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 KNIFE MAKING - art for those who love steel craft, Interested in making edged tools/knives?

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TSCRAFT_COACH
post Oct 19 2019, 12:39 AM, updated 5y ago

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u watch "FORGED IN FIRE"?

always wanted to learn how to make your own knife/axe/spear/bow, etc?

admire scenes of blacksmith crafting things in movies?

probably already have a collection of knives/weapons already?

... then u'r probably the kinda person this post is meant for biggrin.gif

let like minded peeps meet & craft something together.

whether kukri, karambit, competition chopper, duku chandong, wakazashi, bamboo bow, etc = whatever. all good. thumbsup.gif

no need to pay obscene prices for beautiful knives/swords, etc... we make ourselves. stock removal method first. then try actual forging.

just need interest & elbow grease - can create (almost) anything.

holla if interested. i'm in kelana jaya area.

any skill level is welcome. learn slow & build a tight knit smithing community together.

come wannabe and future smiths! nod.gif



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post Oct 19 2019, 12:51 AM

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Very interested.. But don't have resource for forged fire.. Saw lot of diy video but still dont try to make it.. Always wanted to try make Damascus knife..
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post Oct 19 2019, 12:57 AM

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QUOTE(tinytech89 @ Oct 19 2019, 12:51 AM)
Very interested.. But don't have resource for forged fire.. Saw lot of diy video but still dont try to make it.. Always wanted to try make Damascus knife..
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forging, hardening, tempering, etc - much more advanced techniques. creatin damascus - even more harder. its one of the pinnacle of forging.

even sifus regularly run into difficulties doin it ;0

start wid stock removal method first & build towards it.

have u made any pieces so far? got pix? smile.gif
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post Oct 19 2019, 01:48 AM

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Still just a dream for someday.. Too busy with life commitments wink.gif.. Even so still want to try to forge something..
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post Oct 19 2019, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(tinytech89 @ Oct 19 2019, 01:48 AM)
Still just a dream for someday.. Too busy with life commitments wink.gif.. Even so still want to try to forge something..
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same here. lol.

thats why wanna do a very relaxed 'come when u can, as u can' approach for this co-op.

dun want to take away too much time from real life. no big time/capital resources required. treat it like a fun hobby to de-stress with. work on it a little bit here & there over a long period. thats wat i do.

that being said - its surprising how much can get done in 40 mins. its probably due to my years of experience/having made all the mistakes there was... but learning from it. its leveled up skills a LOT.

in 40 mins - i can cut my billet to desired knife shape, do quick bevel & attach a quickly shaped pinned handle/drill through handle to make a bushcraft ready knife for batoning & rough use. same thing wudda taken me 4 - 6 months when i first started.

now, in 3 hours & despite my very bare bones set up - i can create a fully functional knife with a polished mirror surface, chisel ground edge that can shave with + a intricately designed burned wood handle or leather/paracord wrap it. & i dun even have dedicated knife making tools, just basic tools. can even make nice leather sheaths too in bout 20 - 30 mins... prob can halve that time once get more practice in.

the pix in my OP took under 1 hour for the state u see. flat bar + rambutan tree branch.

anyways, no pressure biggrin.gif

all welcome. comelah if got time/hands itchin to create sumtin... we keep it chill & relaxed.

janji got a nice looking piece of created steel art that u'll be proud of at the end of an hour... as long as the design not too blink.gif
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post Oct 19 2019, 08:05 PM

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Good for you ts.. But im from terengganu.. Cannot tt ;(
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post Oct 20 2019, 01:34 AM

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Awesome. I've met one bro working in cyberjaya that have the same hobby as yours. He specialized in small knife making iinm. But nevertheless great hobby if you have the passion.
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post Oct 20 2019, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(tinytech89 @ Oct 19 2019, 08:05 PM)
Good for you ts.. But im from terengganu.. Cannot tt ;(
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sad, sad.. if nearby can come & make sumtin.

upside tho - got lot of old skool knife makers in ur neck of the woods. thumbup.gif

i learnt how to make goloks & duku chandong frm a terenganu cikgu.

unfortunately my sifu passed bout 20 years back - else i pass u his details. he was an old skool forger - like the type u want. used lorry spring steels to make knives. sumtimes make damascus keris.

anyways, ask around. for sure got sum1 willing to reccomend/point u 2 sum1 who still forges. prob within 1 km distance frm ur place too.

