'A meeting in coarse cotton, sixpence for leather and laces. Factory hardened arms mix oil and mud. A century and a quarter forward, Gunners together; battles ahead. From those first heavy steps; Men will become gods.'
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Arsenal Football Club was originally founded in 1886 by employees of the the Dial Square workshop at the Royal Arsenal, which was an armaments factory in South-East London, in a district named Woolwich. Consequently, they were first named ‘Dial Square’ A Scotsman, David Danskin is the man said to have bought the first football for the club. Among the first players for the club was former Nottingham Forest goalkeeper, Fred Beardsley who would be the one to obtain a set of red kits, the colour the Arsenal still wear today. The first match for the new club took place on December 11, 1886 in an open field in the Isle of Dogs (another London district) against a club known as the Eastern Wanderers in which the club won 6-0. What is interesting is that other than the date of this match, everything else written so far may possibly be a myth.
By Christmas however, they had changed the name of their club to Royal Arsenal. They originally played on Plumstead Common before moving to Manor Ground in 1888. Royal Arsenal would move away and then return to Manor Ground as Invicta Ground proved too costly for them. Playing in the amateur leagues proved fruitful for Royal Arsenal as they won a couple of trophies and largely outclassed the other amateur clubs from London. But it wasn’t all rosy for them as the professional clubs attempted to sign their players and they were subsequently banned for amateur football for being too professional, which relegated them to only playing friendlies and in the FA Cup. So 1893 in a bid to gain access into the Football League, Royal Arsenal changed their name to Woolwich Arsenal and became a limited liability company, and attempted to buy the Manor Ground. This ended up working and Woolwich Arsenal began life in the Second Division, where they would spend eleven years, generally finishing mid-table every year. Under the guidance of manager Harry Bradshaw, Woolwich Arsenal would gain promotion to the First Division, where they would lose their manager before the season started to Fulham. They would never come close to challenging for the League title due to financial concerns. Their playing grounds were on the South side of London where most clubs in the division were on the North side, and so to stay afloat they were forced into selling their top players, which resulted in smaller attendances for home matches. In 1910 Woolwich Arsenal went into voluntary liquidation as they were on the verge of bankruptcy when Sir Henry Norris, the chairman of Fulham FC, and other businessmen bought the club. Norris was well aware of the financial difficulties of the location of Woolwich Arsenal and so attempted to merge the club with Fulham, and when that failed, attempted to have them play on alternating Saturdays, which also failed. And so Norris focused on finding a new location for the club, eventually setting his sights on Highbury, in North London, which was met with opposition from the fans and the residents of Highbury. Norris forced it through and spent 125,000 pounds on a new Stadium (9.5 million in 2010 prices) Having been relegated back to the Second Division, Woolwich Arsenal would move to Highbury in 1913, and change their name from ‘Woolwich Arsenal’ to ‘The Arsenal. After four years of no competitive football due to World War 1, The Arsenal would gain promotion into the First Division in a dubious way. In the final season of football in 1914, Arsenal had finished in 6th place, but the First Division was expanding from 20 clubs to 22 and two clubs were to be given the extra two places in the division. Chelsea was given the one place, despite being relegated in the previous season. The other club that had been relegated was none other than Tottenham Hotspur, and they were in the running for the extra place along with Barnsley and Wolves, who had finished ahead of Arsenal. Despite all this, Norris argued that The Arsenal should obtain promotion due to their “long service to league football” and the League board agreed, voting 18-8 to promote The Arsenal. It was alleged that they only managed this promotion due to bribery by Norris with his good friend and chairman of Liverpool, John McKenna, and has fueled the long-standing intense rivalry with Tottenham every since. It has also been argued that Norris was aware of match fixing before the war by Liverpool and Manchester United and used it as a tool to be promoted. Whatever the case, The Arsenal gained entrance into the First Division in 1919 and have never left since, holding the record for the longest unbroken stretch of top-flight football.
