I am just curious, as to why Msia, as a country that has rubber plantations, has no Made in Msia local tyre company?

Reminds me of that michelin tyre that I saw besides federal hw long ago.

Wasn't that a factory?

Local tyre brand i meant. Not foreign made in Malaysia brand.

Silverstone?

Pls dont be a idiot give politikus more idea to songlap enough is eough

Already have. Its called Sime Tyres.

Sime Tyres, Malaysia brand which own by Continental AG with 51% share.. Only left Fung Keong Rubber a.k.a FKR, Viva tire & Silverstone wholly own by Malaysian..

This post has been edited by Oldskolboyz: Oct 21 2019, 09:25 PM

Actually silverstone used to be owned by malaysia lion group and since 2010, it has been sold to the Japanese toyo tires. This topic is saddening... malaysia once known as a big rubber producing country but couldn’t produce high quality product to the competitive global market. Sime and silverstone tyres whether value or technology wise is below par compared to competition. Nowadays most of the rubber plantation have been convert into palm oil estate. Meanwhile palm oil being boycott in Europe and now India. China not buying more of our palm oil and goes to Indonesia instead. Marvellous indeed..

https://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...e-for-rm462mil/

Nice info there. Not sure are they still under Toyo or Toyo has sell them off.

I checked your other posts, and most of the time u r just being less polite in replies. Sad to see ur low maturity in ur language.

This post has been edited by firefly3x: Oct 22 2019, 01:20 PM

Sad though. As a country that produces rubber, this is sad to see other countries succeeding but we cannot even keep up.

the main culprit lies on ourselves, more specifically, the trade bodies overseeing rubber/palm oil. Too senang syiok sendiri keep thinking that petik straight from the tree with minimal processing, then get money.

Didn't think further into the future and invest in R&D to develop better uses/better processes. Take for example, if really manage to find an innovative way to drastically improve the durability of rubber and flexibility of moulding it, with the resurgence of environmental sustainability awareness, rubber based plastic could've made a huge comeback precisely because it is from sustainable sources.

Same also for palm oil. No reason that south america use sugar cane to derive ethanol, when palm oil can produce much more volume of biodiesel per hectar of land. If go back 20 years, if MARDI really do their diligent job of R&D, who knows malaysia is the hub for biofuel from palm oil, instead of now merely for cooking and some consumer product stabalisation additives. Only recent 2 years that there is promotion of the benefits of plam based tocotrienols. Kind of too late as the perception of palm plantation is already ruined by the western counterparts.

IF see the list of benefits, almost superfood category :
https://www.excelvite.com/benefits-palm-toc...ase-management/

This post has been edited by wkc5657: Oct 22 2019, 04:53 PM

I know right.. sometimes I think the government have to give some to win a lot. Take the automotive industry as an example. The Thai government is very brilliant at luring the automotive giants to set up factory over there. Just imagine how many billions of dollars investment we have lost to them. We need to do more than just selling raw material/agriculture, it’s time to move to next stage which is to processing that is value adding. Heck I can say most of the time the money is at the processing part, raw/crude is only a small pie and everyone can do it as long as they have suitable land & environment.

now here's the dilemma of giving some to win a lot. Frankly, on the grander scale of things, western more industrious companies mainly use asia more as a cheaper hub for secondary processing. The really good high margin high tech stuffs almost never reaches our shores, mainly :
1) don't have the capability (fair enough)
2) can't trust the local laws in protecting IP (fair enough, but i think some technology transfers should be given, or else we always at the losing end, can never be at the leg up)
3) mainly want to earn more money for their HQ by taking advantage of our lower cost of operations, and establishing a local market presence

For the automotive segment in thailand, did thailand really win a lot, assembly job wise, yes, damn a lot. By capability wise, i don't think so, even now they can't develop their own capability of making their own cars despite having a lot of experience assembling cars.

Vinfast in vietnam on the hand, saw the handicap using this method, instead buy IP first from BMW, try it out and begin the process of their own car building journey. But these pointers are my opinions based purely on my observation, no insider knowledge.

In the end, the best way for local industry to punch above their weight is to find and cultivate a unique niche. This is where the real money lies and this is where it will bring the overall industry forward by supporting this niche. As the niche advances, so does the supporting industry around the niche.

This post has been edited by wkc5657: Oct 22 2019, 05:22 PM

We have plenty of rubber but lacking seriously in Engineering & Technology.

This post has been edited by budang: Oct 23 2019, 06:15 PM

Ya technology rules the world. Well our rubber is used for gloves.. topglove😂