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Rusminah, a dedicated female birdnest collector in Gua Madai Sabah

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KUNAK, Oct 23 -- The job of harvesting bird’s nest attached high on the walls and ceilings of caves is usually attributed to men as the work requires more energy and courage.

But Gua Madai in Kunak, Sabah is not short of female bird’s nest collectors.

A Bernama reporter had the opportunity to meet 50-year-old Rusminah Baji, a grandmother of two who has been risking her life to gather bird’s nest from the cave since she was 17.

To the reporter’s amazement, despite her age, she was very agile climbing the ‘gegulug’ (rattan scaffold) and holding on the rope at a height of 200 feet of the ceiling of the cave, while collecting the bird's nests attached to the wall of the cave.

According to the mother-of-six, she started as a helper for her father when she was 17 and as time goes by, she inherits the job from him.

She is from the Idahan ethnic minority group in Sabah who has a claim on the harvesting rights of the nest for generations.

“At first my father did not allow me to climb the rattan scaffold to gather the bird's nests because it was too dangerous. Nowadays, we also hang on the ropes, but previously we depend on the rattan only...which was more dangerous. This job is very risky. Moreover, the route to the cave is very slippery.

“Then my father started to encourage me after he saw how passionate I was about the work. I believe that if we work in the proper way, not casually and put safety first, we could avoid mishaps,” she said.

According to Rusminah, the work is very dangerous and therefore bird’s nest collectors are offered high pay.

“The bird's nest collectors could earn between RM3,000 to RM5,000 in a day depending on their skill because in this cave (Gua Madai) alone there are over 100 hole lots with different heights and challenges,” she said.

She explained that they climb the bamboo scaffold tied to the cave wall, and use the rope attached on the cave’s ceiling to hang while collecting the nest.

“The scaffold was only installed during the harvesting season in April, August and December. After the season ends, it will be detached and stored to prevent intruders from using it to steal the bird's nest,” she explained.

She said the collectors were not allowed to use knives or sharp objects when harvesting the nest.

“In April, the nest are usually firm and not easy to retrieve, which is why we sprayed the wall with water and waited about five minutes to pluck it. We need to be careful because if the nest was damaged the quality will be reduced,” she added.

Almost every year, there were fatal accidents involving nest collectors who slip and fall from the cave walls, she said.

“It is very sad to see our friends fall and crash on the cave floor, the consequences are really bad. But this is our fate, no matter how cautious we are we still could slip or took the wrong step,” she said.

Rusminah said despite witnessing her friends die from falling while working, it did not stop her or the Idahan community to continue the tradition.

“We put our trust and surrender to God because the job is our source of income, and not to mention we are already used to the life inside the cave, so we keep working,” she said.

Gua Madai is part of the limestone hills range located within the Baturong Madai Forest Reserve, about 13 kilometres from Kunak Town. The cave is a heritage cave that produces black swiftlet nests.

For the record, according to Section 85 (2) of the Wildlife Conservation Enactment 1997, Gua Madai is listed in Part I of Schedule 4, as one of the caves recognised by the Sabah government as the inheritance right of a community.

Meanwhile, the Idahan is the tribe who inherited the rights to harvest the nest in the holes of the rocks in Gua Madai subjected to royalty payments of 10 percent to the government.

Rusminah said that every year, an estimated one tonne of black swiftlet’s nest were harvested from the cave, and the price of the unprocessed nest could reach RM3,000 per kilogram.

“The Gua Madai bird's nest has a higher quality than elsewhere. It is dubbed as the black gem because after it was processed, the price could shoot up to RM12,000 per kilogramme,” she explained.

The harvesting season typically lasts about 30 days.
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Yeah but they dont collect everyday you know

Plus its even more dangerous than off shore rigger cuz they dont have any hightech safety mechanism and no safety officers shiets like that, you fall you die

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3-5k per day??

thats easily 2-3 kg of raw birdsnest
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it must be a very very big place to harvest. usually hear failed stories with this biz. my frens family spent hundreds of thousand on the setup. now the monthly supply can feed their family of 5 only....zzz
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Hmmm my friend's father like 60 years old edi. Very small egg farmer, can earn RM10k per month.
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got one documentary i watched b4

sometimes or in some places they sleep there too, makeshift rattan bed in the cave

and the place is literally filled with huge centipedes, crawling everywhere on the walls, guano covered floors etc, like house ants

cave centipedes looked wicked too, unlike the usual kind
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Anyone can recommend which birdnest is better? N cheap. Klang valley area.
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this fella got one whole cave to harvest

i soon to try
in shoplot but expecting local council to come distrub
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QUOTE(ukauka2020 @ Oct 23 2019, 04:44 AM)
it must be a very very big place to harvest. usually hear failed stories with this biz. my frens family spent hundreds of thousand on the setup. now the monthly supply can feed their family of 5 only....zzz
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Those are manmade birdhouse and man made bird sound, and usually located near to human footprints.

Those caves are the original, the smell of the birds, caves, poops, sound and everything is ori.

No way manmade can beat the original
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QUOTE(bergstein @ Oct 23 2019, 04:47 AM)
Hmmm my friend's father like 60 years old edi. Very small egg farmer, can earn RM10k per month.
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We all heard about success story..

