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post Oct 30 2019, 09:07 AM, updated 7y ago

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-On 30 April 1975, the Vietnam War ended with the evacuation of the American Embassy and the fall of Saigon to the North Vietnamese Army.

-Millions of people tried to flee the new Communist rule in Vietnam. In May 1975, the first boat with 47 refugees arrived in Malaysia from Vietnam. They were called “boat people.”

-However, the number of boat people fleeing Vietnam was relatively small until 1978. Bidong Island was officially opened as a refugee camp on 8 August 1978 with 121 Vietnamese refugees.

-The capacity of the camp was said to be 4,500. Another 600 refugees arrived in August and thereafter the arrival of boats from Vietnam was a near daily occurrence.

-By January 1979, there were 18,000 Vietnamese on the island and by June 1979 it was said to be the most heavily populated place on earth with about 40,000 refugees crowded into a flat area hardly larger than a football field

-The arrival of new refugees to Bidong and other locations in Southeast Asia decreased after June 1979.

-A Geneva Convention held in July 1979 resulted in Vietnam agreeing to restrain the flow of refugees and the Southeast Asian countries agreeing to take all those who came to their shores provided that the Western countries guaranteed resettlement for the majority of them.

-By the time Bidong was closed as a refugee camp on 30 October 1991, about 250,000 Vietnamese had passed through or resided in the camp.

-With the closing of the camp, the remaining refugees in Malysia were repatriated back to Vietnam. The refugees strongly protested their forced repatriation. A total of 9,000 Vietnamese were repatriated between 1991 and 28 August 2005 when the last refugees departed for Vietnam.

-In 1999, the island was opened to tourism.

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post Oct 30 2019, 09:08 AM

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shouldve let some of them stayed. overseas vietnamese are some of the most hnngghh asians i have ever seen. imagine if they stayed here.
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post Oct 30 2019, 09:11 AM

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QUOTE(Black Sofa @ Oct 30 2019, 09:08 AM)
shouldve let some of them stayed. overseas vietnamese are some of the most hnngghh asians i have ever seen. imagine if they stayed here.
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No, if they stayed here, they'll be fat and unattractive like us. Commie exercise and diet did them well.
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post Oct 30 2019, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(Black Sofa @ Oct 30 2019, 09:08 AM)
shouldve let some of them stayed. overseas vietnamese are some of the most hnngghh asians i have ever seen. imagine if they stayed here.
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I heard when offered Malaysia many refused and only want to go countries like Australia and US
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post Oct 30 2019, 09:19 AM

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Too bad, no vietmoi for /k...
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post Oct 30 2019, 09:20 AM

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Nobody remember the camp in sg besi one?
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post Oct 30 2019, 09:23 AM

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only poor ones made it here to malaysia..

middle class and above all already made it to US/EU.


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post Oct 30 2019, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(Chekusan2019 @ Oct 30 2019, 09:20 AM)
Nobody remember the camp in sg besi one?
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What's with sg besi?
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post Oct 30 2019, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(kons @ Oct 30 2019, 09:23 AM)
only poor ones made it here to malaysia..

middle class and above all already made it to US/EU.
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France also got many viets.. maybe because France was their colonial mastee
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post Oct 30 2019, 09:25 AM

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ironic today malaysia is filled with vietnamese worker .
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post Oct 30 2019, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(JoeK @ Oct 30 2019, 09:24 AM)
What's with sg besi?
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Sg besi also got vietnam camp back in the day
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QUOTE(JoeK @ Oct 30 2019, 09:25 AM)
France also got many viets.. maybe because France was their colonial mastee
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yeah.. i used to roam around paris and found lots of vietnamese operated restaurant masquerade as chinese restaurant..
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QUOTE(Chekusan2019 @ Oct 30 2019, 09:26 AM)
Sg besi also got vietnam camp back in the day
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Story here please
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QUOTE(Chekusan2019 @ Oct 30 2019, 09:20 AM)
Nobody remember the camp in sg besi one?
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kampung malaysia?
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post Oct 30 2019, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(kons @ Oct 30 2019, 09:26 AM)
yeah.. i used to roam around paris and found lots of vietnamese operated restaurant masquerade as chinese restaurant..
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One thing is weird about vietnam is that their classic dish banh mi is actually a sandwich.

