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post Dec 28 2019, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(joshhd @ Dec 28 2019, 07:19 AM)
Errr... I would say... 70-80% and above whenever possible? Just try your best to get the highest readings while positioning your antenna.

And make sure the BER is always 0.00 (Bit Error Rate) and it's not fluctuating. MYTV box does indicate that on the diagnosis page. When BER is 0, that means the reception doesn't have signal errors (stable signal), hence you won't experience pixelation or intermittent loss of signal.
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🤔, Do I look at pre BER or post BER... currently it seems like I got like BER rating of 1 as in the screenshot above but the image is useable
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post Dec 28 2019, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(joshhd @ Dec 28 2019, 09:54 AM)
Oh, I wasn't aware the BER reading on your previous photos, and plus you edited the post by adding more photos (Lowyat forum didn't notify me  hmm.gif ) Then I have some corrections to made...
And wah, that "hobby grade splicing" shakehead.gif Confirm reduce signal... Use a cable splitter, like this...
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https://shopee.com.my/2way-splitter-for-rg6...5202.2851272280

Pre BER means the readings of any data errors receive by your MYTV, before it is being corrected.
Post BER means the result after the receiver (MYTV box) corrected the data signal errors received earlier.

Anyhow, both pre and post BER should be 0.00

BER of 1 and 2 may be acceptable and may able to watch as usual, but susceptible to viewing disruption at anytime since the signal is not stable.
Because BER means "bit error rate", that means the "data" has errors for some reasons (e.g. cable attenuation, interference, weak signal). So that's why the BER should be 0.00, or else you will experience intermittent disruption in reception.

I think you can get started, firstly by removing that tape on the cables used by your landlord's "hobby grade splicing" and re-terminate the cable with F connectors, then connect to the cable splitter. I don't think your landlord would mind that la.... Even if your landlord is not friendly type, I don't think he/she would mind also, since using proper cable splitter will be better than that "hobby splicing" method.

And once you did that, and the signal improves and BER is 0.00, both TVs also no signal issue, then no need to get new antenna and cable...  biggrin.gif
In that case, signal quality and BER matters more than signal strength. Simply means, just because you have strong signal, doesn't mean you have good signal.
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I’ve literally no idea how to go there since there’s zinc roof

Would go on with “starting fresh” probably better than redoing their work and use RG6 cable instead instead of the poorly terminated cable( some how 1 end- TV side needs an appropriate angle for the best performance ) not to mention that the antenna have a wire hanging off of it for some reason

Looking to start fresh with this combo, according to the picture, it comes with black color RG6 cable

https://s.lazada.com.my/s.Zwtoo

Also that splitter uses the Astro satellite connector ? Maybe I could use the splitter for both TV and leave the landlord antenna as it is( no TV connected)... TV 2 seems to be able to receive just fine other than probably higher than normal BER rating on RTM channel and rarely used at the moment....

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post Dec 28 2019, 07:09 PM

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joshHD the situation is the “hobby grade splicing” is at the zinc roof area....
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post Dec 29 2019, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(AV_2018 @ Dec 29 2019, 05:04 PM)
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The VHF part of antenna looks broken and the dangling cable is supposed to be connected from the UHF section box to the VHF section which supposed to have another box. Since the VHF section is disconnected, there may be impedance matching issues at the open ended cable.
The other issue is the poor splitting to two TVs without a proper splitter. This too will cause impedance matching issues as a proper splitter will have a transformer in it.
A mismatched impedance will cause signal loss/degradation and signal reflection within the antenna cable.
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That explains why there’s a total signal loss when it’s raining as if the hanging cable when it contacts with rainwater ?
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post Dec 31 2019, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(totally_skint @ Dec 31 2019, 11:10 AM)
So, avoid Botato then?
It's the cheapest while Pensonic is over three times more expensive.
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Em, Using botato DVB T2 decoder(brought it early 2019), so far so good, other than got a bit of lag. BTW, this decoder have PVR functionality(requires USB Pendrive).

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post Dec 31 2019, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(AV_2018 @ Dec 31 2019, 05:57 PM)
Does it support HbbTV feature for pressing red button to access interactive features like news, weather, EPG and VOD on rtm channels and TV3?
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Nope, didn’t order it with the USB WiFi adapter...so I can’t test it, it doesn’t have Ethernet port

Isnt EPG part of dvb-T2 and doesn’t require internet to use?

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QUOTE(joshhd @ Dec 31 2019, 06:34 PM)

The EPG data you get, is from DVB-T2.
The broadcaster also pays MYTV Broadcasting to provide EPG data to viewers, as overall the EPG data also uses about 1-2Mbps (that includes 7 days EPG, programme description, etc.) Astro also same.

So, don't think that MYTV Broadcasting is so kind to give you EPG data. Broadcaster also have to pay them money for that too, so whether that channel has EPG data or not, is also depends on that broadcaster too.