g'luck! hope to see u post ur beauties sumtime down the line thumbup.gif
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post Oct 20 2019, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(ukapaka @ Oct 20 2019, 01:34 AM)
Awesome. I've met one bro working in cyberjaya that have the same hobby as yours. He specialized in small knife making iinm. But nevertheless great hobby if you have the passion.
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great!

actually, got quite a lot of ppl who make knives & EVEN MORE who r interested to do so also in msia.

i hope to bring these folks 2gether & co-op together.

i'm particulalrly focusin on total noobs/slightly xperienced peeps as i'm in a position to help them make things since i got the materials & tools to get them started.

they dun need to outlay any $. i can provide most of the things they need. just need interest & time.

more experienced/dedicated knife makers though will def have waaaay superior equipment than me. they r also welcome by all means to come & share their knowledge. cyberjaya bro must be quite high level since he specialises in small knives.

sama-sama kita create thumbup.gif

how bout u, ukapaka? got interest? made nytin b4?

i luv 2 see wat other home knife makers have created & how their set ups look. can get ideas/improve mine.
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post Oct 21 2019, 07:23 AM

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not patient nor passionate enough to do delicate crafts like this. But still enjoy watching craftsmans at work. Haha.
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post Oct 23 2019, 08:30 PM

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QUOTE(ukapaka @ Oct 21 2019, 07:23 AM)
not patient nor passionate enough to do delicate crafts like this. But still enjoy watching craftsmans at work. Haha.
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lulz.

why u no smith? laugh.gif

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d2/7f/7a/d27...4f9a3e02c62.jpg


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post Oct 23 2019, 08:35 PM

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knife making, at least for me, doesnt just focus on the art of crafting metal...

my woodworking skills too lvl up like anytin... i do stuff i never thought possible

boken, kendo stick, tonfa, jinga set, etc... all ez can do

think i will do some on weekends & post pix

akan datang...
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post Oct 23 2019, 08:48 PM

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all my smith-ing peeps in shah alam area, i recommend go see this gentleman; Alzaidi Khosni

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcI-LLXwjyo

like me, he will train u for FOC

makes gorgeous knives. self taught. eager to pass on/share knowledge.

pigi belajar lah.. free mah... syiok mah
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post Oct 24 2019, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(CRAFT_COACH @ Oct 23 2019, 08:48 PM)
all my smith-ing peeps in shah alam area, i recommend go see this gentleman; Alzaidi Khosni

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcI-LLXwjyo

like me, he will train u for FOC

makes gorgeous knives. self taught. eager to pass on/share knowledge.

pigi belajar lah.. free mah... syiok mah
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looks good

i always the make a knife of my own too
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post Oct 24 2019, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(kllam @ Oct 24 2019, 10:07 AM)
looks good

i always the make a knife of my own too
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fantastic! thumbsup.gif

got pix? biggrin.gif
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post Oct 24 2019, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(CRAFT_COACH @ Oct 24 2019, 02:58 PM)
fantastic!  :thumbsup:

got pix?  biggrin.gif
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Sorry, missing the word "wanted" on the first post.

What i mean is i always wanted to make


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post Oct 24 2019, 03:12 PM

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I have a few knives.. from kukri to flips, to fixed blade to axes, swords (maybe ~20+, often branded though not all Chris Reeve's la) etc made with various steel.... which I need someone to sharpen. I dont need a mirror finish, just to have it professionally sharpened to better then factory edge (cause sometimes it comes dull as a politician..).


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post Oct 25 2019, 07:05 AM

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QUOTE(kllam @ Oct 24 2019, 03:05 PM)
Sorry, missing the word "wanted" on the first post.

What i mean is i always wanted to make
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lol.

well, lets make that wish finally come true. icon_idea.gif

are u in kj area/can come to kj area?

else if very far - i try find & recommend sum1 else nearer to u.

lemme know. we'll make it happen.

movin along - wat idea of edged tool do u have in mind? > knife, sword, axe, spear, etc?

we are only constrained by ur creativity, my available tools' capabilities and source material constraints.

within these parameters - we can create wonders.

lets get on with making ur beauty & posting the pix here someday! thumbup.gif
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post Oct 25 2019, 08:01 AM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Oct 24 2019, 03:12 PM)
I have a few knives.. from kukri to flips, to fixed blade to axes, swords (maybe ~20+, often branded though not all Chris Reeve's la) etc made with various steel.... which I need someone to sharpen. I dont need a mirror finish, just to have it professionally sharpened to better then factory edge (cause sometimes it comes dull as a politician..).
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nice collection!... if got pix, even nicer tongue.gif

ah, the age old dilemma of putting/sharpening an edge.

