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post Oct 25 2019, 02:31 AM, updated 7y ago

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Having my IGCSEs now and I'm starting to think what I should take next year after I get my results. My plan originally was to go to a Japanese Pre-U (Pusat Bahasa Teikyo if you're interested) in KL since I want to further my studies in Japan but now I'm having doubts as my teacher advised me to take A-levels instead as there's more chance for scholarships and qualifications. Now I'm kind of in a dilemma between which one to go, people say A-levels are hard and I'm not very academically smart myself but if I put my mind to it, I can do it given enough time.

I've been researching this Pre-U for quite a while now suddenly having this other option confuses me, I'm fine with either as long as it has the end goal of pursuing studies in ICT in Japan and possibly getting scholarships to lessen studying fees. Any suggestions or opinions below would be appreciated. smile.gif
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post Oct 25 2019, 04:24 PM

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If you can get 8As and above in IGCSE, then you might have a decent chance of scoring 2As and above in A levels

I just did A levels myself prior to studying at HW Malaysia as an actuarial science student, having gotten 1A* and 3As ( the other A I got by remarking my chemistry A2 modules, hence it rose from B to A). For me A levels isnt hard as long as you have the will and tenacity to put in effort and study , the pivotal factor to scoring As are just these two: do past papers and understand the concepts.
Also memorize the marking schemes untill you can regurgitate each and every answer corresponding to all questions that generally require you to include certain fixed points in your answer.
The other tip I can give you if you plan to pursue A levels is to be inquisitive. Keep asking questions till you understand what is being thought.

I woudn't say foundation is easier than A levels, while the duration is shorter and you certainly study less, some foundation programs incorporate uni level material into their curriculum, for example, if you were to do foundation in engineering, at some unis you would already be studying linear algebra which is something that is generally taught at year 1 undergrad math courses and is not included in the A level math syllabus, though if I aint wrong STPM Maths T does teach linear algebra

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post Oct 25 2019, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(ZenithSkirmisher @ Oct 25 2019, 04:24 PM)
I just did A levels myself prior to studying at HW Malaysia as an actuarial science student, having gotten 1A* and 3As ( the other A I got by remarking my chemistry A2 modules, hence it rose from B to A).
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Wow thats good to hear an A bump on Chemistry for remark lol

You gotten 78 on Overall?

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post Oct 25 2019, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(iSean @ Oct 25 2019, 04:36 PM)
Wow thats good to hear an A bump on Chemistry for remark lol

You gotten 78 on Overall?
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post Oct 26 2019, 04:42 AM

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QUOTE(ZenithSkirmisher @ Oct 25 2019, 04:24 PM)
If you can get 8As and above in IGCSE, then you might have a decent chance of scoring 2As and above in A levels

I just did A levels myself prior to studying at HW Malaysia as an actuarial science student, having gotten 1A* and 3As ( the other A I got by remarking my chemistry A2 modules, hence it rose from B to A). For me A levels isnt hard as long as you have the will and tenacity to put in effort and study , the pivotal factor to scoring As are just these two: do past papers and understand the concepts.
Also memorize the marking schemes untill you can regurgitate each and every answer corresponding to all questions that generally require you to include certain fixed points in your answer.
The other tip I can give you if you plan to pursue A levels is to be inquisitive. Keep asking questions till you understand what is being thought.

I woudn't say foundation is easier than A levels, while the duration is shorter and you certainly study less, some foundation programs incorporate uni level material into their curriculum, for example, if you were to do foundation in engineering, at some unis you would already be studying linear algebra which is something that is generally taught at year 1 undergrad math courses and is not included in the A level math syllabus, though if I aint wrong STPM Maths T does teach linear algebra
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Yeah definitely willing to put in the hard work but damn, getting 8As and the chance of getting 2As is just decent? Is A-levels that much more difficult? I dropped 2 subjects in IGCSEs myself so I'm only able to get 7 if I score well for exams. Yep, just found out too late that best way to revise is definitely grinding past years and focusing early on in school years.. Do you learn things or concepts from scratch in A-levels or do they assume you have good knowledge and just start somewhere further if that makes any sense. I'll definitely ask questions and dig deep until I understand the concept, sometimes I just can't really study from the textbook since the choice of words are confusing.

FYI, subjects I dropped were chemistry and add maths, which personally, I found quite difficult for me to keep up with and I scored terribly for them during exams. Wow, 4A's for A-levels must be really good, but do you think A-levels are recommended for someone like me? Not academically talented but I'll definitely put in the work it's needed.