I used to be salted egg farmer as well, but fail.
The feeds are too expensive, and you cannot predict animal behavior. If they dont lay eggs you cant force it.
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i know one of them bird nest cave families come to kk city and stayed for a month in a 4 star hotel here and enjoy his shares

dont know why he didnt travel elsewhere
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Say 4k a day
1 year work 30 days

120k

Ok la
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Wow can collect so many per day
I wish mine the same
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QUOTE(bergstein @ Oct 23 2019, 12:47 PM)
Hmmm my friend's father like 60 years old edi. Very small egg farmer, can earn RM10k per month.
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there is no such thing as a "small" egg farmer
because eggs don't come frm thin air
it came from chicken, if you're into egg business..you're pretty much in chicken business as well
and that...u need a huge piece of land for it and u need to follow the regulations as well

my friend's dad also egg farmer that only supply locally(town) and some small player
not sure how much he earn but his son work for him for RM1.5k/month only doh.gif
and it's a tough job(not a 8-5 job)
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QUOTE(ukauka2020 @ Oct 23 2019, 12:44 PM)
it must be a very very big place to harvest. usually hear failed stories with this biz. my frens family spent hundreds of thousand on the setup. now the monthly supply can feed their family of 5 only....zzz
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setup at wrong place. my friends can get 0.5kg p month to 1kg and growing
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QUOTE(ah_suknat @ Oct 23 2019, 12:39 PM)
Yeah but they dont collect everyday you know

Plus its even more dangerous than off shore rigger cuz they dont have any hightech safety mechanism and no safety officers shiets like that, you fall you die
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Oct 23 2019, 01:36 PM)
there is no such thing as a "small" egg farmer
because eggs don't come frm thin air
it came from chicken, if you're into egg business..you're pretty much in chicken business as well
and that...u need a huge piece of land for it and u need to follow the regulations as well

my friend's dad also egg farmer that only supply locally(town) and some small player
not sure how much he earn but his son work for him for RM1.5k/month only doh.gif
and it's a tough job(not a 8-5 job)
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Oh hmm I call his business small because I know there are many big player out there like supply whole Klang Valley, have super big factory and things hahaha
I never really visit his farm before, only visit his kampung house and saw his chicken farm beside the farm, not really big one.
He thinking to retire so my friend suggest to do all the delivery things (deliver to local pasar, supplier) to offload his job
Yea he sells chicks too in pasar
Just I surprised he can earn that much cause he just looks like a kopitiam uncle. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(bergstein @ Oct 23 2019, 02:00 PM)
Oh hmm I call his business small because I know there are many big player out there like supply whole Klang Valley, have super big factory and things hahaha
I never really visit his farm before, only visit his kampung house and saw his chicken farm beside the farm, not really big one.
He thinking to retire so my friend suggest to do all the delivery things (deliver to local pasar, supplier) to offload his job
Yea he sells chicks too in pasar
Just I surprised he can earn that much cause he just looks like a kopitiam uncle.  tongue.gif
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my friend's dad only supply to town and some people in the city
but his farm is huge, very big piece of land
not sure how much he earn but ya, he drives a very old land cruiser....his son works for him for a very low salary
end up my friend quit and went back to his hotel job
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lol... u think everyday can harvest birdnest? the bird also will maki you and pindah if you take everyday.

rather than 3-5k a day... how about you say 3-5k every 2 months.

not as appealing now right?

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QUOTE(meteoraniac @ Oct 23 2019, 12:39 PM)
3-5k per day??

thats easily 2-3 kg of raw birdsnest
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2-3kg is unprocessed probably. Processed one cost way more than that.
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Oct 23 2019, 02:05 PM)
my friend's dad only supply to town and some people in the city
but his farm is huge, very big piece of land
not sure how much he earn but ya, he drives a very old land cruiser....his son works for him for a very low salary
end up my friend quit and went back to his hotel job
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Local cannot get high price. Try selling to China.
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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Oct 23 2019, 02:09 PM)
Local cannot get high price. Try selling to China.
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sell egg to china?...china no egg?
or malaysian egg same quality as japunis?
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sell egg to china?...china no egg?
or malaysian egg same quality as japunis?
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Over here the selling price to China is RM5K-7K for farmed ones. The ones that is wild and not farmed can be sold for 5 figures.
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Sorry what caught my attention was 50 year old grandmother
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QUOTE(ah_suknat @ Oct 23 2019, 01:06 PM)
We all heard about success story..

I used to be salted egg farmer as well, but fail.
The feeds are too expensive, and you cannot predict animal behavior. If they dont lay eggs you cant force it.
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Exactly.. ppl will parrot repeat the success stories.... the killing process, and others who failed are not even mentioned...... and people will expect the success is so easy...
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http://www.bernama.com/en/general/news.php?id=1782131

Rusminah, a dedicated female birdnest collector in Gua Madai Sabah

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KUNAK, Oct 23 -- The job of harvesting bird’s nest attached high on the walls and ceilings of caves is usually attributed to men as the work requires more energy and courage.