for immediate gratification - u can try these guys:

https://www.facebook.com/khidmatasahpisau/

their starting rate is RM 1.50 per inch.

seem to have lot of happy customers in their FB page.

but, if u wanna learn urself how its done/experiment - come on over.

we can talk shop bout the diff edges, grinds, finishes, sharpening angle & how each individual steel alloy's HRC affects the final outcome. can play with my variety of whetstones, sandpaper & finishing buffers on grinders.

i have put differing edges to many a blades over the years with a variety of tools. made the requisite mistakes too. so know firsthand the 'dangers' of putting the wrong bevel & eventual grind... luckily, with experience - also figured out how to overcome this hurdles too. best to start of with tools and finish with hand using a leather strop.

i'm currently perfecting my chisel grind. its somewhats keeps in line with my initial japanese sword making roots as well as greatly compliments the rough & tough bushcraft knives i make these days.

honestly, its a lifelong learning/experimening thing. have seen 'experts' screw up edges coz they were unfamiliar with the bevel. sumtimes it permanently affects/changes the profile of the knife. ex: putting a full hollow grind on a convex grind. so, i can put an edge on a knife that u can shave reasonably well with - but it is dependent on the underlying bevel/knife HRC. i learnt that from trying to sharpen my pure tungsten carbide knife. that was a trying week rolleyes.gif

it has to be understood too that certain knives cannot be edged further beyond the day they were made, without drastic change in bevel, appearance and edge geometry. doing so would effectively reduced its 'lifespan' by removing milimeters from its edge during sharpening - this effectively 'shrinks' the knife.

i'm happy to explain if u ever wanna talk bout it further (my replies will take a long time tho coz i'm still allowed oni 3 posts a day) or meet up straight.

so to that end, consider this an invite - u'r most welcome to come over & talk shop/experiment if keen.

i end this post with this video of the day. look at that gorgeous handle made by this artisan! > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrFoPGmL7h4
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post Oct 25 2019, 08:08 AM

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QUOTE(CRAFT_COACH @ Oct 25 2019, 08:01 AM)
nice collection!... if got pix, even nicer  tongue.gif

ah, the age old dilemma of putting/sharpening an edge.

for immediate gratification - u can try these guys:

https://www.facebook.com/khidmatasahpisau/

their starting rate is RM 1.50 per inch.

seem to have lot of happy customers in their FB page.

but, if u wanna learn urself how its done/experiment - come on over.

we can talk shop bout the diff edges, grinds, finishes, sharpening angle & how each individual steel alloy's HRC affects the final outcome. can play with my variety of whetstones, sandpaper & finishing buffers on grinders.

i have put differing edges to many a blades over the years with a variety of tools. made the requisite mistakes too. so know firsthand the 'dangers' of putting the wrong bevel & eventual grind... luckily, with experience - also figured out how to overcome this hurdles too. best to start of with tools and finish with hand using a leather strop.

i'm currently perfecting my chisel grind. its somewhats keeps in line with my initial japanese sword making roots as well as greatly compliments the rough & tough bushcraft knives i make these days. 

honestly, its a lifelong learning/experimening thing. have seen 'experts' screw up edges coz they were unfamiliar with the bevel. sumtimes it permanently affects/changes the profile of the knife. ex: putting a full hollow grind on a convex grind. so, i can put an edge on a knife that u can shave reasonably well with - but it is dependent on the underlying bevel/knife HRC. i learnt that from trying to sharpen my pure tungsten carbide knife. that was a trying week  rolleyes.gif

it has to be understood too that certain knives cannot be edged further beyond the day they were made, without drastic change in bevel, appearance and edge geometry. doing so would effectively reduced its 'lifespan' by removing milimeters from its edge during sharpening - this effectively 'shrinks' the knife.

i'm happy to explain if u ever wanna talk bout it further (my replies will take a long time tho coz i'm still allowed oni 3 posts a day) or meet up straight.

so to that end, consider this an invite - u'r most welcome to come over & talk shop/experiment if keen.

i end this post with this video of the day. look at that gorgeous handle made by this artisan! > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrFoPGmL7h4
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nice! thumbup.gif
thanks for the invite, will take note of it.

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