More parents are choosing international school
More parents are choosing international school
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Oct 30 2019, 09:09 AM, updated 7y ago
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Part 2: More parents are choosing international education in Malaysia SchoolAdvisor -October 30, 2019 8:30 AM 47 Shares 39 Although there are several tiers of international schools in Malaysia based on their fee structure, the fact remains that private and international schools are more expensive than public schools. Malaysian parents are ready to compromise on their lifestyle and give up on some luxuries to give their children an international education. Huang Paik Ling first enrolled her three children into a Chinese national school but later decided to move them to an international school instead. She says, “My children struggled with the medium of teaching as we do not speak the language at home. I also felt the curriculum had a one size fit all approach.” “The students are taught that there is only one way of problem solving, and that is the teacher’s way. Classes often have up to 45 kids, hence, teachers do not have the time to give personalised attention.” “As a result, the ones given attention are the ones who excel and ironically, the ones who need more help are neglected.” The school her children currently attend follow a more modernised method of teaching, where there is a heavy emphasis on values and character building. “Quality academics is a given hence this is definitely a plus point. Teachers are genuinely caring and don’t mind staying back after school on their own time to coach the weaker students.” Although she is concerned that her children might grow up feeling privileged and disengaged from the real world after attending an international school, she is more than happy she made the switch. “I am happy that my children are learning to think as opposed to being spoon fed,” she reasons. Language is the main reason Zaza Hasny made the switch from public to international school for her children. She shares, “My boys are better in English than Bahasa Malaysia and this made coping with the local syllabus harder for them.” “We found an international Islamic school that offers IGCSE curriculum with subjects taught in English, while also having routine Islamic studies. My boys are doing extremely well in this school.” For Junita, on the other hand, the reason for choosing an international school over a public school was more about giving her children global exposure while striking a balance between academics and extra-curricular activities. “The uncertainty and rapid changes in our local education system worries me. There should be more emphasis on English because, like it or not, it is a global language.” “But holding on to my roots is also important so I found an international school that puts emphasis on English but also upholds Asian values, so they are rather strict in terms of discipline.” “The school my children currently attend also places great value on a good balance of academics and sports which is vital to me. Sport plays a crucial role in instilling good sportsmanship, developing soft skills and learning to play/work as a team which I find very lacking in today’s young generation,” she elaborates. Private and international schools for holistic education Education, after all, is not just about academics but also building character, and educating a child takes three: school, parents and the child itself. The increasing number of international schools is good not only for expatriate parents and children but Malaysian families too. Local children attending these international schools are being exposed to a diverse curriculum, cultures and languages from a young age, helping them to grow to be true global citizens. Similarly, private schools can be a great option too although they will probably not have as diverse a classroom as an international school. Nevertheless, the point to note is that they provide a much-coveted global exposure with a local flavour, meaning your children get to be global citizens, but have their roots firmly in their own country |
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Oct 30 2019, 09:21 AM
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Rich people problem.
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Oct 30 2019, 09:24 AM
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study high high end up jadi grab.
wanna success..it all about connection and social skills... that y they send them to internation school. |
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Oct 30 2019, 09:24 AM
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Boley mampu spend 100k per annum per kid then why not lol
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Oct 30 2019, 09:28 AM
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Mostly can afford primary school, when move to secondary cannot afford have to sent back to sekolah menengah
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Oct 30 2019, 09:28 AM
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Ironically govt still struggle to recognize UEC when more and more ppl already ditch public school in other ways.
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Oct 30 2019, 09:33 AM
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First: They are rich
Second: Education in those SJK/SMK only can learn racist. |
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Oct 30 2019, 09:36 AM
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sacrifice so much for kids
later kids accidents dead left u alone or kids become midly sucesful and prig abandon u at folks home |
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Oct 30 2019, 09:37 AM
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Oct 30 2019, 09:37 AM
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It's ironic, during 50s through 60s, our education is top notch UK style. Schools like penang free school, st John etc all international standard, fees also cheap. Nowadays to get same education need to pay top dollar.
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Oct 30 2019, 09:41 AM
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What you pay is what you get. I've a kid in SK and that school is even a sekolah cemerlang but the teachers are hardly in class and no mandarin teacher for 3 years now. Whereas my other kid in private school, qualified dedicated teachers and they're even learning coding at Standard 1.
There is 3 type tiers schools, choose what you can afford. I'm only paying around 1.2k monthly school fees. This post has been edited by kkkw80: Oct 30 2019, 09:42 AM |
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QUOTE(fath82 @ Oct 30 2019, 09:28 AM) Mostly can afford primary school, when move to secondary cannot afford have to sent back to sekolah menengah Primary no need go International School lah. Lots of options nowadays from orang kaya International School (RM50k to RM100k+ a year), to middle class International School(anywhere from RM10k to RM50k) to cheap-cheap Homeschool (<rm10k a year).My son goes to a middle class International School as well, while my nephew goes to a HomeSchool (already completed his O-LEVEL), now studying in Taylor. |
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Oct 30 2019, 09:42 AM
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Oct 30 2019, 09:42 AM
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protek protek, international school for disrupting unity
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Oct 30 2019, 09:44 AM
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everything need money ....... * headache*
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can PM which skoll that price?
QUOTE(kkkw80 @ Oct 30 2019, 09:41 AM) What you pay is what you get. I've a kid in SK and that school is even a sekolah cemerlang but the teachers are hardly in class and no mandarin teacher for 3 years now. Whereas my other kid in private school, qualified dedicated teachers and they're even learning coding at Standard 1. There is 3 type tiers schools, choose what you can afford. I'm only paying around 1.2k monthly school fees. |
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Oct 30 2019, 09:45 AM
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ok la, learn in english better than malay.