After some very poor showing and narrowly avoiding relegation, Norris had enough of his manager Leslie Knighton and hired Herbert Chapman in 1925. Chapman would put his stamp on The Arsenal, changing the way the club did things. Chapman changed the training philosophy and physiotherapy regimes and added numbers to the players shirts, a practice that is now common-place across the footballing world. He also altered the kit, adding white sleeves in 1933, and insisted The Arsenal be known as just ‘Arsenal’ so they would be the first club in alphabetical order every time. He even managed to change the name of the nearby tube station from Gillespie Road to Arsenal, which now has a 52 metre mural to commemorate the team’s move from Highbury in 2006. Chapman also changed the way the game was played on the pitch with the new formation now called ‘WM‘ which can also be described as a 3-2-5 or a 3-2-2-3. It proved so successful that by the late 1930s, most clubs had adopted this formation In Hebert Chapman’s first season in charge, Arsenal made their best finish ever in the league by placing second, but the next few seasons had them stay mid-table. Norris allowed Chapman to spend large sums of money however, and nearly won their first ever trip to the FA Cup final, losing 1-0 to Cardiff City. Three years later, and after buying Arsenal greats Cliff Bastin, David Jack and Alex James, Arsenal made the FA Cup final once more, this time defeating Chapman’s old club Huddersfield Town 2-0 and earning the clubs first ever major trophy. They then won the League title for the first time in 1931, recording their best ever win against Grimsby Town, 9-1, which still stands. In 1932 Arsenal lost the FA Cup Final to Newcastle 2-1 after they had a goal that was wrongly awarded as a goal kick. The 1932-33 season would see Arsenal win their 2nd league title. In January 1934, Herbert Chapman would suddenly pass away from pneumonia, but that would not stop the winning ways as they would win the League again that season, as well as 1934-35 and 1937-38 and another FA Cup in 1936. Arsenal were such a strong club that in 1934, England had seven Arsenal players start a match and defeated the then, World Champions Italy 3-2, and is still a record for most players from a single club starting a match for England. On March 9, 1935 Arsenal saw it’s largest ever attendance for a match versus Sunderland, counting 73,295 fans at Highbury. The Second World War would suspend all competitive football for the 1939-40 season, and Highbury was used as an ARP station (Air Raid Precautions), and had a bomb destroy the North Bank roof and setting fire to the terrace. With Highbury taken Arsenal played their home matches at White Hart Lane while football still continued, although the matches do not count in official statistics as star players would play as ‘guests’ for various clubs when not in the armed forces. The war claimed nine first team Arsenal players, the most of any club in the top flight. Arsenal were also afflicted with a heavy financial burden of repairing their war damaged stadium, and consequently struggled when regular club football began once again in 1946, finishing 13th. Tom Whittaker took over as manager and won the League title in the 1947-48 season. They would then win the FA Cup in 1949-50, a 2-0 win over Liverpool. After nearly winning the Double in the 51-52 season, but failing in both competitions, Arsenal won their 7th League title the following year in what was one
of the closest title races ever, narrowly beating Preston North End only on goal average. The title would ultimately prove to be Arsenal’s last trophy for seventeen long years. Tom Whittaker would pass away in 1956, and Arsenal would try and fail with Jack Crayston, George Swindin and Billy Wright as managers, generally finishing mid-table, and having to endure Tottenham winning the double in 1961. On May 5, 1966 Highbury would see it’s lowest ever attendance be recorded with 4,554 in the stands, and having only one player in England’s 1966 World Cup winning squad, a far cry from the successful and prosperous times under Chapman and Whittaker. Wright, then the manager, was fired and the Arsenal board made the odd appointment of their club physiotherapist Bertie Mee to replace him. The appointment of Bertie Mee was so surprising that he himself requested to return to his old role if he proved unsuccessful after one year. Alongside assistant Dave Sexton, Mee promoted players from the youth team, boys who would become household names in Charlie George, John Radford, and Ray Kennedy. Alongside Frank McLintock and Peter Shorey, they reached the League Cup in 1968 and 1969, but losing each one. They managed to make it into Europe for the 1970 Inter-Cities Fairs Cup however, winning it and ending their long trophy drought. The 1970-71 campaign then came, in which Arsenal recorded their first double winning campaign where they won the FA Cup and the League title, winning the league by defeating Tottenham at White Hart Lane on the last day, and defeating Liverpool 2-1 in extra time at Wembley. (And *we* complain about six years. Try 17 and then let’s talk crisis) Sadly the double winning side was broken up shortly after this, and after finishing 16th and 17, Bertie Mee gave his resignation.
