Damn it it's happened again fourth time house got broken into and stuff stolen...

This time our TNB electric meter got stolen...



Before that they tried to steal our water filter



And before that they stole a new sink and our contractors tools...

<<<No pic - stuff got stolen>>>

Earlier they stole the copper wiring from the house and the developer installed sink...



I just don't understand why do they wan't to steal a TNB meter?? Now I'm thinking is an alarm and security patrol enuff coz we hired security patrol but we still get robbed...

I wanna beat up the person/persons already

What else can be done...

This post has been edited by aaronpang: Jul 10 2007, 11:27 AM

errr... may i know where is ur house?
haih... nowadays everyday also got cases :-S

is ur house occupied?

Taman Puchong Utama... the area bordering Kim Hartamas and Bandar Puteri... true everywhere also got cases but getting broken into 4 times is a bit too much.

The cops are useless lodge police report also I dun see any increased patrols or attempt to resolve the matter... I have to sendiri patrol at night to check on the houses

The house is not occupied only in August... we've started moving in partially and installing built in electrical applicances like fans, air conditioner and lights which is why we hired security.

The robbers are also bold they tried to steal the water filter in broad daylight and the neighbours contractor chased them away and security called us to inform what happened. That's why I still have pics of the water filter with the pipes cut.

I'm extremely worried about personal and family security esp. with so many cases of robbery cum murder when we move in something bad will happen.

This post has been edited by aaronpang: Jul 10 2007, 11:50 AM

OMG. Hope you manage to find the rascal. Looks like the house is just completed and under renovation.

I noticed you've not fixed grille yet.

Like I've mentioned in this forum before, first thing to do ...install grille.
Anything that is accessible from outside the grille, only fix when occupied (if possible)

TNB meter..kena stolen becoz always TNB got shortage. takda meter...takda supply....itu contractor beli simpan lor...

same thing will happen to water meter...even the stand for the meter also they potong to sell as scrap! The worst is, they even will pull out all the wiring from the conduits...then you have to replace wire for whole house using external casing(so ugly)...unless you want to hack the wall and kena plaster balik and repaint....hear cash register ringing!!!

Kalau boelh...simpan even the man-hole cover near the backlane...put only when you shift in.

All these 'scrape' thieves are a different group from those who rob occupants of their valuables...they usually operate from unoccupied premises.

Good advice, grill installed already we put those in first...

The picture with the sink missing was when we first got the keys from the developer. I posted it in this thread Defect Rectification Checklist

We later installed the grill and thought our problems would be over. However the thief still managed to get inside and steal the newer sink and power tools.

The thief didn't bother to cut the hardened padlocks instead they cut the padlock ears on the grill, where you place the padlock through and got into the house.

Cunning SOB's

OIC now I know why someone would want to steal a TNB meter coz I tot it wasn't worth much value to ppl...

you should get those anti cutting metal cover for the locks, since your not living there then u should put few more extra locks. get a security alarm system, when they invade your house the alarm goes off the alarm will call you... get the security guard there asap

for your water filter it's better if u add a metal casing for it too since it cost a lot

can still sell as scrap / replacement units. still worth something.

would you consider a dog?

and what about the neighouring houses, are they occupied? 4 times of break in. either they like you guys very much or you guys are just doing something wrong.

If u really wanna beat the crap out of him...buy a 5 step alu ladder as a bait. those alu ladders fetch a high price in the scrap market. get guys around the house and wait. some rice sacks do good as well to cover up tht sob's face.

i got my stuffs stolen in broad daylight just after i chained my dog up for half a day and went to midvalley.

How about your neighbours?

It seems that you've been specifically targetted

Yalor taken further steps to secure the house before we move in... this is like an arms race already, just keep escelating. and we have to fork out money to replace the stolen goods and beef up security

Alarm currently not working... no electricity and we haven't fixed a phone line.

As for the locks instead of locking the padlock on the outside of the grill we now lock it from the inside so it's difficult to use metal cutters to cut the padlock ears.