now go stall or kopitiam or mamak, speak malay also the people dun understand coz mostly bangala and nepalese.. end up also just point here and there + some english. learn english at least easier later in the corporate world. as for malay, know how to read road signs good enough already. This post has been edited by brkli: Oct 30 2019, 09:46 AM |
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Oct 30 2019, 09:45 AM
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See, Malaysian salary all /k standard, can afford international school, why gov worry about Malaysia bankrupt
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Oct 30 2019, 09:47 AM
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enroll public school also pay extra with multiple subject tuition every month
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Oct 30 2019, 09:52 AM
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QUOTE(kkkw80 @ Oct 30 2019, 09:41 AM) What you pay is what you get. I've a kid in SK and that school is even a sekolah cemerlang but the teachers are hardly in class and no mandarin teacher for 3 years now. Whereas my other kid in private school, qualified dedicated teachers and they're even learning coding at Standard 1. damn 1.2k monthly rly 20k standardThere is 3 type tiers schools, choose what you can afford. I'm only paying around 1.2k monthly school fees. |
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Oct 30 2019, 09:56 AM
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QUOTE(kkkw80 @ Oct 30 2019, 09:41 AM) What you pay is what you get. I've a kid in SK and that school is even a sekolah cemerlang but the teachers are hardly in class and no mandarin teacher for 3 years now. Whereas my other kid in private school, qualified dedicated teachers and they're even learning coding at Standard 1. wow There is 3 type tiers schools, choose what you can afford. I'm only paying around 1.2k monthly school fees. bright future ur kids |
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QUOTE Huang Paik Ling first enrolled her three children into a Chinese national school but later decided to move them to an international school instead. She says, “My children struggled with the medium of teaching as we do not speak the language at home. I also felt the curriculum had a one size fit all approach.” “The students are taught that there is only one way of problem solving, and that is the teacher’s way. Classes often have up to 45 kids, hence, teachers do not have the time to give personalised attention.” “As a result, the ones given attention are the ones who excel and ironically, the ones who need more help are neglected.” The school her children currently attend follow a more modernised method of teaching, where there is a heavy emphasis on values and character building. “Quality academics is a given hence this is definitely a plus point. Teachers are genuinely caring and don’t mind staying back after school on their own time to coach the weaker students.” Provided you can pay for it, anything goes. 3 children at what? MYR 20k min? That's MYR60k after tax. Guess there are lots of cronies still, in Malaysia Must admit that the Chinese schools are like that. One way street. No thinking allowed! This post has been edited by prophetjul: Oct 30 2019, 09:58 AM |
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Im glad bumi got tongkat can enter mrsm.
Decent system, teacher, environment for relatively cheap price. |
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Oct 30 2019, 10:32 AM
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They dont want free comic?
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Oct 30 2019, 10:36 AM
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QUOTE(reed90 @ Oct 30 2019, 09:52 AM) Its considered affordable compared to BSKL 51k per year, Epsom 85k, ISKL 100k and this is for Year 1 max_cavalera liked this post
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Oct 30 2019, 10:40 AM
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You sure that article is not sponsored by the international schools council ah?
From what I heard through the grapevine, international and private schools are losing their appeal due to rising fee costs and also not being much better over national schools. Why spend over 50k-100k per year per child when you can save up that money and send the kid to Oxford or Yale when he/she gets to university age? |
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Oct 30 2019, 10:42 AM
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Oct 30 2019, 09:56 AM) Provided you can pay for it, anything goes. The fees go up as your kid gets older. Wait till you see the secondary school fees and all the extras that you have to buy. Mac books anyone? Lol.3 children at what? MYR 20k min? That's MYR60k after tax. Guess there are lots of cronies still, in Malaysia Must admit that the Chinese schools are like that. One way street. No thinking allowed! |
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Oct 30 2019, 10:45 AM
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My kid have swimming class at IGB International school at sh buloh.. nowonder parent willing to pay that amount.. top notch facilities
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QUOTE(friedricetheman @ Oct 30 2019, 10:42 AM) The fees go up as your kid gets older. Wait till you see the secondary school fees and all the extras that you have to buy. Mac books anyone? Lol. That's true.MYR20k is probably for primary school only. Understand someone 'local' run international schools are charging some MYR40 to 50k p annum. |
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Oct 30 2019, 10:53 AM
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me myself paid for my daughter:
Monthly : 1.1k Reg fee (every year) : 5k Reason being: the only school near my house that can send morning pickup around 6pm. With meals, co-co and clubs all paid for |
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Oct 30 2019, 10:57 AM
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T20 problem. Got money, no problem.
If got more money, instead of the kids going to school, bring the school to home (or mansion / palace). Teacher come over and teach at home. |
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Oct 30 2019, 10:58 AM
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QUOTE(sidthesloth @ Oct 30 2019, 09:37 AM) It's ironic, during 50s through 60s, our education is top notch UK style. Schools like penang free school, st John etc all international standard, fees also cheap. Nowadays to get same education need to pay top dollar. Because we are allowing politics inside education. Instead of focusing what the world needs, we focus on what the politicians wants. |
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Oct 30 2019, 11:05 AM
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QUOTE(BS8110 @ Oct 30 2019, 10:57 AM) T20 problem. Got money, no problem. I heard through the grapevine that it’s only the bottom 20% of the T20 and the top 20% of the M40 (upper middle class) are sending their kids to private and international schools. If got more money, instead of the kids going to school, bring the school to home (or mansion / palace). Teacher come over and teach at home. The elites are pulling their kids out of international and private schools. They are sending their kids to national schools to support our school curriculum system. |
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QUOTE(sidthesloth @ Oct 30 2019, 09:37 AM) It's ironic, during 50s through 60s, our education is top notch UK style. Schools like penang free school, st John etc all international standard, fees also cheap. Nowadays to get same education need to pay top dollar. not before the convert school become standard .... that where the quality drop |
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Oct 30 2019, 11:09 AM
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QUOTE(brkli @ Oct 30 2019, 10:45 AM) ok la, learn in english better than malay. mandrin.now go stall or kopitiam or mamak, speak malay also the people dun understand coz mostly bangala and nepalese.. end up also just point here and there + some english. learn english at least easier later in the corporate world. as for malay, know how to read road signs good enough already. |
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QUOTE(sidthesloth @ Oct 30 2019, 09:37 AM) It's ironic, during 50s through 60s, our education is top notch UK style. Schools like penang free school, st John etc all international standard, fees also cheap. Nowadays to get same education need to pay top dollar. Err. Inflation. last time ice cream 20 sen, nasi lemak 50 sen... Why inflation? blame capitalism. Owai Population also doubled since 50s 60s. Higher demand while supply maintained. ![]() QUOTE(kkkw80 @ Oct 30 2019, 09:41 AM) What you pay is what you get. I've a kid in SK and that school is even a sekolah cemerlang but the teachers are hardly in class and no mandarin teacher for 3 years now. Whereas my other kid in private school, qualified dedicated teachers and they're even learning coding at Standard 1. There is 3 type tiers schools, choose what you can afford. I'm only paying around 1.2k monthly school fees. |
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Oct 30 2019, 11:20 AM
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Study so high, kena kecam a bit in social media terus 14th floor
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Oct 30 2019, 11:20 AM
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if u can afford 1 why not? as long not sjk.lol
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QUOTE(limfreelance @ Oct 30 2019, 09:24 AM) study high high end up jadi grab. Most PH politicians and top business people are sending their kids to national schools now as they are leading by example. wanna success..it all about connection and social skills... that y they send them to internation school. The only connections your kids are gonna get by going to privately funded schools are either diplomat’s kids who will only be around for 1-2 years before they return back to their own country to be reassigned to another country/desk job or other upper middle class kids whose parents send them there in the hopes of getting connections. Lol. |
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Oct 30 2019, 11:26 AM
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I've studied in both government school and international. Honestly both has its own good and bad. I think experience both is the best. More friends to life. max_cavalera liked this post
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Oct 30 2019, 11:27 AM
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QUOTE(limfreelance @ Oct 30 2019, 09:24 AM) study high high end up jadi grab. Not rly.. The people you'll meet at international schools are actually lacking on social skills compared to smk tbh.wanna success..it all about connection and social skills... that y they send them to internation school. max_cavalera liked this post
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international school pun if the kids are bengap, entitled and lazy as fak, just waste money only max_cavalera liked this post
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Oct 30 2019, 11:29 AM
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With the things you see coming from the edu ministry, any sane man with money will switch.