That's so unlike the rest of us asian. More like western already hmm.gif
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post Oct 30 2019, 09:30 AM

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i remember watching sg besi camp full of viet in long houses. kids nowadays know nothing

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QUOTE(JoeK @ Oct 30 2019, 09:29 AM)
One thing is weird about vietnam is that their classic dish banh mi is actually a sandwich.

That's so unlike the rest of us asian. More like western already hmm.gif
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probably some of it was originated from vietnam

every s.e.a. country has their own traditional dish
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post Oct 30 2019, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(JoeK @ Oct 30 2019, 09:24 AM)
What's with sg besi?
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Another camp , its presently Bukit Jalil/ Technology Park area.
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post Oct 30 2019, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(JoeK @ Oct 30 2019, 09:25 AM)
France also got many viets.. maybe because France was their colonial mastee
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3 countries which accepted the largest numbers of Vietnamese boat people:
USA
Australia
France

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post Oct 30 2019, 09:49 AM

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now pulau bidong is a decent diving spot
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post Oct 30 2019, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(reed90 @ Oct 30 2019, 09:49 AM)
now pulau bidong is a decent diving spot
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Yes i heard it's decent place.

Pulau bidong together with pulau kapas nice place. Its smaller and not many people like perhentian
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QUOTE(Matgolf @ Oct 30 2019, 09:35 AM)
Another camp ,  its presently Bukit Jalil/ Technology Park area.
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Astro to be more exact. Last time when drove by, my dad will point out the place to us. Alot of refugees leaning on the balcony would look at cars drive by as we too look at them when we drive by
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QUOTE(Keng @ Oct 30 2019, 10:32 AM)
Astro to be more exact. Last time when drove by, my dad will point out the place to us. Alot of refugees leaning on the balcony would look at cars drive by as we too look at them when we drive by
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This is now in present time?

What refugee is this? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Chekusan2019 @ Oct 30 2019, 09:26 AM)
Sg besi also got vietnam camp back in the day
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Is it the sg besi camp where the riot happened?
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post Oct 30 2019, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(BS8110 @ Oct 30 2019, 10:38 AM)
Is it the sg besi camp where the riot happened?
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Yeah i think so.
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post Oct 30 2019, 10:49 AM

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40000 ppl in an area like a football field? Damnnn....
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post Oct 30 2019, 11:43 AM

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Remember I snorkeling at this island. Ask the boat guy why got this torn down like kampung house. He said it it viet refugee camp before.

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QUOTE(JoeK @ Oct 30 2019, 10:35 AM)
This is now in present time?

What refugee is this? hmm.gif
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No, its closed back in late 80s or early 90s.

It was the Vietnamese refugee transit camp. Can't miss it coz its just along the PLUS to city road

The design looked something like this

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Some article on the closure of the camp https://www.upi.com/Archives/1996/06/25/Mal.../4986835675200/
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post Oct 30 2019, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(JoeK @ Oct 30 2019, 09:24 AM)
What's with sg besi?
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Malaysia closes Vietnamese refugee camp - UPI

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Last Vietnamese boat refugee leaves Malaysia - UNHCR

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post Oct 30 2019, 04:29 PM

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Hardworking and intelligent people with beautiful girls - reject send to western countries.

Rohingya with below average iq capable of the most menial work, women not sure if really women - accept.

Malaysian logic.
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post Oct 30 2019, 04:44 PM

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Not mistaken there is also a Vietnamese refugee camp at 22nd mile Jalan Kuantan-Kemanan back in 1981. Also at Jalan Sg Besi (near Sg Besi toll and now become Petronas station) where they stage a protest on the highway in 1995.
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post Oct 30 2019, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(JoeK @ Oct 30 2019, 09:29 AM)
One thing is weird about vietnam is that their classic dish banh mi is actually a sandwich.

That's so unlike the rest of us asian. More like western already hmm.gif
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isn't that just a sandwich using baguette?

kena colonised by french, so they also started using french bread?

the bread is baguette
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QUOTE(sonark @ Oct 30 2019, 03:58 PM)
Malaysia closes Vietnamese refugee camp - UPI

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Last Vietnamese boat refugee leaves Malaysia - UNHCR

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give them a place to stay somemore dare to riot and kacau? wtf?

this one macam those refugees in EU, can go rape and plunder some more

wtf knnccb... these people should just get shot dead on the spot la

fuckers all... got free stay d some more dare to bising
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QUOTE(mitun @ Oct 30 2019, 04:29 PM)
Hardworking and intelligent people with beautiful girls - reject send to western countries.