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post Oct 26 2019, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(shwegdow @ Oct 26 2019, 04:42 AM)
Yeah definitely willing to put in the hard work but damn, getting 8As and the chance of getting 2As is just decent? Is A-levels that much more difficult? I dropped 2 subjects in IGCSEs myself so I'm only able to get 7 if I score well for exams. Yep, just found out too late that best way to revise is definitely grinding past years and focusing early on in school years.. Do you learn things or concepts from scratch in A-levels or do they assume you have good knowledge and just start somewhere further if that makes any sense. I'll definitely ask questions and dig deep until I understand the concept, sometimes I just can't really study from the textbook since the choice of words are confusing.

FYI, subjects I dropped were chemistry and add maths, which personally, I found quite difficult for me to keep up with and I scored terribly for them during exams. Wow, 4A's for A-levels must be really good, but do you think A-levels are recommended for someone like me? Not academically talented but I'll definitely put in the work it's needed.
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In most cases I had say that lecturers generally assume you have solid foundation for the subjects you are studying and start somewhere further from the basics, for AS things you learn are just your IGCSEs plus some extras, but A2 is an entirely different ball game, the topics covered are more advanced and are close to year 1 undergrad material, which made sense seeing as to how A2 is supposed to bridge the gap between year 12 and year 1 at uni.

If you truly are not academically inclined I had advice against taking up A levels as they truly do live up to their reputation for being a challenging program that demands hard work and innate intelligence for students to attain good grades like 3As and above , but the good news is there are lots of resources online for you to refer to should you decide to take up A levels, websites such as GCE guide and Z-notes have contributed tremendously in securing my 1A* and 3As

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post Oct 26 2019, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(ZenithSkirmisher @ Oct 26 2019, 11:59 AM)
In most cases I had say that lecturers generally assume you have solid foundation for the subjects you are studying and start somewhere further from the basics, for AS things you learn are just your IGCSEs plus some extras, but A2 is an entirely different ball game, the topics covered are more advanced and are close to year 1 undergrad material, which made sense seeing as to how A2 is supposed to bridge the gap between year 12 and year 1 at uni.

If you truly are not academically inclined I had advice against taking up A levels as they truly do live up to their reputation for being a challenging program that demands hard work and innate intelligence for students to be rewarded good grades like 3As and above , but the good news is there are lots of resources online for you to refer to should you decide to take up A levels, websites such as GCE guide and Z-notes have contributed tremendously in securing my 1A* and 3As
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Ah alright then, thanks anyways. If lets say I want to prepare myself for A-levels so I'll know what to expect if I happen to take A-levels, any resources online I could use to practice or revise for content that they teach? 3 subjects sounds pretty doable but from what I'm hearing, it's probably more of a nightmare than what it sounds like.
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post Oct 26 2019, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(shwegdow @ Oct 26 2019, 03:27 PM)
Ah alright then, thanks anyways. If lets say I want to prepare myself for A-levels so I'll know what to expect if I happen to take A-levels, any resources online I could use to practice or revise for content that they teach? 3 subjects sounds pretty doable but from what I'm hearing, it's probably more of a nightmare than what it sounds like.
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The only websites I know of are Chemguide for Chem, GCE Guide and papacambridge for past papers and Cambridge text books in PDF format xtremepapers for past papers and forums dedicated to discussions like solutions, suggested answers, predictions on questions etc and z notes for typed summaries on AS and A2 content

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post Oct 27 2019, 01:08 AM

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QUOTE(ZenithSkirmisher @ Oct 26 2019, 10:39 PM)
The only websites I know of are Chemguide for Chem, GCE Guide and papacambridge for past papers and Cambridge text books in PDF format xtremepapers for past papers and forums dedicated to discussions like solutions, suggested answers, predictions on questions etc and z notes for typed summaries on AS and A2 content
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Ah that's quite helpful, thanks again for the help! Will be sure to check out these websites and possibly practice for some subjects
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post Oct 27 2019, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(shwegdow @ Oct 26 2019, 03:27 PM)
Ah alright then, thanks anyways. If lets say I want to prepare myself for A-levels so I'll know what to expect if I happen to take A-levels, any resources online I could use to practice or revise for content that they teach? 3 subjects sounds pretty doable but from what I'm hearing, it's probably more of a nightmare than what it sounds like.
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A-Levels is somewhat of a double edged sword sweat.gif
You can have marking scheme, and examiner reports, but do you know what you're actually doing is another thing...

3 Subjects is totally enough to get admitted to your desired university, around the world, with exception of Singapore laugh.gif
It is a nightmare balancing time for past papers, social, and quality time.

Doing too much past papers would normally lead to burn out sweat.gif
If you not sure what you're doing.

Do topical past year papers, but do 5 years maximum would be totally sufficient I hope.

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post Oct 28 2019, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(iSean @ Oct 27 2019, 04:15 PM)
A-Levels is somewhat of a double edged sword  sweat.gif
You can have marking scheme, and examiner reports, but do you know what you're actually doing is another thing...