You syiok syiok piap piap make anak, you bear a responsibility to raise them up to the best of your abilities. Don't say what kena kecam then suicide. That's just parents being out of touch with their kids. After they reach certain age, you've done your part. What happen to them is the consequences of their own action. |
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QUOTE(friedricetheman @ Oct 30 2019, 11:25 AM) Most PH politicians and top business people are sending their kids to national schools now as they are leading by example. cos many parents saw how jho low went to prestigious school in UK n got his arab connections thrThe only connections your kids are gonna get by going to privately funded schools are either diplomat’s kids who will only be around for 1-2 years before they return back to their own country to be reassigned to another country/desk job or other upper middle class kids whose parents send them there in the hopes of getting connections. Lol. these parents wan to folo the same thing n wan their children b the nex jho low n dun mind gambling hundreds of thousands or even millions for their children to hav a chance to get dat connection |
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Don't have kid from start. Imagine the money save to pay for a char siew, I can do so much. Want go kuda go Japan? Every 3 months saving can go.
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Oct 30 2019, 11:40 AM
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If i got the monies i'm gonna send my kids to prestigious sch like Jho Low. Make fren with the elites next time goyang kaki one phone call can transfer 100 million liao
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Oct 30 2019, 11:42 AM
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QUOTE(Sone Shin @ Oct 30 2019, 11:09 AM) Err. Inflation. last time ice cream 20 sen, nasi lemak 50 sen... Sent the 1st to SK and saw the bad state SK is, send 2nd to private school instead. Suggested 1st kid to pull out and join 2nd in private school but he didnt want due to his friends there. He will after he finishes his standard 6Why inflation? blame capitalism. Owai Population also doubled since 50s 60s. Higher demand while supply maintained. ![]() |
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Kebangsaan and vernacular raced base.
Private school and international school muhibbah. boleh tanya najib n hishamuddin n nazri. |
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QUOTE(drug5 @ Oct 30 2019, 11:40 AM) If i got the monies i'm gonna send my kids to prestigious sch like Jho Low. Make fren with the elites next time goyang kaki one phone call can transfer 100 million liao I believe its not all about money to get in there. You require connection as well bro. Please don't tell me got money got connection. There will always be people richer than you.. and Wharton Biz School.. you need to include different nationalities around the world who equally desire to send their kids there. |
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I have a friend who sent his son to one of the premier schools. Think 5k/month just for the fees and not including all the other activities. Had to withdraw him after 1 year and put him in a cheaper school.
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international schools are overrated la max_cavalera liked this post
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send kids to international school because they can't deal with the language.
way to breed entitled strawberries. This post has been edited by dares: Oct 30 2019, 12:01 PM |
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QUOTE(friedricetheman @ Oct 30 2019, 10:55 AM) You can get that sort of facilities by just joining a well known golf or country club. Even cheaper in the long run. Lol. true.. but is is embedded in the curricular of the school..during my kid class.. i just wander around to see the class room.. totally different.. the way they let the kid think.. art class |
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QUOTE(rooney723 @ Oct 30 2019, 11:30 AM) cos many parents saw how jho low went to prestigious school in UK n got his arab connections thr That’s why they are followers (aka sheeps) and not trendsetters or leaders. these parents wan to folo the same thing n wan their children b the nex jho low n dun mind gambling hundreds of thousands or even millions for their children to hav a chance to get dat connection To tell you the truth, Jho Low went to a prestigious business school from a top Ivy League university in the states (Wharton). That’s where he build most of his connections from. QUOTE(ganz @ Oct 30 2019, 12:01 PM) true.. but is is embedded in the curricular of the school..during my kid class.. i just wander around to see the class room.. totally different.. the way they let the kid think.. art class Primary and Secondary education is just a place where you learn the basics. You don’t need to blow a chunk of your education budget on something so basic. It’s the university level education that matters more. |
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QUOTE(friedricetheman @ Oct 30 2019, 12:18 PM) That’s why they are followers (aka sheeps) and not trendsetters or leaders. To tell you the truth, Jho Low went to a prestigious business school from a top Ivy League university in the states (Wharton). That’s where he build most of his connections from. Primary and Secondary education is just a place where you learn the basics. You don’t need to blow a chunk of your education budget on something so basic. It’s the university level education that matters more. saw few post in FB abount next year standard 4 Math syllabus look like a doom.. those who are not math driven person difinetly will fail |
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QUOTE(ClericKilla @ Oct 30 2019, 11:43 AM) I believe its not all about money to get in there. Besides school fees, need to make donations to ahem ppl. You require connection as well bro. Please don't tell me got money got connection. There will always be people richer than you.. and Wharton Biz School.. you need to include different nationalities around the world who equally desire to send their kids there. These scandals are very well known. |
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QUOTE(ganz @ Oct 30 2019, 12:27 PM) saw few post in FB abount next year standard 4 Math syllabus look like a doom.. those who are not math driven person difinetly will fail What is “like a doom”? Anyways, my kids go to national schools and they don’t have any problem coping with the school syllabus. The teachers are also very dedicated and punctual. So far, we only experienced a class teacher who went on maternity leave but a substitute teacher was on hand to continue the lessons. |