Rohingya with below average iq capable of the most menial work, women not sure if really women - accept.

Malaysian logic.
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You have to thank your PM4 aka PM7 for that...

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Malaysians officials have reportedly said that they plan to force all 76,000 Vietnamese refugees here back out to sea...

Dr. Mahathir was alio said to have asserted that orders would be given to shoot on sight any refugees trying to land on Malaysian shores.

https://www.nytimes.com/1979/06/18/archives...ernational.html
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The Bosnian refugees were nicer smile.gif All the white girls looking for free citizenship... good times good times
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QUOTE(kons @ Oct 30 2019, 09:26 AM)
yeah.. i used to roam around paris and found lots of vietnamese operated restaurant masquerade as chinese restaurant..
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those are most likely vietnamese chinese ppl, thr r alot of chinese ppl in vietnam too
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QUOTE(river.sand @ Oct 30 2019, 04:58 PM)
You have to thank your PM4 aka PM7 for that...
https://www.nytimes.com/1979/06/18/archives...ernational.html
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You can't blame Tun. HK suffered the most from boat people because of their liberal policies of accepting them in the beginning. The vietnamese boat people camps at HK were the worst and suffer from all sorts of violence when HK government implement forced repatriation.

But the first generation of boat people also produced some famous HK people such as Tsui Hark and Ray Lui.
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QUOTE(Twenty-Fifth Baam @ Oct 30 2019, 04:52 PM)
isn't that just a sandwich using baguette?

kena colonised by french, so they also started using french bread?

the bread is baguette
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I was in Hanoi recently. You're right. The bread is french baguette due to french colonialism.

If you visit Hanoi, you must try the Bahn Mi from a shop call Bahn Mi 25. They are known as the best in Hanoi.
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QUOTE(rooney723 @ Oct 30 2019, 05:09 PM)
those are most likely vietnamese chinese ppl, thr r alot of chinese ppl in vietnam too
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yeah they can speak cantonese surprisingly... chat with a grandma and she said during the war she first came to malaysia.. stayed for a few years and then moved on to paris.
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QUOTE(Keng @ Oct 30 2019, 10:32 AM)
Astro to be more exact. Last time when drove by, my dad will point out the place to us. Alot of refugees leaning on the balcony would look at cars drive by as we too look at them when we drive by
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So they torn off the centre and rebuilt the Astro's office?
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cerita pasal vietnam... pg bukak pasal rohingya

tak puas hati apa benda ntah


malaysia baik hari terima semua kaum ke dlm negaranya


kalau tak puas hati.. pg jumpa your former master laa...

mcm yg hindraf buat
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History of refugees in Malaysia until caused riot back in 90's since the Rohingya efugees story now is quite hot
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So kalau kita ada bekalan Vietmoi local kenapa service rate masih expensive?
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QUOTE(derthvadar @ Apr 27 2020, 09:16 PM)
So kalau kita ada bekalan Vietmoi local kenapa service rate masih expensive?
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Mgkin time tu ada supply tapi tiada demand, skrg ada demand tapi kurang supply. And dulu polis pun pakai seluar pendek
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the rohingya also got pulau but they dunwan go there
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Who said...vietnamese amoi no hggghhh....

Take example katsuni shes vietnamese n till now she legend
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QUOTE(kons @ Oct 31 2019, 10:40 AM)
yeah they can speak cantonese surprisingly... chat with a grandma and she said during the war she first came to malaysia.. stayed for a few years and then moved on to paris.
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In Saigon, many Vietnamese Chinese speaks Cantonese.
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QUOTE(JoeK @ Oct 30 2019, 09:29 AM)
One thing is weird about vietnam is that their classic dish banh mi is actually a sandwich.

That's so unlike the rest of us asian. More like western already hmm.gif
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It's fusion cuisine bah. French bread with Vietnamese fillings.
The bread was probably the best thing the French left the vietnamese.

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