Hi Sifus,

Not sure if this is the right place to post.

I am thinking of getting G20 BMW 3 series (330i), and I'm thinking if it's worth getting the CBU unit.

Question is how different is it between a CBU made BMW versus our CKD ones?

Is it significantly better in terms of the build quality (less rattling) etc.

And what's your view if able to get CBU 330i at RM270k? Is it a good deal?

Thanks

This post has been edited by ouchie_88: Nov 1 2019, 10:33 AM

I'll just get the CBU unit, never trust CKD unit.

270k is pre-reg or un-reg?
I have the same dilemma too but the unit is pre-reg, I want to do interchange my old number

I believe it's pre-reg bro. So wait, pre-reg cannot change new number? Actually, do you think it's a good deal?

And do we get a premium if we sell it in future? For having a CBU unit? Or not really?

I think pre-reg can still change new number, just the process is more tedious and runner tends to charge quite a lot on this. I bought a 10 month old premium selection unit and the sales lady said if want to change new number the runner first have to register the plate onto an existing vehicle eg: motorcycle before can register new number for your car.

Whereas for CBU/CKD resale value, from my experience the difference is almost negligible especially if both CBU & CKD comes with the same level of equipment which is the case for the new G20 3 series.

Thanks for your response. I guess the key question here is how likely the 330i price would drop to RM240k- RM250k next year end (15% discount) - when they wanted to clear their 2020 stocks. That would mean that the current buyer of discounted CBU (RM270k) is paying a 30k premium for CBU unit?

By any chance how much does it cost for the runner to do all those pre-reg work?

Bro check out the new Volvo s60 as well.. same price range cbu.. the HP and torque figures hnghhhh

15% discount is unlikely, more like around 3-4% discount. I believe the CKD 320i is coming around next year if you're interested in that, should be priced around 240k brand new.

If I recall correctly my sales lady said it's around RM3K for the new plate swap which turned me off. Initially I wanted a 20 month old car but the thought of having to pay extra 3k to get rid of that penang plate (I drive in klang valley) I might as well pay some premium and get a newer car, and ended up getting a 8 month old unit.

The newly launched Volvo S60 T8 - Specifications wise (e.g. BHP, Torque, standard kit, etc.); it looks way better compared to BMW G20 330i (neither CBU nor CKD). However, if you’re a driving enthusiast - BMW G20 330i is the best car to drive due to is sporty characteristic & superb handling in its class.

On the car depreciation - suggest you to get ready of this; which is unavoidable especially with the continental cars.

My preference is always the CBU unit - i’m impress with the technology during assembly; as watched in the YouTube.

CBU is definitely better build than CKD or SKD. However, it doesn’t mean it is without any problems.

My neighbors’ CBU 5 series had more problems than my SKD 5 series. So, I guess it really depends on your luck!

Also, rm270k for G20 330i is pretty attractive.

Cbu has more issues than Ckd! Tyres for one is a major risk for cbu unit.

Haha why? Tires of all things?

Buy the S60. It’s AWD.
Better spec car, full safety suite. Just butt ugly.

The 330i not worth the asking price.

270k is a good price for CBU G20 330i at this time, but if you don’t really need it right now it’s likely the facelift in a couple years or so will contain better safety features like AEB, lane keep assist etc. It’s just completely unacceptable to me that a 200k+ car doesn’t contain such safety features, if not for me, for my family who I’ll be driving around.

Aren't the CBU unit was built based on the home country climate; eg 4 seasons? Thus explain why CBU unit inherit more problems compared to CKD unit, aren't it?

Your point being? Handles worst? Unless you’re carving maximum speed around an apex it doesn’t really matter. And for the average Joe AWD is safer as it tends to understeer.

Not too sure if that's still the right logic because most of the cars in the developed nations like Singapore, Australia are mostly CBU. And their weather is very hot during summer (especially Australia) - maybe less of the humidity element? But I believe most of them have already looked into these factors when they build it now - maybe not in their earlier days.

I could be wrong. Happy to hear the rest.

CBU certainly feels more solid tbh. my family own a CBU and CKD F30 and the CBU doors close so much better, clicks better. built quality difference very obvious. the new G series we not sure

however its true that CBU built based on home country climate. we noticed the rubber cracked earlier, got some tiny aesthetic interior issue (due to park in the sun). but for the extra 40k+, i would save it and go CKD beause we have to consider depreciation.

as its a BMW, i dont see those safety lane assist as something that will be implemented on a 3series. so its either you want more horsepower or less (320i will launch soon). 320i will be 30k-40k+ cheaper so you think about it.

Pre-reg can register for newly bought number plate, but not an existing plate already registered on a car..

This post has been edited by Boy96: Nov 12 2019, 04:45 PM

Some CBU got special size tires & models which is hard to get within local market tire shop..
If anything happen, you might need to go back to SC and get slaughted by the high price..

Thanks for your feedback. Appreciate it.

I actually saw the CKD G20 unit at the showroom and the joints of the interior plastics seems to be less seamless with gaps relative to the CBU units.

I thought that those are assembled by machines & robots? How much of it is done manually?

Also I've heard from the salesgirl that the CBU unit suspension is slightly stiffer as compared to the CKD - when she follows her customer for test drive she noticed it.