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QUOTE(friedricetheman @ Oct 30 2019, 12:18 PM) To tell you the truth, Jho Low went to a prestigious business school from a top Ivy League university in the states (Wharton). That’s where he build most of his connections from. If Harrow School > UITM or UM then really topkek already huhu. |
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QUOTE(ClericKilla @ Oct 30 2019, 12:33 PM) He must be something as well from Uplands Penang > Harrow School UK My wife went to LSE in London from a national school. It happens all the time. If Harrow School > UITM or UM then really topkek already huhu. I have friends from Sri Cempaka who end up being less The point is that Jho Low’s parents were already well connected and quite rich before. You just can’t send your kids to international school and see your kids becoming multi billionaires in the near future. This post has been edited by friedricetheman: Oct 30 2019, 12:40 PM |
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QUOTE(friedricetheman @ Oct 30 2019, 12:18 PM) That’s why they are followers (aka sheeps) and not trendsetters or leaders. yeah, those sheeps, i rmb i was listening to radio and got 1 part the DJ interview a parent why she sent her children to international school, she say its not about the education quality or environment etc, she just want her children to build connections wif other rich ppl in the school and help her children succeed in future, she say jho low inspired her To tell you the truth, Jho Low went to a prestigious business school from a top Ivy League university in the states (Wharton). That’s where he build most of his connections from. Primary and Secondary education is just a place where you learn the basics. You don’t need to blow a chunk of your education budget on something so basic. It’s the university level education that matters more. |
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QUOTE(rooney723 @ Oct 30 2019, 12:40 PM) yeah, those sheeps, i rmb i was listening to radio and got 1 part the DJ interview a parent why she sent her children to international school, she say its not about the education quality or environment etc, she just want her children to build connections wif other rich ppl in the school and help her children succeed in future, she say jho low inspired her That’s the target demographics for private and internationals schools.The funny thing is that the only connections that her kids are going to make are with other like minded parent’s kids. Those who send their kids to these schools in the hopes of making good connections. Lol. Poor parents want their kids to become doctors or lawyers and on a full scholarship. When their kids cannot get Medical scholarship but instead got Food Science or Engineering, they cry and beat their chest on national newspapers. Middle class parents want their kids to get connections with VIPs. So they send their kids to expensive schools. Then, their kids end up becoming DJs or part of the Actor’s Studio’s lighting crew due to the encouragement they get to “do what they love” and “be themselves”. This post has been edited by friedricetheman: Oct 30 2019, 12:49 PM max_cavalera liked this post
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QUOTE(friedricetheman @ Oct 30 2019, 12:48 PM) That’s the target demographics for private and internationals schools. and also even if there are rich ppl in international/private schools, those rich ppl wont mix wif middle class kids, they are very realistic ppl, so if lets say u are a middle class parent, u send ur children to private school hoping that he get connection, but in the end he kena ignored by those rich kids n have no friends thrThe funny thing is that the only connections that her kids are going to make are with other like minded parent’s kids. Those who send their kids to these schools in the hopes of making good connections. Lol. Poor parents want their kids to become doctors or lawyers and on a full scholarship. When their kids cannot get Medical scholarship but instead got Food Science or Engineering, they cry and beat their chest on national newspapers. Middle class parents want their kids to get connections with VIPs. So they send their kids to expensive schools. Then, their kids end up becoming DJs or part of the Actor’s Studio’s lighting crew due to the encouragement they get to “do what they love” and “be themselves”. i got 1 relative, he sent his son to private school from national school, before he went to private school, he is very down to earth guy, play games sports etc just like other kids, but after he went to private school, he totally changed, everything also wan branded, from top to toe all branded stuffs, and forced his parents to buy those expensive stuffs, he say if dont buy for him then his classmates will not mix wif him, damn sad really, every word coming out from his mouth is about money money money and branded stuffs. and worse thing is his parents is not rich, just middle class, and they have to fund his rich boy lifestyle, sometimes i also kesian them haihhh |
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QUOTE(friedricetheman @ Oct 30 2019, 12:48 PM) That’s the target demographics for private and internationals schools. So true. LOLThe funny thing is that the only connections that her kids are going to make are with other like minded parent’s kids. Those who send their kids to these schools in the hopes of making good connections. Lol. Poor parents want their kids to become doctors or lawyers and on a full scholarship. When their kids cannot get Medical scholarship but instead got Food Science or Engineering, they cry and beat their chest on national newspapers. Middle class parents want their kids to get connections with VIPs. So they send their kids to expensive schools. Then, their kids end up becoming DJs or part of the Actor’s Studio’s lighting crew due to the encouragement they get to “do what they love” and “be themselves”. In one particular international school I know, there's a group of rough-looking Mandarin speaking students (they are also known as the troublemakers in school) who click together and they ended up speaking Mandarin every single day despite the school policy requiring all students to speak English in school. I don't know what's the point of they being in that school. |
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Bodo la class with 40++ ppl are much healthier than class with less than 10 ppl. At least u can choose friends, communicate with other groups of ppl, and negotiation bargain.