Terry Neill would be appointed manager, and his time at the helm witnessed the strong emergence of an Irish core of Liam Brady, Pat Rice, Frank Stapleton, Pat Jennings, and David O’Leary which gave Arsenal a still-strong following amongst the Irish. While Neill’s time at the club was in the midst of the Liverpool dominance, he still managed to direct the club to three FA Cup finals in 1978, 79, 80 but only winning it in 79, when Alan Sunderland won the match in injury time to record a now-famous win. The 1979-80 season saw Arsenal play a record breaking 70 matches and reaching two finals, the FA Cup loss to West Ham and losing the finals in Europe to Valencia on penalties. The summer of 1980 saw Liam Brady leave for Juventus and apart from 1982-83, Arsenal continued to make the top four, but never looked like winning anything. The lost both Cup semi-finals that year and and Terry Neill struggled to manage the club, arguing with key players as a drinking culture immersed itself at Arsenal. After losing to Third Division Walsall in the League Cup, Neill was fired in Decemeber 1983 and replaced with Don Howe, under whom Arsenal would fare no better. And when Howe heard the board had approached Terry Venables (then at Barcelona) he resigned and Steve Burtenshaw was named caretaker while the club searched for a replacement. Alex Ferguson, then at Aberdeen in Scotland, was approached, but he rejected Arsenal and six month later would find himself at Manchester United.
In May 1986 former Arsenal player, George Graham was appointed manager of Arsenal. Graham would slowly sell off older players and promote from the youth team and was able to dictate a stronger sense of discipline at the club, something the previous managers had attempted and failed at. In Graham’s debut season, Arsenal was able to with the League Cup, coming from behind in the final against Liverpool with a double by Charlie Nichols. This was in the midst of a UEFA English ban for European competitions in relation to the Heysel disaster, and so Arsenal missed out on the 87-88 UEFA Cup.
The 87-88 campaign saw Arsenal lose the League Cup final to Luton Town, but Graham was building a squad that would continue to improve with their young defense coming together under captain Tony Adams, Lee Dixon, Steve Bould and Nigel Winterburn. This, buoyed by the terrific midfield of David Rocastle, Michael Thomas and Paul Merson and goal-scoring sensation Alan Smith, in 1989 Arsenal would finally win their first League title since 1971, and would do so in stunning fashion. Arsenal led the league since Christmas, but allowed Liverpool, who were going for the Double, to overtake them by losing to Derby County and drawing at home to Wimbeldon. The final match of the season was at Anfield and Arsenal were required to win by two goals in order to win the title. With 90 minutes gone, Arsenal were up 1-0 when this happened:
And Arsenal were League Champions. Arsenal would have to wait until the 1990-91 season to find success again, and had to do so despite losing two points after a on-field brawl with Manchester United at Old Trafford, and losing Tony Adams for four months when he was sent to prison for drunk driving in December that year. However, they only lost one league match the entire year, and won the title by seven points. After signing Ian Wright from Crystal Palace in 1991 and losing David Rocastle to Leeds United the year after, Arsenal became known as ‘Boring, boring Arsenal’ depending on their stout defense and the goal-scoring prowess of Wright to win games. The FA Premier League was then created for the 1992-93 season, in which Arsenal were one of the founding members, and became the first club to win the FA Cup and League Cup double. The following year Arsenal won their second European trophy, defeating Parma 1-0 in the Cup Winner’s Cup final in Copenhagen.
Arsenal were forced to sack George Graham February 1995 when it was found he had taken an illegal payment of a player. Bruce Rioch took over at Arsenal, who guided Arsenal to the Cup Winner’s Cup Final, but lost to Real Zaragoza from a 40 yarder in the 120 minute; a howler by David Seaman. The summer of 1995 saw him Rioch sign Dutchman Dennis Bergkamp, breaking the English transfer recorded at the time. He was sacked just before the 1996 season over a dispute about the transfer funds. Arsenal then made the audacious and obscure decision to hire Frenchman Arsene Wenger from Nagoya Grampus Eight in Japan to manage their club. Wenger changed the club, completely eliminating the drinking culture that was prevalent at the time, changing the diets and training methods of the players, and brought about a change in tactics. Wenger brought in unknown players such as Patrick Vieira, Nicolas Anelka, Emmanuel Petit and Marc Overmars in 1997 and with George Graham’s noturious defense, Wenger became the first foreign manager to win the 1997-98 League title. Arsenal won the Double that year, winning the FA Cup. Ian Wright left that summer, having broken Cliff Bastin’s goalscoring record, his tally at Arsenal ending at 185 goals. The next few years were trophy-barren at Arsenal, despite signing Freddie Ljungberg and Thierry Henry. The rivalry with Manchester United fired up 1998-99 however as Arsenal finished 2nd in the League to United, and lost the FA Cup semi-final replay in extra time to them as well. The next season Arsenal again finished second best to Manchester United, this time by 18 points, and lost the EUFA Cup final in 0-0 game that went to penalties in Copenhagen to Galatasaray. The 2000-01 season saw Arsenal finish 2nd yet again to Manchester United, and lost in the FA Cup to Liverpool; as well as losing on the ‘away goals rule’ in the Champions league quarter-finals to eventual finalist Valencia.
