUOTE(babygrand123 @ Nov 5 2019, 02:00 AM) WOW mixed development again !!! Not really all not performing la, there is some good project also. As for now all existing mixed development project in Klang valley almost all not performing well Some more this is at genting and so far should be the nearest to the entertainment hotspot. Others genting project also need shuttle bus to go around. |
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So it's BBB since it's the best non genting group related project.. and public can buy too 🤑
Near to the park too...vs others development... This post has been edited by nexona88: Nov 5 2019, 10:00 AM |
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Wow huge development. Later landslide all gone.
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Nov 5 2019, 10:02 AM) Same doubt here.. ic... i tot the entire hill owned by genting grp. wonder how they bring up the water and electricity etc.But according to news I heard.. they won't use all the land.. Some part very steep.. risky for high rise.. so they built not so steep land only... |
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QUOTE(mroys@lyn @ Nov 5 2019, 10:07 AM) ic... i tot the entire hill owned by genting grp. wonder how they bring up the water and electricity etc. Was thinking the same... Maybe part of the hill sold to someone connected with the state.. then resold back for $$.. possibilities is there...Not sure how they built.. but what I know it's won't be easy & fast... Like in KL 😑 |
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Just hope they built with proper foundation...
Genting today just landslide.... |
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QUOTE(Ckmwpy0370 @ Nov 5 2019, 10:16 PM) overdevelopment...seems like there's sudden interest on the hill... AK also join the club now... looks like Genting have lost many small plots of land to others developers... |
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Water and electricity supply will cost the developer enormous amount of money and time, may render this project financially unfeasible.
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This one the project was previously abandoned for a long time now they continue is it?
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Last time named Amber Court?
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Heard the hotel operator will be under Haxk Roxk Hotel.
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2kpsf, not ynh.
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Now selling rm2k psf, limited units left as big portion is enbloc sold to Chinese investors and targeted for singapore investor.
This is only the 1st block. The rest all not launch yet. Was at the site yesterday, the land areas looks smaller than what is described in the artistic visualisation. The so call linked bridge to first world is just a proposal, and seeing its actually to the back portion of first world hotel, not sure if it's doable / allowed by genting. This post has been edited by mytrader: Feb 9 2020, 10:30 AM |
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QUOTE(mytrader @ Feb 9 2020, 10:26 AM) Now selling rm2k psf, limited units left as big portion is enbloc sold to Chinese investors and targeted for singapore investor. As if chinese are allowed to invest in overseas property. unless kt lim family is vested in this project doubt link bridge to first world will be allowed.This is only the 1st block. The rest all not launch yet. Was at the site yesterday, the land areas looks smaller than what is described in the artistic visualisation. The so call linked bridge to first world is just a proposal, and seeing its actually to the back portion of first world hotel, not sure if it's doable / allowed by genting. This post has been edited by icemanfx: Feb 9 2020, 11:04 AM |
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Ya, i am doubtful of the linkage bridge.
The other comparable project in the same vicinity would be Ion Majestic (NCT Group) at a lower psf (~RM1300) price point. It's further inwards of the same road, but considering both will require transportation to get to Genting Resort, the distance might not be a key factor here. |
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Defrostation due to all this mixed development.
Later, Genting become hot like KL. Serve them right! |
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linkage bridge is the selling point I guess..
if don't happen the how? |
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Feb 10 2020, 01:18 PM) if no linked bridge, the distance to reach First World also just walk cross a road only. This is the only new project that public can buy and walkable to the Genting city. Except you interested in ria apartment, but that's also cost Rm1k psf already now. |
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QUOTE(onnying88 @ Feb 10 2020, 03:49 PM) if no linked bridge, the distance to reach First World also just walk cross a road only. Ria Apartment?This is the only new project that public can buy and walkable to the Genting city. Except you interested in ria apartment, but that's also cost Rm1k psf already now. huhuhuh.. that's one I already kena before.. really not walk-able Rm1k psf? for such old "condo" |
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QUOTE(onnying88 @ Feb 10 2020, 03:49 PM) if no linked bridge, the distance to reach First World also just walk cross a road only. Have you consider elevation difference?This is the only new project that public can buy and walkable to the Genting city. Except you interested in ria apartment, but that's also cost Rm1k psf already now. This post has been edited by icemanfx: Feb 10 2020, 06:14 PM |
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Feb 10 2020, 06:02 PM) A connecting bridge considers small potato if you look at the overall project construction scale. The problem do Genting allows them to build a connecting bridge or not only.Anyway, Did you all notice this is the only project so far that allow to use 'Genting' as their project name? They can get approval to use Genting name, so to get approval to build a link bridge should be no problem i think. My2cent. Maybe they get Genting consent letter or approval already for the bridge. Anyone plan to visit the sales gallery please help clarify? |
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Feb 10 2020, 06:00 PM) Ria Apartment? Consider walkable already lahuhuhuh.. that's one I already kena before.. really not walk-able Rm1k psf? for such old "condo" Yes, Rm1k+ PSF. link |
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Genting won't allow link bridge la. Where can allow other party to compete with their hotel.