3 Subjects is totally enough to get admitted to your desired university, around the world, with exception of Singapore  laugh.gif
It is a nightmare balancing time for past papers, social, and quality time.

Doing too much past papers would normally lead to burn out  sweat.gif
If you not sure what you're doing.

Do topical past year papers, but do 5 years maximum would be totally sufficient I hope.
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To be fair, not everything is going to come easy but I'm willing to work hard if it gives me a feasible chance of studying overseas.
Yeah for sure, past years burnout is not very fun so I'll try to limit myself on that.

Oh by the way, how does the process of applying for overseas after completing A-level go if you may enlighten me? Right now, I'm more or less set on doing a computer science degree after A-levels but preferably in Japan.
It's probably a little too soon to be talking about going overseas now but I can't help but be curious, just want to be well prepared. sweat.gif
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post Oct 29 2019, 12:54 AM

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QUOTE(shwegdow @ Oct 28 2019, 10:54 PM)
To be fair, not everything is going to come easy but I'm willing to work hard if it gives me a feasible chance of studying overseas.
Yeah for sure, past years burnout is not very fun so I'll try to limit myself on that.

Oh by the way, how does the process of applying for overseas after completing A-level go if you may enlighten me? Right now, I'm more or less set on doing a computer science degree after A-levels but preferably in Japan.
It's probably a little too soon to be talking about going overseas now but I can't help but be curious, just want to be well prepared.  sweat.gif
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You sound like me. But I suffered major burn out during my a levels after struggling in my A Level subjects juggling with Math and 3 Pure Science.
Which lead me to no where but to settle for less in Malaysia.

Basically A levels applying is more direct if you apply to UK via UCAS.
Malaysia IPTA via UPU.

For Japanese one, what I heard from my friends is they either went to Japanese Learning Center settle their Language before moving to Japan with their studies.

School admission is a more towards direct admission based on the school academic requirements.

It is a huge learning curve grasping another language, to further your studies. But in countries like China. They offer English Courses I'm not sure Japan uni similar or not.
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post Oct 29 2019, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(iSean @ Oct 25 2019, 04:36 PM)
Wow thats good to hear an A bump on Chemistry for remark lol

You gotten 78 on Overall?
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How did you know I got 78?
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QUOTE(ZenithSkirmisher @ Oct 29 2019, 05:44 PM)
How did you know I got 78?
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nah, I personally gotten 78 and didn't bother to remark for A2.
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post Oct 31 2019, 12:16 AM

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QUOTE(iSean @ Oct 29 2019, 12:54 AM)
You sound like me. But I suffered major burn out during my a levels after struggling in my A Level subjects juggling with Math and 3 Pure Science.
Which lead me to no where but to settle for less in Malaysia.

Basically A levels applying is more direct if you apply to UK via UCAS.
Malaysia IPTA via UPU.

For Japanese one, what I heard from my friends is they either went to Japanese Learning Center settle their Language before moving to Japan with their studies.

School admission is a more towards direct admission based on the school academic requirements.

It is a huge learning curve grasping another language, to further your studies. But in countries like China. They offer English Courses I'm not sure Japan uni similar or not.
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Ow that sounds rough, sorry to hear that. I'm planning to take 3 subjects, personally haven't suffered much burn out from studying because I'm quite inconsistent and take longgg breaks when I take breaks. May I ask how many hours did you study a day during those times and how many days per week? Or did you save studying for last minute?

Did a little research and it seems Japan is not the best place to pursue my degree in and I think I might just complete it locally. Though of course, I'd like to work there but I'll figure that myself somehow in the future. In the unlikely case I get a sponsorship to further my studies, where should I go? hmm.gif

Learning new languages are fun sometimes, get to communicate with more people from around the world. But thanks anyways for taking your time to reply, gonna work hard now for A-levels!

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QUOTE(shwegdow @ Oct 31 2019, 12:16 AM)
Ow that sounds rough, sorry to hear that. I'm planning to take 3 subjects, personally haven't suffered much burn out from studying because I'm quite inconsistent and take longgg breaks when I take breaks. May I ask how many hours did you study a day during those times and how many days per week? Or did you save studying for last minute?

Did a little research and it seems Japan is not the best place to pursue my degree in and I think I might just complete it locally. Though of course, I'd like to work there but I'll figure that myself somehow in the future. In the unlikely case I get a sponsorship to further my studies, where should I go?  hmm.gif

Learning new languages are fun sometimes, get to communicate with more people from around the world. But thanks anyways for taking your time to reply, gonna work hard now for A-levels!
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Depends on what subjects you are struggling through.
my study life was mostly always in campus.

Classes always starts from 8am to 5 pm.
With occasional 2 to 4 hours breaks.

Most of the time I take my topical past papers.
And slowly scrub through them during my breaks alone in the library.
And try to find solutions online for some questions for hours, not understanding why the marking scheme and examiner report says so.