The 2001-02 season became memorable as Arsenal’s furious attacking side lead by Thierry Henry won the Double for a record-tying third time. Arsenal were the only club to score in every game of the League that season, and went unbeaten away from home. They defeated Manchester United in the FA Cup, before also beating Chelsea in the finals. The 2002-03 was notable when Arsenal became the first club in over 20 years to retain the FA Cup title when they defeated Southampton in the final, but lost out on the League title to United losing their final game of the season at home to Leeds. That Last match day defeat to Leeds would become Arsenal’s last loss for over a year, and the 2003-04 season saw the rise of the ‘Invincibles’ where they won 26 and drew 12 matches, finishing 11 points clear of Chelsea in second place. Preston North End in 1888-89 is the only other team to have ever completed such a feat.
The following season Arsenal extended their unbeaten run to 49 consecutive League matches, an English league football record, when they finally lost to Manchester United. They failed to win the title that year as the newly cash rich Chelsea finished 12 points ahead, but managed to win the FA Cup for their 3rd time in four years. The 2005-06 season was largely disappointing, and Arsenal barely managed to obtain fourth place and their Champions League spot when St. Totteringham’s day came on the very last match day when Sp*rs lost to West Ham and Arsenal won their last ever match at Highbury stadium over Wigan. In the Champions League however, Arsenal made it the Finals against Barcelona, but a silly red card to keeper Jens Lehmann early in the match had Arsenal desperately defend a 1-0 lead for most of the game, before two late goals by Barca took the title away. Arsenal completed the move from historic Highbury to the Emirates stadium July 2006. Highbury was limited to only 38,500 seats after standing was banned in English football, and with the club unable to expand the stadium and needing to increase revenue streams to compete with money-giant clubs like Chelsea and Manchester United, a move down the road to Ashburton Grove was made. To facilitate the move in a manner that did not destroy the club financially, Arsene Wenger was forced to sell off highly paid stars and transition the club with youngsters, while still managing to be highly competitive and keep the fans into the massive 60,000+ stadium. Since the move Arsenal have stayed in the Champions League, qualifying for the competition for 14 years in a row, and have remained competitive in the Premier league, but ultimately collapsing the final months of the campaigns. December 11, 2011 saw Arsenal play at home and marked Arsenal’s 125 year in existence, and Arsenal celebrated the occasion the only way they know how; with style and class. The great-great-grandson of Fred Beardsley, the man who sourced the Arsenal original kit, assisted Vic Akers with the club’s kits and was brought onto the pitch in the pre-game ceremony. Supporters’ Stories were installed on benches outside the Armoury. A sixpence was thrown by referee Howard Webb at kick-off. Inside the players’ tunnel, celebrations of the 5-3 over Chelsea, and Henri Lansbury Sp*rs goal have been included on the walls. Arsenal had the Royal Artillery and Orchestra playing outside the stadium. The 1970s greats Bob Wilson, Charlie George, Frank McLintock, John Radford and Terry Neill were all introduced onto the Emirates pitch, followed by David O’Leary, Paul Davis, George Graham, Alan Smith, Anders Limpar and Ian Wright. Members of the Invincibles then took to the pitch, Ray Parlour, Robert Pires, Jens Lehmann, Lee Dixon, Lauren and Thierry Henry showed up. The great-grandchildren of founder David Danskin carried the matchball to begin the game. They even ensured there was a cannon alongside side the pitch.