U stay other developer project, u sendiri find your own transport to first world la. |
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QUOTE(onnying88 @ Feb 10 2020, 06:31 PM) A connecting bridge considers small potato if you look at the overall project construction scale. The problem do Genting allows them to build a connecting bridge or not only. Do you know how many hotels are planned at genting? Genting allow outsiders to sabotage their investment?Anyway, Did you all notice this is the only project so far that allow to use 'Genting' as their project name? They can get approval to use Genting name, so to get approval to build a link bridge should be no problem i think. My2cent. Maybe they get Genting consent letter or approval already for the bridge. Anyone plan to visit the sales gallery please help clarify? |
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QUOTE(onnying88 @ Feb 10 2020, 06:37 PM) ![]() https://www.edgeprop.my/content/1619896/new...nting-highlands This post has been edited by icemanfx: Feb 11 2020, 10:21 AM |
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QUOTE(sk2000 @ Feb 11 2020, 08:36 AM) Conveniently omitted number of hotels planned. Accomodation is provided for genting employees. Non genting employees are unlikely to rent overpriced poorperly.This post has been edited by icemanfx: Feb 11 2020, 10:32 AM |
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For non Genting employees was told most of the apartment units are converted into like 10 room per unit and charge on per room basic
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QUOTE(Asgaard @ Feb 10 2020, 07:45 PM) Genting won't allow link bridge la. Where can allow other party to compete with their hotel. No need bridge to first world, got walking bridge to the road behind the project also good enough alreadyU stay other developer project, u sendiri find your own transport to first world la. Their brochure mention 5min walk to major attraction. |
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5min walking distance is not possible.., the current phase is the back part , hence you will have to walk thru the front blocks even to get to the main road (next to first world). That would already take more than 5 min.
Even on the main road, there is no access currently to First World Hotel. Been to the sales office last weekend, the bridge is verbal and a sales pitch, if it's an agreement they already gotten from Genting, it would be clearly communicated as a sales pitch for sure.. Well, end of the day they will for sure offer free shuttle bus /van service from the hotel lobby, hence I don't see the bridge /walkable distance is a key issue here. Taking into account as well, if they hotel are majority occupied by tour groups/holiday goers, walkable or not is not a consideration (or even a known aspect) when they choose which hotel to stay at. This post has been edited by mytrader: Feb 11 2020, 04:37 PM |
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QUOTE(mytrader @ Feb 11 2020, 04:34 PM) 5min walking distance is not possible.., the current phase is the back part , hence you will have to walk thru the front blocks even to get to the main road (next to first world). That would already take more than 5 min. This place is marketed as Airbnb or residence?Even on the main road, there is no access currently to First World Hotel. Been to the sales office last weekend, the bridge is verbal and a sales pitch, if it's an agreement they already gotten from Genting, it would be clearly communicated as a sales pitch for sure.. Well, end of the day they will for sure offer free shuttle bus /van service from the hotel lobby, hence I don't see the bridge /walkable distance is a key issue here. Taking into account as well, if they hotel are majority occupied by tour groups/holiday goers, walkable or not is not a consideration (or even a known aspect) when they choose which hotel to stay at. |
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In the first phase , there will be 2 blocks, 1 block will be Haxd Roxk Hotel (as they claim la..) , the 2nd block will be sold and be lease back under a GRR scheme of 6.5% (3+3+3 Years).
There will be 8 more blocks in future phase, always as a twin setup above (1 Hotel + 1 block for sale). Seem to be relatively new developer, claim to be director for a PLC but doing this on a private setup as he owns the land privately. Construction and financing from China. Comparing this with Ion Majestic, I have a higher confidence in that (lower psf, confirmed hotel management by Wyndam group, proven track record of developer - NCT - Ion Delemen). Just my personal view... |
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Whoever interested better do more due diligence.
