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 Getting Singapore PR or Australia PR, Which is recommended for the next Gen?

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limeuu
post Oct 22 2019, 01:02 PM

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It's getting very very difficult to get Oz pr, as they start closing the door.....
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post Oct 29 2019, 07:53 PM

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Singapore is good for the young....but can be unkind to the middle-aged and elderly.....it's relatively easy to get jobs, and the pr comes only with a job....

Australia is good for the long term....your old age, and the next generation....but yes, you will have to pay for that future when you are young...."local experience" is a big thing there, so getting a job from outside is difficult....you can however get a pr without a job....the standard skill based migration is not dependant on having a job....

The main problem now with Australia is, the door is closing....and within the last 2 years, becoming very very difficult to get a pr.....
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post Oct 30 2019, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(Liamness @ Oct 30 2019, 08:04 PM)

Like i have said.. there is a minimum base rate that shouldnt even be there if not for the bulk billing practice.. you will see prices drop on the basic costs of medical checkup, getting medicine, & etc, if it was a true free and open market..

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eh...on the contrary, the medicare "bulk bill" rate controls price, forcing doctors to bulk bill to be competitive and cap prices...

spore on the other hand, removed their schedule of fees 10 years ago, and doctors professional fees ballooned out, without the control....

in an environment of limited supply market, the "free market" forces does the opposite once control is removed....very clearly shown in spore's case....

no, "flooding the market" ala msia doesn't help....it encourages supply driven over consumption, and lowers quality of care....just look at msia at the moment....


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post Oct 31 2019, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(Liamness @ Oct 30 2019, 11:07 PM)
No man.. you've got it all wrong.. I've done an mri scan in sg for under sg300 on my shoulder.. i just walked in and did the scan myself. No doctor referral letter even required. Afterwards, i took the scan and visited a consultant to get a proper diagnosis and subsequent treatment.. Again, all at a minimal charge. The best part was I claimed it all back on my Malaysian private medical insurance. Which you can buy plans from AIA for under 2k rm/year and fully covers treatments in Singapore.. imagine that..

a similar mri scan in aus would be about that price. But first.. you'd have to seek a referral from a specialist.. who also had to be referred by a GP.. add to that the amount of unnecessary wait time, multiple visits to multiple doctors, the costs, and things quickly add up.. it doesn't even matter that universal healthcare is paying for it all.. its BLOODY inefficient and ineffective.. the way I see it, it's just another form of every doctor getting a cut of the pie. And who's paying for this stupidity? YOU, the tax payer!

Why do you pay so much tax for such an inefficient system and at the same price as a singapore doctor.. it's even cheaper if you did it in malaysia.. a mere hour border crossing into JB, as a malaysian, would save you alot of time and money on healthcare expenses. This is something you can also consider if you are based in SG.. you've got access to two countries medical facilities.

It's much harder to do that if you are based in Aus..

Anyways, it's not even a discussion.. cost wise for healthcare, SG and Aus are almost the same. But you are paying shit load more in the form of aussie taxes.. and aussie bureaucracy is a pain in the ass to deal with, especially when you want to cut corners and save critical time... Imagine you have cancer and time is of critical importance (which my father coincidently did, and was getting treatment from Peter MacCallum, one of the best cancer focus hospitals in aus). And let me tell you.. it wasnt nice and a really stressful time waiting to access the oncologists at peter mac..

He subsequently died of the cancer. Whether or not he would've been better off seeking treatment in Malaysia, we would never know..  and before you shoot malaysia.. I would much rather get treatment at any of the private hospitals in malaysia than over a public hospitial in aus. 100%. Our msian doctors are mostly world class and have no issues with them. They are experienced and pretty good enough for me.

I now have first hand experience in all the 3 countries and I rank australia as the worst.. based solely on my father cancer treatment.

When shit hits the fan and you have cancer and you have urgent needs, you cannot depend at all on the public healthcare system in any country to rescue you.. so why are you paying so much tax on a failed system?? When you can use that tax to get yourself a private medical plan and unlock the best healthcare professionals out there quickly..
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it is NOT possible to have a radiological investigation in spore WITHOUT a doctor's request....

and you cannot judge a system on a sample size of n=1....

 

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