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post Aug 27 2007, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(jinaun @ Aug 27 2007, 10:41 AM)
where is their backbone connected to???
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check the thread a few pages back there was a talk and etc on trace/ping time and etc... icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(wr6969 @ Aug 27 2007, 11:28 AM)
Most, if not all, wireless broadband require you to be close to the "outside", ie. near a window, opening, etc.  These signals don't penetrate deep into a sheltered structure.  That's why you see Maxis and Celcom installing indoor base stations in busy shopping centres to address this.  UMTS/HSDPA signals are the same - the further inside a house you go, the less the signal becomes.  Most people lose HSDPA signal completely once they are inside the house, away from windows.

If anyone wants to have some information on ping times, tracerts, etc on the Izzi network, post them here and I'll do them once I've finished downloading  wink.gif
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well thats true i doubt they will install a wireless repeater in house like shopping complexes tongue.gif

you mentioned "If anyone wants to have some information on ping times, tracerts, etc on the Izzi network, post them here and I'll do them once I've finished downloading wink.gif"

meaning you have access to izzi and can provide us trace/ping time ? rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(JinXXX @ Aug 27 2007, 12:11 PM)
check the thread a few pages back there was a talk and etc on trace/ping time and etc... icon_rolleyes.gif
well thats true i doubt they will install a wireless repeater in house like shopping complexes tongue.gif


Repeaters are not cheap, it is highly unlikely that they will do so. You're more likely to strike the jackpot in the lottery laugh.gif

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you mentioned "If anyone wants to have some information on ping times, tracerts, etc on the Izzi network, post them here and I'll do them once I've finished downloading  wink.gif"

meaning you have access to izzi and can provide us trace/ping time ?  rclxub.gif
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Yes, I signed up. I have the IzziPro device, using the Ethernet connection, not USB. I am not in their coverage area but I can get a signal.

Any requests?
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QUOTE(wr6969 @ Aug 27 2007, 12:19 PM)
Repeaters are not cheap, it is highly unlikely that they will do so.  You're more likely to strike the jackpot in the lottery laugh.gif
Yes, I signed up.  I have the IzziPro device, using the Ethernet connection, not USB.  I am not in their coverage area but I can get a signal.

Any requests?
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well they can get those so called nano-repeaters, based on ASDL tech.. tongue.gif

your not in their coverage area but you can get a signal ? ok some people are in the coverage area but get no signal smile.gif

so far how good/stable is the link/bandwidth ? &
how stable is the ping time, will the device lags after lets say 24 hours for a month ?


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QUOTE(JinXXX @ Aug 27 2007, 12:39 PM)

so far how good/stable is the link/bandwidth ? &
how stable is the ping time, will the device lags after lets say 24 hours for a month ?
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Link/bandwidth is rather stable so far. I have premium accounts for HTTP file hosters, so can usually max out my download at around 110-120KB/s. No disconnects, even after continuous session of heavy downloading. P2P sucks, big time.

As for ping time, be more specific. I can't answer motherhood type questions.

As for lagging, sorry, I switch off my modem every night as I have to place it on the grille to get the best reception (remember that my area supposedly has no coverage, so I'm getting coverage from a far away base station tongue.gif). And the longer you switch something on continuously, the higher the chances of the device going kaput. And since you can't simply walk to LowYat and buy an iBurst terminal modem, I am not taking that chance not knowing what Izzi's RMA process is like (although they do give you "rebates" for downtime caused by equipment failure).

My offer to do some ping tests and trace routes still stands, but it won't be forever wink.gif

Ask quick before I lose my generosity!
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wr6969: no one taken up your generous offer yet?? Lamerz. tongue.gif

OK. I'll bite, since you're using their desktop modem, which would, by right, have higher dB gain than the PC card form factor, especially for the uplink.

So here's the poser. In my earlier tests, I consistently got ~250kbps for DL and about half of that for UL in speedtests to MetroFON. Can you do better than that with your modem? I'm curious because you've managed to achieve a downlink of nearly 1Mbps (110-120KB/s).

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i admire your generosity but more important your bravery for subscribing to the service even though u know that its not in your area. u must be downright wealthy or really desperate for broadband. no puns and flames intended.
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Izzinet called me & talk abt their new service is up and alr using in wangsamaju here. he told me students in the past 1 wk has been using n no complain i dono true onot rm88 (for laptop only) cheapest. now i feel like wanto try it

Added on August 30, 2007, 11:05 amohya. i live very very near to the source (i know is unhealthy) and i surf indoor. they say no dl cap speed/bandwidth. wat u think. u think itl work for me? 88rm(1mb) x 12=1056

maxis 68rm (384kb upto 512kb but i think tis one once in few moons) x 12(lock 18 months)+rm100 activation=916rm
98 (7xxkb~1.5mb) x12 (same 1.5yrs lock)=1176rm

so wat u think

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f...0#entry13051917
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Sorry for the silence...just got back to town. As promised, the tracert results:

Tracing route to www.yahoo-ht3.akadns.net [69.147.114.210]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 45 ms 43 ms 44 ms 116.206.1.6
2 59 ms 43 ms 44 ms 116.206.0.98
3 57 ms 44 ms 44 ms 116.206.0.26
4 64 ms 49 ms 49 ms 116.206.0.1
5 70 ms 64 ms 49 ms 202.76.239.1
6 60 ms 49 ms 49 ms 202.76.224.62
7 99 ms 384 ms 364 ms 202.76.224.19
8 121 ms 93 ms 54 ms gi0-2-407.gw1.kul1.asianetcom.net [202.147.33.14
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9 76 ms 54 ms 54 ms gi2-0-0.gw3.kul1.asianetcom.net [202.147.48.146]

10 63 ms 54 ms 54 ms po1-3.gw2.sin1.asianetcom.net [202.147.48.162]
11 201 ms 204 ms 224 ms po14-0-2.cr2.nrt1.asianetcom.net [202.147.48.18]

12 327 ms 309 ms 309 ms po4-0-0.gw1.sjc1.asianetcom.net [202.147.0.198]

13 321 ms 329 ms 310 ms PAT1.SJC.yahoo.com [206.223.116.150]
14 377 ms 360 ms 358 ms so-0-0-0.pat1.dcp.yahoo.com [216.115.101.148]
15 455 ms 365 ms 373 ms ge-2-1-0-p160.msr1.re1.yahoo.com [216.115.108.25
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16 374 ms 360 ms 368 ms gi1-23.bas-a1.re3.yahoo.com [68.142.238.67]
17 401 ms 364 ms 363 ms f1.www.vip.re3.yahoo.com [69.147.114.210]

Trace complete.


So... wat does the result mean? I traced www.yahoo.com.... agree tho the outside speed seems to be faster than in-building. Fine for me as I'm always moving about and accessing even in kopitiams, mamaks and offices. Maybe psychological (since I invested $$) but I'm more satisfied with this than my previous 3G:-) hehe...

BTW, is there any other tests I can run besides tracert? Or any other test anyone wana test this izi? Letme know but gotta instruct me how to do it ya. Just wana learn more from all of ya ere... notworthy.gif Dun mind sharing info since I'm already on this... cheers! And Selamat Hari Merdeka! Hapy 50th Birthday to beloved Malaysia!!
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QUOTE(husagi @ Aug 30 2007, 12:40 AM)
wr6969: no one taken up your generous offer yet?? Lamerz. tongue.gif

OK. I'll  bite, since you're using their desktop modem, which would, by right, have higher dB gain than the PC card form factor, especially for the uplink.

So here's the poser. In my earlier tests, I consistently got ~250kbps for DL and about half of that for UL in speedtests to MetroFON. Can you do better than that with your modem? I'm curious because you've managed to achieve a downlink of nearly 1Mbps (110-120KB/s).
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Haha, only one single bite...gotta work on my lure tongue.gif

Here are the test results, to the same KL server, as well as Penang and Cyberjaya servers. Tests done three times.

Tests done at 1330 MST, 30 August 2007. May do another identical test at night if sufficiently motivated laugh.gif

KL:

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Penang:

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Cyberjaya:

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Ah, I've reached my quota of attached images per post. Someone post a reply, and I will post the remainder of my test results - from TMNet, Jaring and Izzi's own speedometers, as well as my terminal status screenshots wink.gif

BTW, to preserve much of my anonymity, I am posting this reply from Celcom's 3G. In case a mod looks at the panel and wondering why is it that an Izzi user is using Celcom's service to post tongue.gif


Added on August 30, 2007, 2:48 pm
QUOTE(sharkteef @ Aug 30 2007, 01:17 AM)
i admire your generosity but more important your bravery for subscribing to the service even though u know that its not in your area. u must be downright wealthy or really desperate for broadband. no puns and flames intended.
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No offense taken, cause I'm a pretty stupid person. What to do, when you're a wireless broadband junkie? At the last count, I have a couple of Celcom's 3G lines, Izzinet, and countless other wifi hotspots at my disposal tongue.gif

You should pity me actually - I am now a very poor person because of this obsession with all things wireless cry.gif

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QUOTE(wr6969 @ Aug 30 2007, 02:45 PM)
Haha, only one single bite...gotta work on my lure tongue.gif

Here are the test results, to the same KL server, as well as Penang and Cyberjaya servers.  Tests done three times.

Tests done at 1330 MST, 30 August 2007.  May do another identical test at night if sufficiently motivated laugh.gif
Haha. You should use a bigger bait next time.

Hmmmm... The downlink to the KL server (MetroFON) seems to be the same as what I got. Though your uplink is obviously better, as expected.

QUOTE(wr6969 @ Aug 30 2007, 02:45 PM)
Ah, I've reached my quota of attached images per post.  Someone post a reply, and I will post the remainder of my test results - from TMNet, Jaring and Izzi's own speedometers, as well as my terminal status screenshots  wink.gif
Yes, do please post. Thanks. smile.gif

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As promised, here's part deux.