We've also installed a cement anchor into the ground and bolted the water filter onto it...

We're getting the electrician to restore power to the house today and we'll keep all the lights in the house turned on.

Hopefully a brightly lit house will keep them at bay coz the thief cannot hide in the dark...

The row that the house is located has about 8 empty house (1 occupied, 1 empty, 4 under renovation and 2 for sale) in one stretch...

Why thief like us so much I don't know but I certainly don't like them .

Got a big doggy he's at our current rented house... recovering from a poisoning attempt...

Car thief who stole the next door neighbours Harrier poisoned him. The night the Harrier was stolen our dog was barking and following morning he cannot walk at all...

Blood test and the vet confirmed he's suffering from liver and kidney damage... a sure sign of poisoning.

The thief nearly killed my dog

I looked over the neighbours fence as well and their TNB meter also gone just bare wires now... I don't think they'll notice anytime soon coz its for SALE.

perhaps it's best to wait for people to move in first before doing renovation.

or move in first then renovate.

then again there's plenty of horror stories of new housing areas.

TNB meters always the 1st to get stolen. When i 1st bought my new house, the 1st thing i did was to buy the padlock for the meter. In 1 week's time, all the meters which were not locked got stolen...only locked meters not stolen. i guess the thieves lazy wanna do the extra work.

Thieves nowdays are getting very very brave ler. they r robbing people and houses in broaddaylights oredi. One hot afternoon, someone rammed into my neighbour's gate and stole all his hardware which is located outside the house. My friend who lives few houses away, was a targetted at 7am by two guys in bike with parangs.

Maybe u shd gather your housing area people to setup a rukun tetangga or something. Security guards......hiezz sad to say but some are always sleeping. Maybe hire more guards.

Few months back when my bro was renovating his house.
The thieves even dare to come in to the house (3 ppl working inside) & stole 2 handphones.

Few days later, broke in at night & stole the contractor's tools (electrical hammer, drill & angle grinder).

And then when installing grille, stole a 12-step aluminium ladder in the front yard.

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Added on July 11, 2007, 3:57 amSecurity patrol is not enough.

The important part, is how many entrance the area have & does each & every entrance got security guards there to check each & every vehicle entering & exiting.

There's a new housing estate in Kelana Jaya (next to Putra LRT base). The developer opened 1 entry only & with guards (the other all fenced up). So for 12 months, the area is secured. But as soon as the project received CF, the guards were withdrawn. And I start seeing the vacant houses got broken in one-by-one. Aluminium windows, doors, shower head etc...... stolen.

This post has been edited by scorgio: Jul 11 2007, 03:57 AM

fcuk these thieves... i hope that we could caught these b@st@rd and beat them up nicely...

OT - my car was broke into last week and I lost my laptop including all valuable items in the laptop bag. this happen in Kajang at the famous sate store Hj Samuri parking lot. I'm worried also as all the house keys is also inside the bags.

Is the developer Hillcrest which is a subsidary of Glomac? I thought that township is pretty self contained already, with developments started a few years ago. So, its definately not that hulu hulu places like in Bangi, right?

Another is that, if you are not desperate to move in e.g getting married or rental house lease expiring, why are you the first few ones to start moving in there. If you are facing the problem as of now, just imagine living there in fear when you moved in and your other neighbors are not fully occupied.

On the other hand, are you that Datuk Aaron Pang, the CEO from one of the top IT companies in Malaysia?

This post has been edited by auelton: Jul 12 2007, 09:48 AM

Yup Hillcrest... the township itself is well established already the phase purchased is Puchong Utama 10B newly completed and just handover the keys in Feb'07.

Its isolated in a way because PU10B its at the very edge of the development.

You're right I'm in a rush to move in and I don't have much choice because the current house is rented for nearly a decade but the landlord wants to sell.

Right now we're living there but got for SALE sign everywhere Quite annoying also when the agent brings people over and we're still there... invasion of privacy IMHO

I'm quite fearful...