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Need to think of which university parents can send their kids to if they dont plan to sit for SPM
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QUOTE(rooney723 @ Oct 30 2019, 12:40 PM) yeah, those sheeps, i rmb i was listening to radio and got 1 part the DJ interview a parent why she sent her children to international school, she say its not about the education quality or environment etc, she just want her children to build connections wif other rich ppl in the school and help her children succeed in future, she say jho low inspired her This is what a relative of mine is doing now. She got many kids, but send the most prettiest kid into intl, despite household income about 15k. She needs to thank her lucky stars that her kind mil in village never take any care-taking fees for all her remainder kids. Yes, she groom only one and all other kids dumped in village. |
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QUOTE(BS8110 @ Oct 30 2019, 10:57 AM) T20 problem. Got money, no problem. Then u lack social unless ur kid is male n teach is 30s which which sbe can also teach social If got more money, instead of the kids going to school, bring the school to home (or mansion / palace). Teacher come over and teach at home. |
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QUOTE(shuhuan @ Oct 30 2019, 01:29 PM) This is what a relative of mine is doing now. She got many kids, but send the most prettiest kid into intl, despite household income about 15k. She needs to thank her lucky stars that her kind mil in village never take any care-taking fees for all her remainder kids. Yes, she groom only one and all other kids dumped in village. pretty got chance to get rich bf in intl school, in future duneed work cn be rich tai tai lol |
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QUOTE(rooney723 @ Oct 30 2019, 12:58 PM) and also even if there are rich ppl in international/private schools, those rich ppl wont mix wif middle class kids, they are very realistic ppl, so if lets say u are a middle class parent, u send ur children to private school hoping that he get connection, but in the end he kena ignored by those rich kids n have no friends thr i got 1 relative, he sent his son to private school from national school, before he went to private school, he is very down to earth guy, play games sports etc just like other kids, but after he went to private school, he totally changed, everything also wan branded, from top to toe all branded stuffs, and forced his parents to buy those expensive stuffs, he say if dont buy for him then his classmates will not mix wif him, damn sad really, every word coming out from his mouth is about money money money and branded stuffs. and worse thing is his parents is not rich, just middle class, and they have to fund his rich boy lifestyle, sometimes i also kesian them haihhh QUOTE(Blofeld @ Oct 30 2019, 01:09 PM) So true. LOL In one particular international school I know, there's a group of rough-looking Mandarin speaking students (they are also known as the troublemakers in school) who click together and they ended up speaking Mandarin every single day despite the school policy requiring all students to speak English in school. I don't know what's the point of they being in that school. QUOTE(shuhuan @ Oct 30 2019, 01:29 PM) This is what a relative of mine is doing now. She got many kids, but send the most prettiest kid into intl, despite household income about 15k. She needs to thank her lucky stars that her kind mil in village never take any care-taking fees for all her remainder kids. Yes, she groom only one and all other kids dumped in village. How connected you become boils down to dumb luck. Plain and simple.I never actively seek out well connected people nor did my parents cared about getting strong cables. They always wanted me to be happy in life and to try my best. But somehow I ended up marrying into a well connected family by sheer dumb luck. She was low profile and didn’t even mentioned who her dad was until after our first year of dating seriously. I have also yet to ask my FIL for any favors of any kind and am planning not to for as long as I live. I fall into the middle class bracket if anyone is wondering. So I am not part of /k 20k a month demographics. I earn around a quarter of that amount only. This post has been edited by friedricetheman: Oct 30 2019, 02:01 PM |
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QUOTE(friedricetheman @ Oct 30 2019, 12:36 PM) My wife went to LSE in London from a national school. It happens all the time. LSE is top but not difficult to get in. Usually follow KC > LSE path I have friends from Sri Cempaka who end up being less The point is that Jho Low’s parents were already well connected and quite rich before. You just can’t send your kids to international school and see your kids becoming multi billionaires in the near future. To enter Harrow or Eton or Westminster high school you gotta be either super smart or well connected that was my point. |
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QUOTE(ClericKilla @ Oct 30 2019, 02:05 PM) LSE is top but not difficult to get in. Usually follow KC > LSE path Why are you comparing schools with universities?To enter Harrow or Eton or Westminster high school you gotta be either super smart or well connected that was my point. But yes, you have a point there. So, in conclusion, can we say that Jho Low was rich and well connected even BEFORE he went to Harrow? |
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QUOTE(friedricetheman @ Oct 30 2019, 02:07 PM) Why are you comparing schools with universities? I'm suggesting the timeline from Uplands > Harrow already determined that you're either super smart , rich and well connected.But yes, you have a point there. So, in conclusion, can we say that Jho Low was rich and well connected even BEFORE he went to Harrow? I'm not disagreeing your point there but i'd think its silly when reading comments here 'if i have money.. ill definitely send my kids to top unis like jho low' kek.. As if it is effortless. |
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Ni sampah punya artikel. Mana research and findings?
Lot of org kaya stil send their children to sekolah kebangsaan la. Private school nak jd spoil brat, anakku sazali boleh la hantar to private school This post has been edited by oc_rooney: Oct 30 2019, 02:17 PM |
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QUOTE(rooney723 @ Oct 30 2019, 01:43 PM) If all goes well, this is the plan. But the family of her mil is quite angry over the situation. Her pitiful mil gets no money no helper, single handed have to care for so many kids, her house is practically a kindergarten with no personal life. Cooking and getting grocery is a trouble without money and help. People who barely knows this relative thought she only one kid since rest dumped in village. |
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QUOTE(ClericKilla @ Oct 30 2019, 02:14 PM) I'm suggesting the timeline from Uplands > Harrow already determined that you're either super smart , rich and well connected. To me, it all boils down to luck. You may have the worst upbringing and grew up dirt poor in the slums, but if Lady Luck shines upon you, you will rise up and become a world beater.I'm not disagreeing your point there but i'd think its silly when reading comments here 'if i have money.. ill definitely send my kids to top unis like jho low' kek.. As if it is effortless. |
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QUOTE(friedricetheman @ Oct 30 2019, 02:30 PM) To me, it all boils down to luck. You may have the worst upbringing and grew up dirt poor in the slums, but if Lady Luck shines upon you, you will rise up and become a world beater. Now you're speaking about the low probability cases. Also cannot disregard in the entire data set. |
