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post Sep 12 2023, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(Izington @ Sep 12 2023, 04:58 PM)
Innalillahiwainnailaihirojiun to Raymond Goh of TV3, after passing away due to complications of stroke. We lost another golden voice! Will miss his voice in Nightline's sad.gif
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Innalillah to his family. I grew up with his voice.

Edit: Never knew he converted

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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Sep 12 2023, 05:28 PM)
Innalillah to his family. I grew up with his voice.

Edit: Never knew he converted
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Because still use the original name

Unlike some people...

Straight use Mohd xxxx Abdullah... father / family name all missing...

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QUOTE(Izington @ Sep 12 2023, 04:58 PM)
Innalillahiwainnailaihirojiun to Raymond Goh of TV3, after passing away due to complications of stroke. We lost another golden voice! Will miss his voice in Nightline's sad.gif
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yes we so miss voice he so best host TV3 Nightline i can understand la
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QUOTE(Izington @ Sep 12 2023, 04:58 PM)
Innalillahiwainnailaihirojiun to Raymond Goh of TV3, after passing away due to complications of stroke. We lost another golden voice! Will miss his voice in Nightline's sad.gif
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Innalillah , we will miss him a lot innocent.gif
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post Sep 18 2023, 10:15 PM

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Change topic a while... This is more related to FM radio broadcasts.

Sarawak and Sabah version of Hitz FM and MY FM will cease and to be migrated to the same version as Peninsular Malaysia.
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For those who don't know, if you tune to Hitz FM, Era FM or MY FM radio station in Sarawak and Sabah, some of the radio programming, radio announcers and also advertisements are completely different compared to the Hitz FM, Era FM or MY FM version that you listen in Peninsular Malaysia. The 3 radio stations mentioned has been broadcasting in localised feed since 2010, and this is about to change effective 1 October 2023.

In case you still don't understand, from 1 October 2023 onwards:
- Hitz FM and MY FM transmission in Sarawak and Sabah, will revert back to the same radio feed as Peninsular Malaysia today.
- Whatever you listen on Hitz FM and MY FM stations via FM radio transmissions within Peninsular Malaysia today, and then you fly to Sarawak/Sabah and tune to Hitz FM and MY FM transmission there, it will be the same version as what you listen back in Peninsular Malaysia.
- No more Sarawak/Sabah-based radio announcers, radio programming and localised advertisements thereafter.

Why, you ask?
In the screenshot above, it mentions "in line with Astro Radio's transformation."
To me, it suggests that it is either they want to cut cost, or it is not making money, or both.

However, Era FM is not affected, and it will still continue its localised feed broadcast in Sarawak and Sabah just like today.
Maybe because localised Era FM versions in Sarawak and Sabah is making enough money. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(joshhd @ Sep 18 2023, 10:15 PM)
Change topic a while... This is more related to FM radio broadcasts.

Sarawak and Sabah version of Hitz FM and MY FM will cease and to be migrated to the same version as Peninsular Malaysia.
user posted image
For those who don't know, if you tune to Hitz FM, Era FM or MY FM radio station in Sarawak and Sabah, some of the radio programming, radio announcers and also advertisements are completely different compared to the Hitz FM, Era FM or MY FM version that you listen in Peninsular Malaysia. The 3 radio stations mentioned has been broadcasting in localised feed since 2010, and this is about to change effective 1 October 2023.

In case you still don't understand, from 1 October 2023 onwards:
- Hitz FM and MY FM transmission in Sarawak and Sabah, will revert back to the same radio feed as Peninsular Malaysia today.
- Whatever you listen on Hitz FM and MY FM stations via FM radio transmissions within Peninsular Malaysia today, and then you fly to Sarawak/Sabah and tune to Hitz FM and MY FM transmission there, it will be the same version as what you listen back in Peninsular Malaysia.
- No more Sarawak/Sabah-based radio announcers, radio programming and localised advertisements thereafter.

Why, you ask?
In the screenshot above, it mentions "in line with Astro Radio's transformation."
To me, it suggests that it is either they want to cut cost, or it is not making money, or both.

However, Era FM is not affected, and it will still continue its localised feed broadcast in Sarawak and Sabah just like today.
Maybe because localised Era FM versions in Sarawak and Sabah is making enough money.  sweat.gif
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post Sep 19 2023, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(joshhd @ Sep 18 2023, 10:15 PM)
Change topic a while... This is more related to FM radio broadcasts.