Jaring's speed test

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TMNet speedometer

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Izzi's own speedtest

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I've leave people to comment on these test results. One thing I have to say though - testing even to Izzi's own speedtest server doesn't give me at least 80-85% of subscribed speed - I wonder if I can ask for a proportional rebate for not getting the bandwidth I paid for? tongue.gif

Here's my iBurst terminal "About" screens showing signal strength and also hardware/software information on the terminal:

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[quote=wr6969,Aug 30 2007, 02:45 PM]
Haha, only one single bite...gotta work on my lure tongue.gif

Here are the test results, to the same KL server, as well as Penang and Cyberjaya servers. Tests done three times.



Mind sharing the test site address please? Didn't izi ...or izzi.. (spelt it wrong till now) hehe... Theoretically, your results indicate the speeds are lower than 3G but thus far I'm more satisfied with izzi than my previous 3G based on actual use. So does it mean my 3G is slower than the 200+kbps you charted? Plz plz let me have the test sites ya... like to satisfy my curiosity hmm.gif Thanks ya!
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Wow awesome results wr6969. Very very much appreciated for all your trouble.

655 kbps for a 1mb line? Man.. thats sorta looked bad o_O;
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QUOTE(ahpek26 @ Aug 30 2007, 06:58 PM)
Wow awesome results wr6969. Very very much appreciated for all your trouble.

655 kbps for a 1mb line? Man.. thats sorta looked bad o_O;
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No problems. Just helping out.

655kbps for a single thread.

Pssst - don't tell them, but if I use around 6/8 simultaneous threads to download something from HTTP/FTP, I get around 110/120 KB/s. Been downloading like a crazed madman (oxymoron alert! laugh.gif) for the past week (catching up on some good TV series tongue.gif)

Now to figure out why P2P speeds suck so badly when they claim that they do not throttle P2P (for now). Strangely enough, P2P streaming via Octoshape works just fine (most of the time). Octoshape's performance sucks on Celcom's 3G network, but works fine on Izzi's.

@DEC:

The test websites:

(1) http://www.speedtest.net

(2) http://www.izzi.com.my/speedtest

(3) http://202.188.95.52:8080/speedometer/

(4) http://www.speed.jaring.my/

Some prefer testmy.net but I've never gotten accurate (at least to me) results from there, so I avoided them. I can do them, if someone asks

Hope they help! wink.gif

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QUOTE(ahpek26 @ Aug 30 2007, 06:58 PM)
655 kbps for a 1mb line? Man.. thats sorta looked bad o_O;
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I'd take that with a pinch of salt. It could be server-side limitation. 655kbps, to me, is quite good already when you juxtapose that result to the other speed test results.

Considering how speed tests to networks outside of Izzi consistently stays below ~300kbps, and yet, you're able to achieve 655kbps within, there's only one conclusion in my mind... their upstream provider sucks.

QUOTE(wr6969 @ Aug 30 2007, 07:36 PM)
655kbps for a single thread.

Pssst - don't tell them, but if I use around 6/8 simultaneous threads to download something from HTTP/FTP, I get around 110/120 KB/s.
Hmmmm.... broken bandwidth shaper at AIMS? Hehehehe.

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QUOTE(husagi @ Aug 30 2007, 09:50 PM)
I'd take that with a pinch of salt. It could be server-side limitation. 655kbps, to me, is quite good already when you juxtapose that result to the other speed test results.

Considering how speed tests to networks outside of Izzi consistently stays below ~300kbps, and yet, you're able to achieve 655kbps within, there's only one conclusion in my mind... their upstream provider sucks.


I would bet my life (almost...) that this is indeed what it is.

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Hmmmm.... broken bandwidth shaper at AIMS? Hehehehe.
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I doubt it. I get almost consistent results with Celcom3G. Only with a download manager downloading using multiple threads for the same file can I reach what I term an "acceptable" speed. Same goes for Streamyx, especially with those file hosters with whom I have premium accounts. Oh heck, who cares, so long as I get close to what I paid for, yeah? tongue.gif
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Haizzz.... after read all of these.... better stick to Streamyx.... atleast it still has good IP for a litle bit fast connection.
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Ok..if near window but wnidow close...is the collection still available?


Added on August 31, 2007, 11:55 pmIn izzi.com...

I saw a picture where a people playing with his laptop in the car while the car is moving with window close....

So means...in the car still got connection, but how come some people say close window = no connection?

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i m subscribing izziyou package.

here is the test result at my area ( miharja , staying at 8th floor )

only around 75% of 1mb package but sastified me as my area only streamyx coverage. so i rather go for izzi.

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QUOTE(arjen_robben81 @ Sep 1 2007, 01:19 AM)
i m subscribing izziyou package.

here is the test result at my area ( miharja , staying at 8th floor )

only around 75% of 1mb package but sastified me as my area only streamyx coverage. so i rather go for izzi.

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Can tell me y rather go for Izzi?

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