But Gua Madai in Kunak, Sabah is not short of female bird’s nest collectors.

A Bernama reporter had the opportunity to meet 50-year-old Rusminah Baji, a grandmother of two who has been risking her life to gather bird’s nest from the cave since she was 17.

To the reporter’s amazement, despite her age, she was very agile climbing the ‘gegulug’ (rattan scaffold) and holding on the rope at a height of 200 feet of the ceiling of the cave, while collecting the bird's nests attached to the wall of the cave.

According to the mother-of-six, she started as a helper for her father when she was 17 and as time goes by, she inherits the job from him.

She is from the Idahan ethnic minority group in Sabah who has a claim on the harvesting rights of the nest for generations.

“At first my father did not allow me to climb the rattan scaffold to gather the bird's nests because it was too dangerous. Nowadays, we also hang on the ropes, but previously we depend on the rattan only...which was more dangerous. This job is very risky. Moreover, the route to the cave is very slippery.

“Then my father started to encourage me after he saw how passionate I was about the work. I believe that if we work in the proper way, not casually and put safety first, we could avoid mishaps,” she said.

According to Rusminah, the work is very dangerous and therefore bird’s nest collectors are offered high pay.

“The bird's nest collectors could earn between RM3,000 to RM5,000 in a day depending on their skill because in this cave (Gua Madai) alone there are over 100 hole lots with different heights and challenges,” she said.

She explained that they climb the bamboo scaffold tied to the cave wall, and use the rope attached on the cave’s ceiling to hang while collecting the nest.

“The scaffold was only installed during the harvesting season in April, August and December. After the season ends, it will be detached and stored to prevent intruders from using it to steal the bird's nest,” she explained.

She said the collectors were not allowed to use knives or sharp objects when harvesting the nest.

“In April, the nest are usually firm and not easy to retrieve, which is why we sprayed the wall with water and waited about five minutes to pluck it. We need to be careful because if the nest was damaged the quality will be reduced,” she added.

Almost every year, there were fatal accidents involving nest collectors who slip and fall from the cave walls, she said.

“It is very sad to see our friends fall and crash on the cave floor, the consequences are really bad. But this is our fate, no matter how cautious we are we still could slip or took the wrong step,” she said.

Rusminah said despite witnessing her friends die from falling while working, it did not stop her or the Idahan community to continue the tradition.

“We put our trust and surrender to God because the job is our source of income, and not to mention we are already used to the life inside the cave, so we keep working,” she said.

Gua Madai is part of the limestone hills range located within the Baturong Madai Forest Reserve, about 13 kilometres from Kunak Town. The cave is a heritage cave that produces black swiftlet nests.

For the record, according to Section 85 (2) of the Wildlife Conservation Enactment 1997, Gua Madai is listed in Part I of Schedule 4, as one of the caves recognised by the Sabah government as the inheritance right of a community.

Meanwhile, the Idahan is the tribe who inherited the rights to harvest the nest in the holes of the rocks in Gua Madai subjected to royalty payments of 10 percent to the government.

Rusminah said that every year, an estimated one tonne of black swiftlet’s nest were harvested from the cave, and the price of the unprocessed nest could reach RM3,000 per kilogram.

“The Gua Madai bird's nest has a higher quality than elsewhere. It is dubbed as the black gem because after it was processed, the price could shoot up to RM12,000 per kilogramme,” she explained.

The harvesting season typically lasts about 30 days.
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QUOTE(ukauka2020 @ Oct 23 2019, 12:44 PM)
it must be a very very big place to harvest. usually hear failed stories with this biz. my frens family spent hundreds of thousand on the setup. now the monthly supply can feed their family of 5 only....zzz
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lol so many bird nest investment like 10yrs ago...

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QUOTE(ukauka2020 @ Oct 23 2019, 12:44 PM)
it must be a very very big place to harvest. usually hear failed stories with this biz. my frens family spent hundreds of thousand on the setup. now the monthly supply can feed their family of 5 only....zzz
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lots of shoplot investors dont know that once got telco towers around, swiftlets wont come d

so those locations must be pretty deep in the middle of the jungle. if not sure lose money
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QUOTE(RiriRuruRara @ Oct 23 2019, 06:12 AM)
Sorry what caught my attention was 50 year old grandmother
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QUOTE(pakmulau @ Oct 23 2019, 06:36 AM)
Wowww makcik 50 tahun steady ja panjat
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QUOTE(GibeDeMuny @ Oct 23 2019, 12:53 PM)
got one documentary i watched b4

sometimes or in some places they sleep there too, makeshift rattan bed in the cave

and the place is literally filled with huge centipedes, crawling everywhere on the walls, guano covered floors etc, like house ants

cave centipedes looked wicked too, unlike the usual kind
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QUOTE(arubin @ Oct 23 2019, 06:11 AM)
I wonder why no one has ever trained monkeys to do this.
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Its a delicate job, if monkey they will handle the nest carelessly and spoil it.
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QUOTE(ah_suknat @ Oct 23 2019, 03:35 PM)
Wait till you see 50 years old mt kinabalu porter that carry 30-50kg load up the mountain and still faster than you.
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