This post has been edited by ouchie_88: Nov 22 2019, 04:49 PM

suspension stiffness can be adjust. itS true CKD is less stiff, we sent it back to auto bavaria and they did some adjustment for us.
automation mainly on welding, parts production, painting. fixture and stuff they do have the standard template but its done by manual labour.


however like i previously stated, does depreciation matter? do you want to drive this car as a daily car ( my family did 120k KM for our CKD in 3 years)? if so, go for CKD,

Wats the best deal u guys got for g20 330i?
Can share? haha

What's the best offer you've received

What's the best offer you've received

They are 2 kind of suspension set up for BMW...

1 is the normal suspension set up, while the other is the M Sport suspension..
Usually the M Sport suspension is more lowered (around half to one inch) and stiffer..
If want comfort ask for normal spec and not the M sport package.

Thanks for the feedback, but I think we were comparing M-sport CKD and CBU

You need to ask, some is just M-Sport bodykit and not suspension.

Anyone knows when the 320i G20 will be launched? Hope it's Q1 2020, so can have premium selection by Q4 2020 (My F20 warranty ending then so need to trade in ASAP)

I think last week someone spotted it in Port Klang

Just want to give you an update since you asked about it; I bought the G20 330i CBU registered in March '19 for RM239k two weeks ago. So it depreciated by RM89k in a little less than a year. According to my SA, the CBU is running out fast, not so sure about that since I can still see them posted online in Carlist (which is where I first found them)

With my fleet discounts I can get the CKD for RM265k but decided to save RM26k, skipped the one year-depreciation and CBU-assembly as a bonus

This post has been edited by wild_card_my: Jan 26 2020, 01:23 AM

What was the mileage when you bought yours bro?

8000 km

239K is a really good deal!

it was. Plus free tinting from 3M. Good quality and installation

But I have clocked now clocked it to 15k km since getting the car in February, that 7k km in 3 months, including the MCO periods. Won't say where I went la, so many kaypochi here hehehe

I travel a lot for business calls, and I am happy each time I leave my car

Bro, that's quite a decent amount of mileage you've put in since getting the car too.

My current ride also not even breached 10K since I got it in July19. Haha.

Home to work also around 12-13km one way and the occasional drive down to in-law at Seremban around 1-2 times a month.

The latest 3 series are equipped with safety features now...

Since July '19? that's about 10 months now including the MCO, so you only do 1k km a month. If you do not go much further than you claimed, that sounds about right -~600km for work, the rest for leisure. btw what car is it?

Now that you mention it, I don't really know where I have been to rack up 7k km in 3 months, other than meeting the clients at their home or work. However I do know that I enjoy driving even to far corners of Klang Valley now, the car is "effortlessly fast".

It is not the fastest car, certainly not as fast as the Porsche Cayman that I test drove some weeks ago, but it is unnoticeably fast. When driving, my eyes tell that I am moving at high speeds, but my body doesn't report the same sensation; so this can be deceiving and in some instances, dangerous. When I first got the car I would a corner a little too fast and had to make corrections to that

Talking about the Cayman, the boxer engine was a little "too much" - it was rough, loud and the car as a whole was quite a stiff ride. It went from 100kmh to reach X00kmh much more easily than the 330i but it is not like you get to drive at such high speeds all the time. Problem is, the Cayman isn't an ideal car for city driving due to the pot holes on the roads and worse visibility, nor do I drive too fast too often on the highways - it is a head turner though

Then again maybe it is just me, since reaching my 30s a few years ago, I've grown more fond of "touring" rather than sports. Im itching to drive to the east coast for some deep fried seafood during raya (1st day celebrate, 2nd day head to Terengganu/Pahang)





This post has been edited by wild_card_my: May 8 2020, 09:58 AM

I believe they are camera based, not radar based. Which is a pass for mer. If they are radar based BMW would have added the "adaptive cruise control" feature too, but they didn't

I will ask today once I go to BMW Service Center. Must get to the bottom of this

Myvi G3 only bro. Haha. I bought it to replace my previous Jaguar. Cannot tahan the maintenance and wife nagging so opted to get a new car that's simple and reliable. My first brand new car actually and didn't really think about other marques cos I needed to be realistic about my earnings plus managing the cash for my family. For a sub $60K car, what else to look out for since I'm looking to have it for the long haul until the time comes to upgrade my wife's ride.

If you're using Android phone and have Google locations turned on, you can actually use the 'timeline' feature to keep track of all your whereabouts... Pretty nifty feature although many might think Google is being a nosy congolomerate as usual and keeping track of all aspects of our lives.

Yea, you're right about speed, or the sensation of it.

100+ km/hr as a passenger in my aunt's Kenari on Federal Highway many years ago was a sweaty affair vs sitting in my mum's old W124 Benz.

But it's really not safe to drive cars at certain limits cos of the floaty feeling. 180km in my Myvi isn't the same as pushing 180 in my Jaguar too.

Cayman is good.You shared before you're planning on it potentially being your next ride once it's time to move up from your current 3 series.

I am looking for a bmw 330i g20 for sub-200k.. seems like last year they bought itpreowned at 239k.. this year if got any preowned units.. please do contact me.. or if anyone want to sell their car. I need to take loan though

Need to find g20 330i, 2019 model for sub 200k.. how did you get your unit? Through premium selection?.

Check carlist.my
I think the lowest price for 2019 is around rm225k but average is RM235k++

Good luck, it’s a good buy and you will be smiling while driving.