Sarawak and Sabah version of Hitz FM and MY FM will cease and to be migrated to the same version as Peninsular Malaysia.
user posted image
For those who don't know, if you tune to Hitz FM, Era FM or MY FM radio station in Sarawak and Sabah, some of the radio programming, radio announcers and also advertisements are completely different compared to the Hitz FM, Era FM or MY FM version that you listen in Peninsular Malaysia. The 3 radio stations mentioned has been broadcasting in localised feed since 2010, and this is about to change effective 1 October 2023.

In case you still don't understand, from 1 October 2023 onwards:
- Hitz FM and MY FM transmission in Sarawak and Sabah, will revert back to the same radio feed as Peninsular Malaysia today.
- Whatever you listen on Hitz FM and MY FM stations via FM radio transmissions within Peninsular Malaysia today, and then you fly to Sarawak/Sabah and tune to Hitz FM and MY FM transmission there, it will be the same version as what you listen back in Peninsular Malaysia.
- No more Sarawak/Sabah-based radio announcers, radio programming and localised advertisements thereafter.

Why, you ask?
In the screenshot above, it mentions "in line with Astro Radio's transformation."
To me, it suggests that it is either they want to cut cost, or it is not making money, or both.

However, Era FM is not affected, and it will still continue its localised feed broadcast in Sarawak and Sabah just like today.
Maybe because localised Era FM versions in Sarawak and Sabah is making enough money.  sweat.gif
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If the listenership for MY/Hitz FM in Sabah and Sarawak is very good - Astro will probably make both stations gone 100% local - rather than local on certain periods (and national breakfast).

Era Sabah/Sarawak had gone 100% local a few years before, and it has proven that the formula (for ERA) is very popular/liked by listeners - hence the decision to keep it local.

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QUOTE(joshhd @ Sep 18 2023, 10:15 PM)
Change topic a while... This is more related to FM radio broadcasts.

Sarawak and Sabah version of Hitz FM and MY FM will cease and to be migrated to the same version as Peninsular Malaysia.
user posted image
For those who don't know, if you tune to Hitz FM, Era FM or MY FM radio station in Sarawak and Sabah, some of the radio programming, radio announcers and also advertisements are completely different compared to the Hitz FM, Era FM or MY FM version that you listen in Peninsular Malaysia. The 3 radio stations mentioned has been broadcasting in localised feed since 2010, and this is about to change effective 1 October 2023.

In case you still don't understand, from 1 October 2023 onwards:
- Hitz FM and MY FM transmission in Sarawak and Sabah, will revert back to the same radio feed as Peninsular Malaysia today.
- Whatever you listen on Hitz FM and MY FM stations via FM radio transmissions within Peninsular Malaysia today, and then you fly to Sarawak/Sabah and tune to Hitz FM and MY FM transmission there, it will be the same version as what you listen back in Peninsular Malaysia.
- No more Sarawak/Sabah-based radio announcers, radio programming and localised advertisements thereafter.

Why, you ask?
In the screenshot above, it mentions "in line with Astro Radio's transformation."
To me, it suggests that it is either they want to cut cost, or it is not making money, or both.

However, Era FM is not affected, and it will still continue its localised feed broadcast in Sarawak and Sabah just like today.
Maybe because localised Era FM versions in Sarawak and Sabah is making enough money.  sweat.gif
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post Sep 19 2023, 08:50 PM

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In the future - we may see a change on delivery method for linear broadcast/terrestrial TV and radio - as the spectrum currently used by terrestrial TV (470-698MHz) is on risk on handed over to mobile operators for low band 5G/6G developments.

The broadcast method will be 5G Broadcast - which will potentially replace the existing DVB-T2 system in the future. The broadcast channels (TV/Radio) will be delivered over 5G networks - but using the method that is called eMBMS, or evolved Multimedia Broadcast Multicast Service. It could deliver live TV/radio services, VOD and emergency services in large amounts of people.

This means that large events (sports/national day celebrations .etc) can be delivered in the most efficient method to mobile devices/TV without the need of internet -
and the live sport experience will be similar to the way that what we are experiencing on terrestrial TV.

Any devices that support 5G will be able to receive the broadcast without any SIM cards or verifications. Coverage roll out will be done by using existing TV/radio masts and some mobile masts (to fill the gaps).

However, a migration to a newer platform will meant set top boxes for all the existing TVs (there will be newer TVs support the system by default) There will be simulcasts and switch off of the old DVB-T2 signal, similar to the way we are migrated from analogue to digital TV. (And by the time we migrated to this, we would probably be receiving UHD/8K signals via H.266 or even newer codecs).

Some countries in Europe are already experimenting broadcasts using 5G, in preparation in case if the spectrum is handed over to mobile operators during WRC-23.