Perhaps the best part of the weekend was the Friday prior, when Arsenal unveiled the statues of Herbert Chapman, Tony Adams and Thierry Henry outside the Stadium. So many greats could have been chosen, but it’s difficult to argue with the man who revolutionized football in the 1930s, the winning-est club captain, and the Arsenal’s record goal-scorer.
May there be more greatness to come for the beloved and storied club.
FA Cup Winners (13) 1930 Beat Huddersfield Town 2-0 1936 Beat Sheffield United 1-0 1950 Beat Liverpool 2-0 1971 Beat Liverpool 2-1 1979 Beat Manchester United 3-2 1993 Beat Sheffield Wednesday 2-1 1998 Beat Newcastle United 2-0 2002 Beat Chelsea 2-0 2003 Beat Southampton 1-0 2005 Beat Manchester Utd 5-4 on penalties (after 0-0 draw) 2014 Beat Hull City 3-1 (After Extra Time 2-2) 2015 Beat Aston Villa 4-0 2017 Beat Chelsea 2-1
League Cup Winners (2) 1987 Beat Liverpool 2-1 1993 Beat Sheffield Wednesday 2-1
European Nights 1970 European Fairs Cup winners beating Anderlecht of Belgium 4-3 on aggregate. 1980 Cup Winners� Cup finalists losing on penalties to Valencia of Spain in Brussels. 1994 Cup Winners� Cup winners beating Parma of Italy 1-0 in the final in Copenhagen. 1995 Cup Winners� Cup finalists losing 2-1 to Real Zaragoza of Spain after extra time in Paris. 2000 UEFA Cup finalists losing 4-1 on penalties to Galatasaray after a 0-0 draw and extra time in Copenhagen. 2006 UEFA Champions League finalists losing 2-1 to Barcelona of Spain in Paris.
Arsenal Ladies' Honours
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UEFA Women' Cup Winners 2007
National Premier League 1992/93, 1994/95, 1996/97, 2000/01, 2001/02, 2003/04, 2004/05, 2006/07
National League Cup 1992, 1993, 1994, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2005, 2007
WFA Cup 1993, 1995, 1998, 1999, 2001, 2004, 2007
FA Womens' Community Shield Winners (3+1 shared) 2000 (shared with Charlton Athletic), 2001, 2005, 2006
London County FA Women's Cup Winners (6) 1995, 1996, 1997, 2000, 2004, 2007 Beat Millwall 2-0
National League South 1991/92
London Senior Cup 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 2000, 2004
Youth Honours
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FA Premier Youth League 1997/98
FA National Academy PLAY-OFF Final Under-17s: 1999/00 Under-19s: 2001/02
On bench... expected since tierney play full 90 mins in europa. After international break we should see tierney start in every PL games and kolasinac drop to cup games.
Ozil missing again, i think his arsenal career is finished...
Even mustafi can play in cup games... but ozil cant even warm the bench...
Something bad happened between ozil and emery...
Obviously there is something happening between. Ozil and unai. But the fact of the matter is, even if this was the case, he should still play ozil as say a substitute and ship him out in the summer window. But then we have an idiot as a, manager what to do.
Starting both Xhaka and Guen never goes well tbh, there is nothing much in the midfield if it weren't for Ceballos being there. Either one of them has to be benched, and Torreira needs to go in for a more forward play.
we are the 2nd most consistent team vs bottom-14 teams:
Man City dropped 6 pts vs bottom-14 Arsenal dropped 2 pts vs bottom-14 Chelsea dropped 4 pts vs bottom-14 Spurs dropped 9 pts vs bottom-14 Man Utd dropped 10 pts (7 games) vs bottom-14
we are the 2nd most consistent team vs bottom-14 teams:
Man City dropped 6 pts vs bottom-14 Arsenal dropped 2 pts vs bottom-14 Chelsea dropped 4 pts vs bottom-14 Spurs dropped 9 pts vs bottom-14 Man Utd dropped 10 pts (7 games) vs bottom-14
update:
Man City dropped 6 pts vs bottom-14 (avg 0.86 pts) Arsenal dropped 2 pts vs bottom-14 (avg 0.4 pts) Chelsea dropped 4 pts vs bottom-14 (avg 0.67 pts) Spurs dropped 9 pts vs bottom-14 (avg 1.5 pts) Man Utd dropped 13 pts vs bottom-14 (avg 2.17 pts)
solsjaer will be sacked very very soon...