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QUOTE(mytrader @ Feb 11 2020, 05:39 PM) In the first phase , there will be 2 blocks, 1 block will be Haxd Roxk Hotel (as they claim la..) , the 2nd block will be sold and be lease back under a GRR scheme of 6.5% (3+3+3 Years). Chinese are allowed to invest in overseas property or development?There will be 8 more blocks in future phase, always as a twin setup above (1 Hotel + 1 block for sale). Seem to be relatively new developer, claim to be director for a PLC but doing this on a private setup as he owns the land privately. Construction and financing from China. Comparing this with Ion Majestic, I have a higher confidence in that (lower psf, confirmed hotel management by Wyndam group, proven track record of developer - NCT - Ion Delemen). Just my personal view... What is ion majestic occupancy and room rate? This post has been edited by icemanfx: Feb 11 2020, 06:18 PM |
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QUOTE(mytrader @ Feb 11 2020, 05:39 PM) In the first phase , there will be 2 blocks, 1 block will be Haxd Roxk Hotel (as they claim la..) , the 2nd block will be sold and be lease back under a GRR scheme of 6.5% (3+3+3 Years). But China Central Bank banned outflow of money for property related wor. So ini financing how jalan? There will be 8 more blocks in future phase, always as a twin setup above (1 Hotel + 1 block for sale). Seem to be relatively new developer, claim to be director for a PLC but doing this on a private setup as he owns the land privately. Construction and financing from China. Comparing this with Ion Majestic, I have a higher confidence in that (lower psf, confirmed hotel management by Wyndam group, proven track record of developer - NCT - Ion Delemen). Just my personal view... Back lane meh? |
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If failure..
Then sell the project to another party.. It's very strategic landbank.. I'm sure others would love to take over... |
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Feb 11 2020, 08:13 PM) If failure.. Not at the mercy of genting like amber court?Then sell the project to another party.. It's very strategic landbank.. I'm sure others would love to take over... Wonder where water supply will come from? This post has been edited by icemanfx: Feb 11 2020, 08:46 PM |
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Feb 11 2020, 06:18 PM) Chinese are allowed to invest in overseas property or development? To my knowledge they are allowed.. Our Malaysia limitation is the min. Threshold price.. Hence the developer here Jack's up the price so they qualify to purchase. Keep in mind, there is overseas indivual investor and cooperate investors. What is ion majestic occupancy and room rate? The completed project is ion delemen(ion majestic is under construction). Not sure of the actual occupancy, but before the corona virus issue.. Weekend is typically full.. And weekdays, studio units rates are around 250 to 300 per night (depending on which booking website or agency). I also took the chance to visit ion delemen last week, there were a few companies doing their team building / meetings there, hence the lobby area was actually overcrowded... Keeping in mind, ion delemen was actual the previous abandon project of billion Court, hence the first few floors of the lobby /building is not "high class", ie low ceiling, awkward parking etc... Ion majestic will be a ground up development, in a 5 Star hotel theme.... |
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Actual fact, Amber court was not at the mercy of genting.. It was an independent development, BUT back then, genting has a limited pull factor vs the supply, and Amber court was a residence / apartment project focusing on the usual long term rental.... Airbnb / Hotel management was not a thing back then.
Adding all this factor resulted in the demise of Amber court or any residential development in genting... Ie, ria apartment was also not successful back then.... Again, this are just my view... |
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QUOTE(mytrader @ Feb 11 2020, 11:11 PM) To my knowledge they are allowed.. Our Malaysia limitation is the min. Threshold price.. Hence the developer here Jack's up the price so they qualify to purchase. Keep in mind, there is overseas indivual investor and cooperate investors. The completed project is ion delemen(ion majestic is under construction). Not sure of the actual occupancy, but before the corona virus issue.. Weekend is typically full.. And weekdays, studio units rates are around 250 to 300 per night (depending on which booking website or agency). I also took the chance to visit ion delemen last week, there were a few companies doing their team building / meetings there, hence the lobby area was actually overcrowded... Keeping in mind, ion delemen was actual the previous abandon project of billion Court, hence the first few floors of the lobby /building is not "high class", ie low ceiling, awkward parking etc... Ion majestic will be a ground up development, in a 5 Star hotel theme.... QUOTE(David_77 @ Feb 11 2020, 06:52 PM) But China Central Bank banned outflow of money for property related wor. So ini financing how jalan? What is occupancy rate at ion delemen? 40%, 50%?Back lane meh? QUOTE(mytrader @ Feb 11 2020, 11:13 PM) Rumour is genting skycity does not have their own water source.. Option is to buy from genting or ion delemen / NCT group.. Guess you have no idea how valuable is water supply at genting Highlands.QUOTE(mytrader @ Feb 11 2020, 11:28 PM) Actual fact, Amber court was not at the mercy of genting.. It was an independent development, BUT back then, genting has a limited pull factor vs the supply, and Amber court was a residence / apartment project focusing on the usual long term rental.... Airbnb / Hotel management was not a thing back then. There was nothing to stop Airbnb or oyo to list amber court in the last few years.Adding all this factor resulted in the demise of Amber court or any residential development in genting... Ie, ria apartment was also not successful back then.... Again, this are just my view... This post has been edited by icemanfx: Feb 12 2020, 09:40 AM |