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QUOTE(ClericKilla @ Oct 30 2019, 02:33 PM) Nah dude. I had the shittiest of luck growing up. If there was ever a chance of getting struck by lightning while standing in a bus stop , I would be it (and I was stuck by lightning, funnily enough with an old entry and exit scar to show). I grew up in a poor family. Lived in a wooden shack with zinc roof until I was old enough to go to kindie. That was when my parents saved up enough money to rent a place in a really rough part of town. My clothes and shoes were always much bigger as I was supposed to grow into them. Imagine being a standard one kid with oversized uniform and when I hit Standard 6, my buttons were stretched and popping out. When I look back, I smile as I see how far I have come. This post has been edited by friedricetheman: Oct 30 2019, 02:40 PM |
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QUOTE(friedricetheman @ Oct 30 2019, 02:40 PM) Nah dude. If that makes you feel grateful for the present reflecting back. I had the shittiest of luck growing up. If there was ever a chance of getting struck by lightning while standing in a bus stop , I would be it (and I was stuck by lightning, funnily enough with an old entry and exit scar to show). I grew up in a poor family. Lived in a wooden shack with zinc roof until I was old enough to go to kindie. That was when my parents saved up enough money to rent a place in a really rough part of town. My clothes and shoes were always much bigger as I was supposed to grow into them. Imagine being a standard one kid with oversized uniform and when I hit Standard 6, my buttons were stretched and popping out. When I look back, I smile as I see how far I have come. You obviously know the low probability above I meant is people who got luck + got into top unis in the world - Harvard, Oxford, Cambridge and others.. My parents too didn't have an easy life but i don't comment or blame them for that. |
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QUOTE(shuhuan @ Oct 30 2019, 02:23 PM) If all goes well, this is the plan. haha quite an asshole mum alsoBut the family of her mil is quite angry over the situation. Her pitiful mil gets no money no helper, single handed have to care for so many kids, her house is practically a kindergarten with no personal life. Cooking and getting grocery is a trouble without money and help. People who barely knows this relative thought she only one kid since rest dumped in village. |
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QUOTE(oc_rooney @ Oct 30 2019, 02:17 PM) Ni sampah punya artikel. Mana research and findings? My plan is to send my kids ton kebangsaan so they know what it means to be Malaysian, then private school when menengah so they know what it means to be more global.Lot of org kaya stil send their children to sekolah kebangsaan la. Private school nak jd spoil brat, anakku sazali boleh la hantar to private school Reach university age they can choose. |
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QUOTE(friedricetheman @ Oct 30 2019, 02:07 PM) Why are you comparing schools with universities? He was. His grandfather and father were among one of the wealthiest in Penang.But yes, you have a point there. So, in conclusion, can we say that Jho Low was rich and well connected even BEFORE he went to Harrow? |
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QUOTE(friedricetheman @ Oct 30 2019, 03:53 PM) lol. Hence your insistence on cheap “thrills”. Thrill seekers usually try to fill the void in their lives with “thrills”. It’s a well known documented fact. keep lol-ing, showing how thriledl you can be with my comments and keep it documented coz it sure is fact too. |
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they can close vernacular school.. and this is where ppl will go.. go to any commercial area... sure got IGCSE centre... this is the cheapest option...
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QUOTE(bronkos @ Oct 30 2019, 04:06 PM) Lol. Your bar is quite low if you consider a middle class person like myself as “most successful”. Is this what they teach you guys in private/international schools? To strive for mediocrity? Even I believe that I still have a lot of room for improvement. Didn’t know that private/international school types like yourself aspire to ape the middle class lifestyle.. This post has been edited by friedricetheman: Oct 30 2019, 04:18 PM |
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QUOTE(friedricetheman @ Oct 30 2019, 04:14 PM) Lol. Your bar is quite low if you consider a middle class person like myself as “most successful”. what a low esteem chap. won't blame on your alma mater but on urself.Is this what they teach you guys in private/international schools? To strive for mediocrity? |
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QUOTE(bronkos @ Oct 30 2019, 04:19 PM) Lol. Now you are trying to imply that just because I am middle class, I have low self esteem? You have very deep seated psychological issues if you think that being middle class = low self esteem.. This post has been edited by friedricetheman: Oct 30 2019, 05:28 PM |
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You don't actually have to send your kids to international schools. Of course it's better than a regular school. But what's more important is the reputation and the connections your children can make in the school you sent them to. Anak siapa ada kat situ, or the chance of your children to be sent to top universities in the world, that's what's more important in the future
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QUOTE(friedricetheman @ Oct 30 2019, 05:08 PM) Lol. Now you are trying to imply that just because I am middle class, I have low self esteem? what a shame. From low esteem to psychologist wannabe. What's next? Fortune teller?You have very deep seated psychological issues if you think being middle class = low self esteem.. |
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QUOTE(bronkos @ Oct 30 2019, 05:30 PM) Lol. And that is the mark of a troll. Can’t think of a comeback line so have to resort to personal attacks.I actually pity you. I bet deep down inside, you feel such emptiness that you resort to getting your thrills from bullying other forumers online. This post has been edited by friedricetheman: Oct 30 2019, 05:32 PM |
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QUOTE(kkkw80 @ Oct 30 2019, 10:36 AM) Its considered affordable compared to BSKL 51k per year, Epsom 85k, ISKL 100k and this is for Year 1 Yes, some so called International schools do not even have their own campus or swimming pool. Open in shop lots but at least curriculum is much better than SRK or SJK. Most parents forgo overseas holidays, driving local cars instead of contis to ensure their children have a good foundation by sending to proper International schools. Local schools only teach you to hafal and not to fikir. I did part of my education in SMK and later overseas and saw so much difference. Here I was in last position in class but overseas, top 3 in class and yes, I graduated with 1st class honours. Nowadays, even with parents sending to chinese schools first then Intl colleges, the kids come to work without any knowledge but good results from univ only. We have to re-teach them and them they leave for higher salary in another compeni. |
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Oct 30 2019, 05:47 PM
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Oct 30 2019, 05:51 PM
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QUOTE(pgsiemkia @ Oct 30 2019, 05:46 PM) Yes, some so called International schools do not even have their own campus or swimming pool. Open in shop lots but at least curriculum is much better than SRK or SJK. That’s the old KBSM syllabus. The kids in national schools nowadays are now being molded into well rounded individuals. My son is gently encouraged to take one sports/physical and one other extra co-curriculum activity by his school. Most parents forgo overseas holidays, driving local cars instead of contis to ensure their children have a good foundation by sending to proper International schools. Local schools only teach you to hafal and not to fikir. I did part of my education in SMK and later overseas and saw so much difference. Here I was in last position in class but overseas, top 3 in class and yes, I graduated with 1st class honours. Nowadays, even with parents sending to chinese schools first then Intl colleges, the kids come to work without any knowledge but good results from univ only. We have to re-teach them and them they leave for higher salary in another compeni. Their teachers also stressed critical thinking in class and bring them on school trips to the national science center and even a petting zoo. National schools are now very different from the old days. |