Then thanks to scholarships, forced to join those Student Meetings every Wednesday til 5.30pm. Even though with some small hopes in regaining the scholarship in the next semester.

Diving through a horrible jam back home later it is already 7pm.
Exhausted go to bed after dinner around 8. And wake up 6am in the morning prep to college again. It becomes abit mundane.

Saturday I take my day off, and Sunday try to do homework that was mostly Maths and Chemistry.
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QUOTE(shwegdow @ Oct 28 2019, 10:54 PM)
To be fair, not everything is going to come easy but I'm willing to work hard if it gives me a feasible chance of studying overseas.
Yeah for sure, past years burnout is not very fun so I'll try to limit myself on that.

Oh by the way, how does the process of applying for overseas after completing A-level go if you may enlighten me? Right now, I'm more or less set on doing a computer science degree after A-levels but preferably in Japan.
It's probably a little too soon to be talking about going overseas now but I can't help but be curious, just want to be well prepared.  sweat.gif
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Ooh you could take the A-Levels computer science subject and test if it's something you'd want to study further. For US studies, almost all uni/college applications is through this system called the Common App. Some elite unis don't follow it. But yes, I mentioned US because it's quite a cutting-edge place to study CS 😆

(Actually if you want to go US for sure, you could skip A Levels and do ADP/ADTP or just enrol straight to a US uni)

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QUOTE(E-Tan @ Oct 31 2019, 09:27 PM)
Ooh you could take the A-Levels computer science subject and test if it's something you'd want to study further. For US studies, almost all uni/college applications is through this system called the Common App. Some elite unis don't follow it. But yes, I mentioned US because it's quite a cutting-edge place to study CS 😆

(Actually if you want to go US for sure, you could skip A Levels and do ADP/ADTP or just enrol straight to a US uni)
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Are you still serving MCKL Teaching Scholarship tho? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(shwegdow @ Oct 25 2019, 02:31 AM)
Having my IGCSEs now and I'm starting to think what I should take next year after I get my results. My plan originally was to go to a Japanese Pre-U (Pusat Bahasa Teikyo if you're interested) in KL since I want to further my studies in Japan but now I'm having doubts as my teacher advised me to take A-levels instead as there's more chance for scholarships and qualifications. Now I'm kind of in a dilemma between which one to go, people say A-levels are hard and I'm not very academically smart myself but if I put my mind to it, I can do it given enough time.

I've been researching this Pre-U for quite a while now suddenly having this other option confuses me, I'm fine with either as long as it has the end goal of pursuing studies in ICT in Japan and possibly getting scholarships to lessen studying fees. Any suggestions or opinions below would be appreciated. smile.gif
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While A-level is like the golden pass to studying overseas, for specific countries, like USA and Japan, it's better to take other pre-u options instead. If you're really keen on studying in Japan, I highly advise you from taking A-levels. Now, if you're talking about scholarships, yes, A-level candidates have a better chance at getting scholarships since it's recognized worldwide, but tbh, it doesn't that much unless you get stellar results.

And if you're worried about A-levels being hard, don't be. I have no idea where the notion that A-levels is hard comes from, but as long as you listen in class and do past years, you'll score well. One of the benefits of taking A-levels is that their marking schemes are very transparent, and the pattern for their questions rarely varies. One of my classmates finished half the sets of past years, and she could basically answer half of the questions without batting an eye since everything is so similar.
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QUOTE(tempeste1204 @ Nov 1 2019, 12:29 AM)
While A-level is like the golden pass to studying overseas, for specific countries, like USA and Japan, it's better to take other pre-u options instead. If you're really keen on studying in Japan, I highly advise you from taking A-levels. Now, if you're talking about scholarships, yes, A-level candidates have a better chance at getting scholarships since it's recognized worldwide, but tbh, it doesn't that much unless you get stellar results.

And if you're worried about A-levels being hard, don't be. I have no idea where the notion that A-levels is hard comes from, but as long as you listen in class and do past years, you'll score well. One of the benefits of taking A-levels is that their marking schemes are very transparent, and the pattern for their questions rarely varies. One of my classmates finished half the sets of past years, and she could basically answer half of the questions without batting an eye since everything is so similar.
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USA is out of the picture they accepts only SAT 😅

Again you can have the marking scheme but no idea what you're doing is bad.

Especially doing Mathematics topical without a solution manual.
I personally find reading the marking scheme for Maths is especially difficult. If you don't know which step you done wrong.

Doing too much of topical questions might be also harmful in a sense that you might be spending too much time in 1 topic rather than the others. Try to do 5 years maximum of the latest papers.
.Don't go full retarded and do 2002 to 2015/16 like me.

As there would be some syllabus changes. Seriously 5 years is enough. With 3 variants in a year starting 2011 onwards.

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