As the FM radio spectrum is overcrowded in certain parts of the country (Klang Valley, Johor Bahru .etc), it is currently impossible for new entrants to launch any radio services, even if they are interested. DAB+ (used in Europe) may be impractical because everyone will have to buy new radios, rollout of the entire new network and generally mobile devices doesn't support DAB+ reception (rather than FM that is widely supported). 5G broadcast will meant easy, high quality radio reception even on mobile devices with some necessary technical changes (such as converting existing TV masts into 5G broadcast main mast).

With 5G broadcast, it will be impractical to set very low audio bitrates (unlike the case of DAB+ and the current DVB-T2 with very appealing audio rates of 32kbps/48kbps.)


The migration to 5G broadcast from DVB-T2 here would likely happen in 2030s or later (considering that Malaysia will adopt the transition later than Europe) so you can still use the current DVB-T2 set top box/TVs until then.

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post Sep 19 2023, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(shaun_kok @ Sep 19 2023, 08:50 PM)
In the future - we may see a change on delivery method forĀ  linear broadcast/terrestrial TV and radio - as the spectrum currently used by terrestrial TV (470-698MHz) is on risk on handed over to mobile operators for low band 5G/6G developments.

The broadcast method will be 5G Broadcast - which will potentially replace the existing DVB-T2 system in the future. The broadcast channels (TV/Radio) will be delivered over 5G networks - but using the method that is called eMBMS, or evolved Multimedia Broadcast Multicast Service. It could deliver live TV/radio services, VOD and emergency services in large amounts of people.

This means that large events (sports/national day celebrations .etc) can be delivered in the most efficient method to mobile devices/TV without the need of internet -
and the live sport experience will be similar to the way that what we are experiencing on terrestrial TV.

Any devices that support 5G will be able to receive the broadcast without any SIM cards or verifications. Coverage roll out will be done by using existing TV/radio masts and some mobile masts (to fill the gaps).

However, a migration to a newer platform will meant set top boxes for all the existing TVs (there will be newer TVs supportĀ  the system by default) There will be simulcasts and switch off of the old DVB-T2 signal, similar to the way we are migrated from analogue to digital TV. (And by the time we migrated to this, we would probably be receiving UHD/8K signals via H.266 or even newer codecs).

Some countries in Europe are already experimenting broadcasts using 5G, in preparation in case if the spectrum is handed over to mobile operators during WRC-23.

As the FM radio spectrum is overcrowded in certain parts of the country (Klang Valley, Johor Bahru .etc), it is currently impossible for new entrants to launch any radio services, even if they are interested. DAB+ (used in Europe) may be impractical because everyone will have to buy new radios, rollout of the entire new network and generally mobile devices doesn't support DAB+ reception (rather than FM that is widely supported). 5G broadcast will meant easy, high quality radio reception even on mobile devices with some necessary technical changes (such as converting existing TV masts into 5G broadcast main mast).

With 5G broadcast, it will be impractical to set very low audio bitrates (unlike the case of DAB+ and the current DVB-T2 with very appealing audio rates of 32kbps/48kbps.)
The migration to 5G broadcast from DVB-T2 here would likely happen in 2030s or later (considering that Malaysia will adopt the transition later than Europe) so you can still use the current DVB-T2 set top box/TVs until then.
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I've heard about this, but from my recollection, only Germany seems to have done testing. The UK (which we usually based/import our technology from) doesnt' seem to be doing any testing/adoption currently. I presume this is due to the lockdown slowing down everything there, as well as BREXIT.
It's likely Europe won't even be prepared yet for this even when 2030 comes, which means it will also take longer in this region.

Edit:
For the UK, they are going the Broadband route instead of broadcasting.
Similar to RTM Click/Mana mana, free OTA TV's will be available for streaming, but instead of downloading an app over play store, it would be built in directly into Smart TVs sold in the UK



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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Sep 19 2023, 09:14 PM)
I've heard about this, but from my recollection, only Germany seems to have done testing. The UK (which we usually based/import our technology from) doesnt' seem to be doing any testing/adoption currently. I presume this is due to the lockdown slowing down everything there, as well as BREXIT.
It's likely Europe won't even be prepared yet for this even when 2030 comes, which means it will also take longer in this region.

Edit:
For the UK, they are going the Broadband route instead of broadcasting.
Similar to RTM Click/Mana mana, free OTA TV's will be available for streaming, but instead of downloading an app over play store, it would be built in directly into Smart TVs sold in the UK


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I had seen this - however internet based delivery for VOD/live broadcast is not going to be very reliable when compared to DVB-T2/5G broadcast. With the current codec and efficiency, you will need huge amounts of bandwidth to deliver content, even more if UHD based.