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Oct 30 2019, 05:58 PM
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QUOTE(friedricetheman @ Oct 30 2019, 05:51 PM) That’s the old KBSM syllabus. The kids in national schools nowadays are now being molded into well rounded individuals. My son is gently encouraged to take one sports/physical and one other extra co-curriculum activity by his school. trololol..... from low esteem to high esteem father? stop bragging how smart ur kid is. if he is smart, he doesn't need you to promote.Their teachers also stressed critical thinking in class and bring them on school trips to the national science center and even a petting zoo. National schools are now very different from the old days. |
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QUOTE(pgsiemkia @ Oct 30 2019, 05:46 PM) Yes, some so called International schools do not even have their own campus or swimming pool. Open in shop lots but at least curriculum is much better than SRK or SJK. sometimes its down to individual also, not every student who went to international school will become better like ur case, its all down to attitude also, if that student is lazy n not the bright type, u send him to the best school also he will still flunk his studies wanMost parents forgo overseas holidays, driving local cars instead of contis to ensure their children have a good foundation by sending to proper International schools. Local schools only teach you to hafal and not to fikir. I did part of my education in SMK and later overseas and saw so much difference. Here I was in last position in class but overseas, top 3 in class and yes, I graduated with 1st class honours. Nowadays, even with parents sending to chinese schools first then Intl colleges, the kids come to work without any knowledge but good results from univ only. We have to re-teach them and them they leave for higher salary in another compeni. n i have seen more ppl who end up becoming worse or didnt improve at all after switching to international or private schools, its like 10 ppl who study in int school n 1 or 2 excelled n we say int school is so gud it improves the student etc |
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last time kids that kick out from school only study in international school
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Oct 30 2019, 06:28 PM
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QUOTE(limfreelance @ Oct 30 2019, 09:24 AM) study high high end up jadi grab. true, i got double degree in engineer from world top 20s university.wanna success..it all about connection and social skills... that y they send them to internation school. but now i earn RM4k in malaysia only, starting from RM2k few yrs ago in penang. |
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QUOTE(bronkos @ Oct 30 2019, 05:58 PM) trololol..... from low esteem to high esteem father? stop bragging how smart ur kid is. if he is smart, he doesn't need you to promote. Look. I know you have really low self esteem right now as your parents spent a fortune on you but you ended up being a nobody.It’s okay. I understand where you are coming from. The important thing now is that you should realize that it’s never too late to make something out of your life. Don’t give up on life. Hang in there. Befrienders are just a phone call away if you feel empty inside and need someone to talk to. Don’t succumb to cheap thrills you get from pretending to be all nasty and shit. Deep down inside, I know you are a very nice person. |
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QUOTE(bereev @ Oct 30 2019, 06:13 PM) +1There is still that stigma among the elites and industry captains. They still believe that private schools are for kids who failed their exams or got kicked out due to disciplinary problems. |
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Oct 30 2019, 06:38 PM
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QUOTE(friedricetheman @ Oct 30 2019, 06:34 PM) Look. I know you have really low self esteem right now as your parents spent a fortune on you but you ended up being a nobody. another prediction from the father who brags about his smart ass son. It’s okay. I understand where you are coming from. The important thing now is that you should realize that it’s never too late to make something out of your life. Don’t give up on life. Hang in there. Befrienders are just a phone call away if you feel empty inside and need someone to talk to. Don’t succumb to cheap thrills you get from pretending to be all nasty and shit. Deep down inside, I know you are a very nice person. typical 14 floor client when his son turns out not what is expected. This post has been edited by bronkos: Oct 30 2019, 06:39 PM |
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QUOTE(skeith @ Oct 30 2019, 06:28 PM) true, i got double degree in engineer from world top 20s university. It’s enough lah. Our EPF money is rolling on compound interest as we speak. No other western country in the world have a government whom help us to invest a portion of our income and guarantee us returns. but now i earn RM4k in malaysia only, starting from RM2k few yrs ago in penang. That’s why I love Malaysia. We don’t have very high income taxes. And our government helps us invest part of our money for our retirement and with great returns too. And best of all, it’s free. Our brethren overseas all have to either pay a financial consultant or DIY when it comes to investing for retirement. |
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QUOTE(friedricetheman @ Oct 30 2019, 06:36 PM) +1 Not anymore now. Well if your kid manage to go to SK cluster schools, then good, else all the best being in most SK and some SRJK.There is still that stigma among the elites and industry captains. They still believe that private schools are for kids who failed their exams or got kicked out due to disciplinary problems. This post has been edited by ze2: Oct 30 2019, 06:42 PM |
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QUOTE(bronkos @ Oct 30 2019, 06:38 PM) another prediction from the father who brags about his smart ass son. Usually people who ask other people to 14 floor tend to end up 14 floor themselves. All the more reason to call Befrienders.typical 14 floor client when his son turns out not what is expected. Also, I heard that those depressed individuals usually have the tendency to want to have the last words in an argument. |
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QUOTE(friedricetheman @ Oct 30 2019, 06:43 PM) Usually people who ask other people to 14 floor tend to end up 14 floor themselves. All the more reason to call Befrienders. Most often those who advice others to call befrienders ends up themselves calling the helpline.Also, I heard that those depressed individuals usually have the tendency to want to have the last words in an argument. |
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QUOTE(ze2 @ Oct 30 2019, 06:42 PM) Not anymore now. Well if your kid manage to go to SK cluster schools, then good, else all the best being in most SK and some SRJK. The stigma is returning though.I have seen a lot of politician’s grandkids going to national schools nowadays. You will be able to spot them during going home time as they wait patiently outside the school to pick up their grandkids. |