Does anyone know how to go about getting police to come patrol and visit house regularly.

I've noticed some people's house got a blue postbox with the word POLIS on it and a police patrol will visit and sign a logbook regularly.

Oh no no I'm not that person...

This post has been edited by aaronpang: Jul 12 2007, 12:17 PM

Well, if you are in a hurry to move in, then no say leh. Have to face these consequences.

Im not very sure, but the Polis Box is only meant for the VIPs right. But you dont have to worry mah, Dato Aaron. You can easily get connections to have to blue box and a patrol unit ronda your house every 2 hours.

A lot other people also put the box there for DECOR only.

can we go a grill on the tnb eletric box? i thought we cannot touch?

nowadays alot of ppl stealing metal gates etc.... now metal price is high, so ppl scrape it. ur front gate also they steal ar! come with a lorry... uncap ur hinges to ur gate, then 2 fella haul the gate up on the lorry on off it goes.... ur house will be like in the states... un-gated. nojoke...

another tip is also install a dead stopper on the gate hinge. if ur doing auto gate, u can ask the person to install it for u. cost bobut RM100++ but its worth it (i think). but jumping in the house stealing tnb box water are a scary thought. if u have water filter outside ur house also u must lock it down. haih....

u can ask ur neighbourhood police station to make round when ur off overseas. they will come and check twice a day but if the police are marked, once they turn round go off, the theives come in also they cannot do anything ade.... its a risk. everything is....

we jus afraid those police aso one of the gang

security guard also thief. normally i find new residence are IDIOTS. They started paying to the guards not finding out the co background. by doing this, they had established their presence int he area.

by right, all landed house also must form a community to hire a vetted security guards not just a guy who just wear a uniform easily .

some of the guard were so familiar with the housing estate that one day if they have left the co or collecting not enough fund, they will rob to frighten the resident. they knew your house is empty.

thats y i always install CCTV outside and also have alarm system. until now , they still demand for monthly fees from me. i did not pay them at all because this is not their job, its the police work.

But police are smart, they always commented, that this is the Community fight and must form a rukun tetangga to fight crime. those dumb ass think that we dont have to work in the afternoon

How about electrocution? LOL.. Just kidding...

Btw, have you dial 999 so far?
or...
Have you report this to newspaper? e.g. The Star
Or send the photo to the The Star
or ...
Install spy camera
or ...
Hire reliable security guard


This post has been edited by arthurlwf: Jan 26 2008, 01:06 AM

@TS

shift into a gated and guarded community lor

examples would be YTL lake edge, or Austral lor since near ur place

TS u can try raising a dog.. not thos chiwawa type la.. u need at least a rottweiller

my neighbors dog was fed with rat poison stuffed into a egg last year, unfortunately the dog died, and the house was broken into.

and it was a Doberman :S

This post has been edited by bryanyeo87: Jan 26 2008, 01:35 PM

didn't ur hse got security alert?
get a fake CCTV to scare them LOL

given an average IT person, with some security system knowledge, most security systems can be disabled in 25seconds or less, depending on the alarm type(easily guessed from the little alarm box outside the house)

wanna give it a try?

That is a guard dogs duty... no higher an honour than defending home and family!

Thats true people with the right knowledge would be able to disable most alarms but I doubt most would go through the trouble...

More expensive systems are tamper proof so attempts to disable it externally will trigger the alarm...

The alarm my family has installed comes with a backup battery and backup siren. Even if you cut the power or tamper with outside alarm it will still sound the siren and call our mobile phones.

my front door has no grill and i always make it look so easy for the thief. Guess wat! they were afraid of my trap and so far so good. even if they try. all my luxury things already kept in a Bank safe.

i setup alarm system and CCTV, my respond time to triggered alarm is less than 20 minutes.

Where's ur house? i may like to take this as a challenge.

get at least 2 dogs, i had a rottweiler front of the house, and one at the back...

haha!! if i let you know, you have to die.