In fact - British terrestrial TV is now one of the most heavily compressed and has some of the lowest quality (544*576i/720*576i at around 1.X Mbps MPEG-2 - with one of the most efficient encoders) in the world, with just a single DVB-T2 multiplex providing HD PSB services (such as BBC) after they have shuttered 2 other DVB-T2 multiplexes, as a result of the 700MHz clearance. UK is still using the ancient technology that was launched 25 years ago to provide terrestrial TV to the public.

1.x Mbps MPEG-2 SD will never look good even with the latest, efficient encoders.

There are no current plans to migrate the remaining 5 into DVB-T2 and H.264, hence the urgent need of the Freely platform (for viewers who may want better picture quality and easy catch up of VOD services). If they didn't refresh Freeview with Freely, then terrestrial TV there will be severely left behind with what they say "405 line" digital TV.

In fact, even the satellite counterpart there Freesat offers a lot more HD quality channels (20+ compared to a just measly 9 on Freeview, some of them even timeshared).

Hence the possible development for 5G broadcast in the future (as linear TV broadcast is not going to disappear anytime soon).

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QUOTE(shaun_kok @ Sep 20 2023, 02:40 PM)
I had seen this - however internet based delivery for VOD/live broadcast is not going to be very reliable when compared to DVB-T2/5G broadcast. With the current codec and efficiency, you will need huge amounts of bandwidth to deliver content, even more if UHD based.

In fact - British terrestrial TV is now one of the most heavily compressed and has some of the lowest quality (544*576i/720*576i at around 1.X Mbps MPEG-2 - with one of the most efficient encoders) in the world, with just a single DVB-T2 multiplex providing HD PSB services (such as BBC) after they have shuttered 2 other DVB-T2 multiplexes, as a result of the 700MHz clearance. UK is still using the ancient technology that was launched 25 years ago to provide terrestrial TV to the public.

1.x Mbps MPEG-2 SD will never look good even with the latest, efficient encoders.

There are no current plans to migrate the remaining 5 into DVB-T2 and H.264, hence the urgent need of the Freely platform (for viewers who may want better picture quality and easy catch up of VOD services). If they didn't refresh Freeview with Freely, then terrestrial TV there will be severely left behind with what they say "405 line" digital TV.

In fact, even the satellite counterpart there Freesat offers a lot more HD quality channels (20+ compared to a just measly 9 on Freeview, some of them even timeshared).

Hence the possible development for 5G broadcast in the future (as linear TV broadcast is not going to disappear anytime soon).
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IIRC for BBC 4K, there is no DVB-T2 broadcast. You can only watch it online. So yeah, it's not surprising why our digital TV seems to be moving slowly for Malaysia, when our old boss United Kingdom is not really doing much themselves tongue.gif biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(joshhd @ Sep 18 2023, 10:15 PM)
Change topic a while... This is more related to FM radio broadcasts.

Sarawak and Sabah version of Hitz FM and MY FM will cease and to be migrated to the same version as Peninsular Malaysia.
user posted image
For those who don't know, if you tune to Hitz FM, Era FM or MY FM radio station in Sarawak and Sabah, some of the radio programming, radio announcers and also advertisements are completely different compared to the Hitz FM, Era FM or MY FM version that you listen in Peninsular Malaysia. The 3 radio stations mentioned has been broadcasting in localised feed since 2010, and this is about to change effective 1 October 2023.

In case you still don't understand, from 1 October 2023 onwards:
- Hitz FM and MY FM transmission in Sarawak and Sabah, will revert back to the same radio feed as Peninsular Malaysia today.
- Whatever you listen on Hitz FM and MY FM stations via FM radio transmissions within Peninsular Malaysia today, and then you fly to Sarawak/Sabah and tune to Hitz FM and MY FM transmission there, it will be the same version as what you listen back in Peninsular Malaysia.
- No more Sarawak/Sabah-based radio announcers, radio programming and localised advertisements thereafter.

Why, you ask?
In the screenshot above, it mentions "in line with Astro Radio's transformation."
To me, it suggests that it is either they want to cut cost, or it is not making money, or both.

However, Era FM is not affected, and it will still continue its localised feed broadcast in Sarawak and Sabah just like today.
Maybe because localised Era FM versions in Sarawak and Sabah is making enough money.  sweat.gif
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I just want to know what the impact will be if these two radio stations are closed in a certain area. It will make people very angry and can't even listen to the host's radio station now la.
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https://www.bharian.com.my/bisnes/korporat/...lang-akhir-2023

What it didn't mention is that the missing 2 channel are Media Prima radio channel (not Fly FM and Kool FM) that are pending.

 

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