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AV_2018, if this the case then yes it has EPG
QUOTE(joshhd @ Dec 31 2019, 06:34 PM)

You can use the generic USB WiFi adapter.. Not necessarily must use the one that come with it. I mean generic, it could be those no brand type, cheap RM10-15 type, 802.11n 150MHz type. Those usually can work already.
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🤔, I don’t have any cheap no brand WiFi adapter around
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post Dec 31 2019, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(AV_2018 @ Dec 29 2019, 05:04 PM)
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The VHF part of antenna looks broken and the dangling cable is supposed to be connected from the UHF section box to the VHF section which supposed to have another box. Since the VHF section is disconnected, there may be impedance matching issues at the open ended cable.
The other issue is the poor splitting to two TVs without a proper splitter. This too will cause impedance matching issues as a proper splitter will have a transformer in it.
A mismatched impedance will cause signal loss/degradation and signal reflection within the antenna cable.
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So after I left Ipoh, my aunt complained to me that all channel cannot receive all channel

Anyways I’ve already ordered a new antenna + RG6 cable combo that joshHD had suggested(same seller except that it’s on Lazada)
https://s.lazada.com.my/s.ZDOUe

Btw placement wise must it be next to the window or can be any part of the house

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post Dec 31 2019, 09:07 PM

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QUOTE(AV_2018 @ Dec 31 2019, 09:02 PM)
Ya DVB-T2 also got EPG but the channels have their own EPG with their own design via HbbTV too. Sometimes the DVB-T2 EPG is missing for some channels then can use the HbbTV EPG.
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that part not sure, but according to the description of the botato DVB T2, it's for watching youtube apparently
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post Dec 31 2019, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(totally_skint @ Dec 31 2019, 10:29 PM)
What's important to me is the reliability and quality of playback.
Are they all of the same video quality?
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To me, the botato DVB T2 decoder is also good enough, decent playback.... but only issue is there’s lag sometimes when navigating between channels,etc.. that may change with the latest model though( mine isn’t the latest model)

If not mistaken green packet makes the mytv basic decoder which was given out for free to eliqible recipient, that may be a better bet

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post Dec 31 2019, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(AV_2018 @ Dec 31 2019, 10:58 PM)
The MYTV Advance STB is also kinda laggy and gets hot. The recording feature also doesn't work. It has Ethernet port so can access HbbTV but the HbbTV is laggy till VOD can hardly be played.

Using a TV with built-in DVB-T2 and HbbTV support works way better.
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As far as I know PVR function is intentionally disabled on the MYTV box at the moment... in terms of lag 🤔, never see the lag on the MYTV basic box though( rarely used so can’t give an accurate judgement)..... it’s even more responsive than the botato DVB T2

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post Jan 1 2020, 04:19 PM

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https://www.lowyat.net/2020/202911/5g-malay...nds-rollout-q3/

5G is going to take over the analog TV spot?
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post Jan 7 2020, 07:46 AM

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QUOTE(MrSpeedy @ Jan 6 2020, 09:47 PM)
Anyone using the given free MyFreeview decoder (forgot its model name)?
Any particular reason to connect to the Wifi?

1. It never use the internet to sync time.
2. Hbbtv probably not support for free / standard decoder version.
3. What kind of ancient Wifi protocol is using? The input password not even support for symbol characters (eg @).
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MYTV basic decoder doesn't support connecting to wifi/HBBtv feature

MYTV advance decoder has support for HBBtv(it should be free if not mistaken), I don't think it supports wifi though.... maybe joshHD can verify

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post Jan 13 2020, 08:05 AM

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QUOTE(devildevil87 @ Jan 12 2020, 10:32 PM)
Anyone using the DVB-T2 U-002?
Where to find the firware update for this model?
I can open video from the pendrive but no sound.
Plan to see if got any update to support video codec or had better UI~
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That looks similar to the botato DVB T2 box to me, maybe same OEM and my botato DVB T2 box doesn’t get firmware update(unless I can find it )
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post Jan 16 2020, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(Qash-M @ Jan 16 2020, 08:42 AM)
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More space on Mux 2, since 114 & 121 relocated to RTM mux (aka gov mux).
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Guessing a rescan is required?
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post Jan 20 2020, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(joshhd @ Jan 20 2020, 04:40 PM)
My goodness... Another common problem in "those" Malaysian made website.
http://status.mytvbroadcasting.my/

A website, that user were to enter and submit IC number, is not HTPPS.
The website, is in HTTP instead of HTTPS.
Imagine that users have to enter own IC number into an unsecured website. shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif
Those who don't know what is HTTP and HTTPS, you may Google search that on your own.

https://sayasukamyfreeview.com/?lang=ms
This one appears to be HTTPS, but as I checked, it's not fully HTTPS, so it is not fully secure.

I don't think MYTV customer service would even understand what does this mean.
Such cases like this, who should I refer to convey this complaint?
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Mcmc?

They handle website censoring in Malaysia, maybe they would help

Http for personal information 👏👏, hope that browsers detect this and say “danger ahead” otherwise hope that the user didn’t enter their IC number on unsecured network

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post Jan 25 2020, 08:58 PM

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Testing the UHF antenna at my uncle’s house 1st

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Signal isn’t probably optimal but once I deploy it at my aunt’s house, then I’ll adjust for optimal signal

🤔, now can receive TV guide for both mux already?

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post Jan 26 2020, 05:40 AM

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QUOTE(joshhd @ Jan 26 2020, 02:25 AM)
That's a very good sign. biggrin.gif
What's the area again? And what's the approx distance from nearest transmitter again? For your both uncle and aunt's hse...
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Taman Lapangan permai, Ipoh , roughly around 17KM to Gunung Keledang

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post Jan 26 2020, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(joshhd @ Jan 26 2020, 11:13 AM)
Eiiii so near only...
That antenna you bought good enough ady...
Just find a suitable spot to place it permanently. If don't feel like drilling the wall, then just put it anywhere you want, like on top of cabinet or something.
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This LG TV apparently supports HBB TV

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post Jan 26 2020, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(joshhd @ Jan 26 2020, 11:13 AM)
Eiiii so near only...
That antenna you bought good enough ady...
Just find a suitable spot to place it permanently. If don't feel like drilling the wall, then just put it anywhere you want, like on top of cabinet or something.
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With the current placement, both mux can get roughly the same % in signal strength- 60+%

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