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QUOTE(friedricetheman @ Oct 30 2019, 06:43 PM) Usually people who ask other people to 14 floor tend to end up 14 floor themselves. All the more reason to call Befrienders. Also, I heard that those depressed individuals usually have the tendency to want to have the last words in an argument. QUOTE(bronkos @ Oct 30 2019, 06:45 PM) |
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QUOTE(friedricetheman @ Oct 30 2019, 06:43 PM) Usually people who ask other people to 14 floor tend to end up 14 floor themselves. All the more reason to call Befrienders. Also, I heard that those depressed individuals usually have the tendency to want to have the last words in an argument. QUOTE(bronkos @ Oct 30 2019, 06:45 PM) QUOTE(bronkos @ Oct 30 2019, 06:48 PM) This post has been edited by friedricetheman: Oct 30 2019, 06:50 PM |
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QUOTE(friedricetheman @ Oct 30 2019, 06:46 PM) The stigma is returning though. Dunno man... But my kids PS long waiting list. Heard now entrance test you need to be at least 80+ to secure a place.I have seen a lot of politician’s grandkids going to national schools nowadays. You will be able to spot them during going home time as they wait patiently outside the school to pick up their grandkids. |
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QUOTE(ze2 @ Oct 30 2019, 06:50 PM) Dunno man... But my kids PS long waiting list. Heard now entrance test you need to be at least 80+ to secure a place. Garden International school is it? They do that because there are a lot of diplomat’s kids who are waiting to get in.Try some other international school instead. |
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QUOTE(ze2 @ Oct 30 2019, 06:53 PM) Ok. Well, then you have no choice but to wait.I have Australian and Singaporean friends whom enrolled their kids into Alice Smith School for primary education. This post has been edited by friedricetheman: Oct 30 2019, 06:58 PM |
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QUOTE(friedricetheman @ Oct 30 2019, 05:51 PM) That’s the old KBSM syllabus. The kids in national schools nowadays are now being molded into well rounded individuals. My son is gently encouraged to take one sports/physical and one other extra co-curriculum activity by his school. Yup, I was involved in school activities and sports than studies, end of year even though I passed my STPM, I still did not get a place in UM to read law but sastera, however I was given a place and full board with MIT to do IT. I turned them down and went to England to read Law because I saw no future in IT. That was 1986, lol!Their teachers also stressed critical thinking in class and bring them on school trips to the national science center and even a petting zoo. National schools are now very different from the old days. |
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QUOTE(friedricetheman @ Oct 30 2019, 05:51 PM) That’s the old KBSM syllabus. The kids in national schools nowadays are now being molded into well rounded individuals. My son is gently encouraged to take one sports/physical and one other extra co-curriculum activity by his school. https://nces.ed.gov/surveys/pisa/pisa2015/p...hlights_3_1.aspTheir teachers also stressed critical thinking in class and bring them on school trips to the national science center and even a petting zoo. National schools are now very different from the old days. This doesn't suggest they crap national schools have improved. |
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QUOTE(pgsiemkia @ Oct 30 2019, 08:35 PM) Yup, I was involved in school activities and sports than studies, end of year even though I passed my STPM, I still did not get a place in UM to read law but sastera, however I was given a place and full board with MIT to do IT. I turned them down and went to England to read Law because I saw no future in IT. That was 1986, lol! I see my classmates, those who are active in society that's really success in life. |
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QUOTE(kkkw80 @ Oct 30 2019, 09:41 AM) What you pay is what you get. I've a kid in SK and that school is even a sekolah cemerlang but the teachers are hardly in class and no mandarin teacher for 3 years now. Whereas my other kid in private school, qualified dedicated teachers and they're even learning coding at Standard 1. Why you play favourites for your children?There is 3 type tiers schools, choose what you can afford. I'm only paying around 1.2k monthly school fees. One send to good school while another to shit school later one of them hate you |
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QUOTE(pgsiemkia @ Oct 30 2019, 08:35 PM) Yup, I was involved in school activities and sports than studies, end of year even though I passed my STPM, I still did not get a place in UM to read law but sastera, however I was given a place and full board with MIT to do IT. I turned them down and went to England to read Law because I saw no future in IT. That was 1986, lol! But hey. In 1986, being a lawyer is all the rage from what I have heard from my aunties and uncles.QUOTE(BillCollector @ Oct 30 2019, 08:53 PM) https://nces.ed.gov/surveys/pisa/pisa2015/p...hlights_3_1.asp That’s because you are taking the national average which includes schools in the rural and interior areas of Malaysia.This doesn't suggest they crap national schools have improved. |
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QUOTE(dares @ Oct 30 2019, 12:00 PM) send kids to international school because they can't deal with the language. If you are learning a subject in a language you aren't fluent in, you are just setting up yourself for failure. way to breed entitled strawberries. Sure some might be able to cope and if they do cope, they benefit more, but most can't. |
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QUOTE(focusrite @ Oct 30 2019, 09:22 PM) If you are learning a subject in a language you aren't fluent in, you are just setting up yourself for failure. When there is a will, there is a way.Sure some might be able to cope and if they do cope, they benefit more, but most can't. I learned to speak most languages by just listening to my classmates in school. When we were young, our minds are like sponge. I picked up languages and dialects with ease in my youth by just interacting with my peers. I picked up some Francais and Espanyol along the way too by watching and listening to people talking to each other in a social setting. This post has been edited by friedricetheman: Oct 30 2019, 09:36 PM |
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QUOTE(friedricetheman @ Oct 30 2019, 09:32 PM) When there is a will, there is a way. I don't deny that, in fact, I think those who struggle and succeed would come out stronger than those that took the easy way.I learned to speak most languages by just listening to my classmates in school. When we were young, our minds are like sponge. I picked up languages and dialects with ease in my youth by just interacting with my peers. I picked up some Francais and Espanyol along the way too by watching and listening to people talking to each other in a social setting. I just don't think most would succeed. They just end up failing. My opinion is based on my own experience. I struggled a lot with school for most of my childhood and teen years because I went to Chinese schools. Changed to a English-medium school when I was halfway through secondary school and I did much better. Still not great since I'm not academically inclined but at least I wasn't at risk of being held back a year like when I was back at my previous school. |
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QUOTE(pgsiemkia @ Oct 31 2019, 10:51 AM) Yes bro...those are outwardly bold dare to take risks and challenges while the bookworms or memorizers of Q&A don't know much. Socail including gangsterism but not mobile games.Btw playing mobile games is not a sporting exercise.. Basically they learn to handle people at early age. |
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