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Genting launched suit again this development on ground of impact to existing development and usage of "Genting" name as part of the project
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QUOTE(vinceleo @ Mar 2 2020, 09:49 AM) Genting launched suit again this development on ground of impact to existing development and usage of "Genting" name as part of the project Interesting.https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/gent...ky-city-project |
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QUOTE(vinceleo @ Mar 2 2020, 09:49 AM) Genting launched suit again this development on ground of impact to existing development and usage of "Genting" name as part of the project Wow just wow...https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/gent...ky-city-project |
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Mar 4 2020, 09:32 PM
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Mar 4 2020, 10:41 PM
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Mar 5 2020, 08:57 AM
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QUOTE(vinceleo @ Mar 2 2020, 09:49 AM) Genting launched suit again this development on ground of impact to existing development and usage of "Genting" name as part of the project If project not by Genting, I am misled by the naming of the project Genting Sky City.... Genting has a case...https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/gent...ky-city-project |
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Mar 6 2020, 10:29 PM
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QUOTE(aspartame @ Mar 5 2020, 08:57 AM) If project not by Genting, I am misled by the naming of the project Genting Sky City.... Genting has a case... They for sure do, Genting is a registered trademark and it's a misuse of trademark here without consent. Some more in their sales pitch they are promoting it with the link bridge to Genting / etc. and even a possibility of a casino extension . , I am very sure this will not happen now |
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Mar 6 2020, 10:33 PM
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QUOTE(mytrader @ Mar 6 2020, 10:29 PM) They for sure do, Genting is a registered trademark and it's a misuse of trademark here without consent. I don’t know how advanced the project is but Genting could have easily hurt them more if they waited for longer before challenging them....Some more in their sales pitch they are promoting it with the link bridge to Genting / etc. and even a possibility of a casino extension . , I am very sure this will not happen now |
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Mar 7 2020, 06:28 AM
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QUOTE(mytrader @ Mar 6 2020, 10:29 PM) They for sure do, Genting is a registered trademark and it's a misuse of trademark here without consent. Unless lkt family has vested interest else snake oil seller sales pitch.Some more in their sales pitch they are promoting it with the link bridge to Genting / etc. and even a possibility of a casino extension . , I am very sure this will not happen now |
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Mar 7 2020, 04:23 PM
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Mar 7 2020, 04:23 PM
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Mar 7 2020, 06:19 PM
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even a possibility of a casino extension??
hahahahah... really pity if anyone actually falls for this trap sales pitch |
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Mar 2 2021, 07:45 AM
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QUOTE(destiny6 @ Dec 23 2019, 02:55 PM) Not sure , I want to know also, should be new developer since the project was previously abandon like dunno how many years , feels like it's haunted when passby there at night Last part of this Video is about the history of the project before genting sky city: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Rf7xNOGwAY |
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Mar 3 2021, 08:23 AM
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QUOTE(126Edward @ Mar 2 2021, 08:45 AM) Last part of this Video is about the history of the project before genting sky city: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Rf7xNOGwAY Thx. It is very informative. |
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Mar 3 2021, 03:42 PM
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QUOTE(126Edward @ Mar 2 2021, 07:45 AM) Last part of this Video is about the history of the project before genting sky city: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Rf7xNOGwAY Wow thanks alot. |
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Mar 4 2021, 11:37 AM
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Mar 4 2021, 11:39 AM
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I am glad I could help
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Oct 15 2021, 11:14 PM
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This project still jalan?
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Oct 15 2021, 11:39 PM
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Oct 15 2021, 11:41 PM
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QUOTE(mytrader @ Feb 11 2020, 11:28 PM) Actual fact, Amber court was not at the mercy of genting.. It was an independent development, BUT back then, genting has a limited pull factor vs the supply, and Amber court was a residence / apartment project focusing on the usual long term rental.... Airbnb / Hotel management was not a thing back then. Ria apartment is owned by genting beforeAdding all this factor resulted in the demise of Amber court or any residential development in genting... Ie, ria apartment was also not successful back then.... Again, this are just my view... I have a old public phone card... Genting picture on behind and 5 hotels name 2000 year malaysia still have such kind of card |
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Jun 3 2022, 12:32 AM
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