Your area is not gated community? With guard presence sometime, can chase away those potential robbers.

My dad install those cheap proximity sensor at car porch - when someone come close, the porch light will automatically switched on. Works like charm, havent fail

sensor light work at night time only.

I think they are small robbers... like indonesian worker whom trying to get extra 100 bucks pocket money. Be careful with these people

Looks like my luck is no better than yours, I stay in Kinrara for 8 years, can you imagine my house was broken into for 5 times. Everytime they cause damage to my house roof and ceiling, and ya reported to police, and they didn't help at all. The dam police just advise me to move out. The police think that we are rich, can just move out of house as we wish. Sometime we were force to buy house in some unsafe area due to tight budget,rather than keep on renting house. Buying your own house make yourself feel at home except if there is frequent break-in and your family is fear for safety, then I think our police is dam useless.

My house is fitted with complete security system from roof to internal but still the dam thief keep break-in my house. Last two days, my neighbour house was broken into, 2 pieces of big ceiling sheet were broken, his business money was stolen and the whole house is ransacked. All the drawer were damage. This neighbour of mine isn't rich and well to do, poor fella now have to fix all the damage.

My area i can only see police do rondaan around taman by driving around "makan angin", all the backlane which most criminal commit their activity, the police never go. Looks like all the hyper about the police increase of effectiveness is useless.

This post has been edited by Tohsan: Mar 27 2008, 04:40 PM

SOmetimes, we just feel that the patrol is not enough ... rather, the police force is not good enough to perform their duty well. This is the reason we had so many issues that the owner take justice into their own hands. Probably, should give them 15 years jail if caught.

Stealing metal gate is definitely unbelievable. I think it must be either the developer accomplice or the contractor on that area who'd done it. Did you let other contractor apart from the dominated contractor to do your house job for you?

If I'm around my premises and someone just broke in, my first thought would be to decapitate him to protect myself. Well, before the last blow, i'll make my enquiries on why he access my premise

Sorry to hear about your troubles mate, at least so far touch wood my home has not got broken into after I've moved in.

If you have an RA (Residents Association) setup neighborhoods watch or engage security to patrol on regular basis.

Do what these folks at Subang have done Subang safety campaign!

My neighborhood has security and I feel a lot safer... example there was this one time someone in my house forgot to close the main gate, the security guard rang the bell in the middle of the night to let us know our front gate was wide open.

Your burglar is probably the same person, MO is always entering through the roof. Spend money to secure your roof. Here are a few things you can do:-

1) Install sheets of zinc (fire hazard) but zinc sheets make it difficult to get into your house via the roof because brute force is required.
2) Install wire mesh instead of zinc. A wire mesh should not pose a fire hazard and it has the added protection of zinc sheets.
3) Install a brick ceiling; my GF home ceiling is completely bricked.
4) Wishful thinking but you could install an electric fence in the roof and give that SOB a good jolt.

It's usually drug addicts, indons or that fella who buy/sell recycled metal. Kill them lah no loss to society

Stick their heads on a pole outside your house as a warning to others burglars

This post has been edited by aaronpang: Apr 1 2008, 04:20 PM

nia ma.

thy SOB jz like ur hse ar ?
no other hse to rob meh ?

maybe the security inside ppl ??

>.<

sometimes, those thief are imposer as giving reason to police when they were asked what are they doing in front of the gate.... some thief use this reason "nak buka pintu saja, kunci tertinggal dekat dalam rumah..." only fooled police would trust them....

Comparing between local & Nepal guard, anybody have an idea which can provide better and reliable security service?
And wondering how much does it cost to hire local and Nepal guard?

get a hidden cctv

electrify your fences! put super amp to knock a cow out

hidden CCTV might helped in catching the thief, but chances are slim with our quality of police force. If the thief got caught also, chances are low again in recovering stolen items. The thief broke in because he didn't see anything that deter him from doing so.

A visible CCTV might give the law-breakers to think twice before committing the crime.