This post has been edited by Walaoeh!: Oct 7 2019, 01:30 AM
we are the 2nd most consistent team vs bottom-14 teams:
Man City dropped 6 pts vs bottom-14 Arsenal dropped 2 pts vs bottom-14 Chelsea dropped 4 pts vs bottom-14 Spurs dropped 9 pts vs bottom-14 Man Utd dropped 10 pts (7 games) vs bottom-14
Arsenal performance is real bad, i think BourneMouth have better possession, physical and more danger....i really feel bad on yesterday performance, somemore it is at home game...i don't see any danger generated from our end ....we will sure losing more marks if continue performance like this ..
and one question, where is Ozil? is he injured ?
IMHO, about martinelli, i think is just a spark of light, i don't see his potential honestly...Saka also not up to the level....so far the only hope are on Pepe (waiting for his ) and Ceballos ... i think we miss a creative midfield like fabregas, Ozil could fill the gap just need better consistency
Win 1-0, 3-2 are still 3 pts, even though performance not perfect, but it is still better than win 8-0 one game then lose the next game 0-2 to bottom-14 team at home...
This season seems bottom-14 quality can challenge top-6
1. Liverpool 2. Man City 3. Arsenal 4. Chelsea 5. Totts - better sort their mess fast 6. Man Utd - its even a miracle if they can get 6th come end of the season looking at their situation
Arsenal performance is real bad, i think BourneMouth have better possession, physical and more danger....i really feel bad on yesterday performance, somemore it is at home game...i don't see any danger generated from our end ....we will sure losing more marks if continue performance like this ..
and one question, where is Ozil? is he injured ?
IMHO, about martinelli, i think is just a spark of light, i don't see his potential honestly...Saka also not up to the level....so far the only hope are on Pepe (waiting for his ) and Ceballos ... i think we miss a creative midfield like fabregas, Ozil could fill the gap just need better consistency
Seriously, you dunno what really happened or you are pretending.
We have a manager who is self entitled. He thinks he can put ozil aside just because he has power etc.
He forgot that by doing so he wasted 350 k per week and also now he cannot sell ozil anymore at a good price.
Anyways. He really is a typical narcissist type. At this rate, we will definitely not make top 4.
Or even if we do, it's because the other clubs were not doing well.
The best chance of making top 4 was last year and yet he still messed it up.
Every year we mess shit up every time we have the chance to get back up. All I know is we should wait till January or February to see how things fair for us, before getting excited and pancut awal.
Unai not even man managing very well, you could see it with the Ozil case. Last time he said he is going to rest him, how much longer is he gonna rest? Lmao. Then he said others deserves it more than him for a spot in the squad. Not sure how long this is gonna last, but I think at some point he might just lose the dressing room again, just like he did with PSG. For a manager to act this way, it's pretty bad imo. You're suppose to keep things together not cause issues.
His tactics aren't doing well either tbh. Struggling every game in the EPL isn't a good thing.
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Every year we mess shit up every time we have the chance to get back up. All I know is we should wait till January or February to see how things fair for us, before getting excited and pancut awal.
Unai not even man managing very well, you could see it with the Ozil case. Last time he said he is going to rest him, how much longer is he gonna rest? Lmao. Then he said others deserves it more than him for a spot in the squad. Not sure how long this is gonna last, but I think at some point he might just lose the dressing room again, just like he did with PSG. For a manager to act this way, it's pretty bad imo. You're suppose to keep things together not cause issues.
His tactics aren't doing well either tbh. Struggling every game in the EPL isn't a good thing.
For this manager. Even February is not enough. We were supposed to qualify based on the situation in February remember?
Anyway, I dun really trust people who gets too "excited".
Personally the squad right now is a lot better than the squad we have for a while now. Especially with the youngsters stepping up their game. Yet it hasn't been proven as good yet in EPL.
Last time we had Chamberlain, Walcott, Welbeck as sub as well and it has been proven very useful because of the squad depth. So far Unai hasn't really utilized it much outside of making one squad for Europa and the other one for EPL.
Personally the squad right now is a lot better than the squad we have for a while now. Especially with the youngsters stepping up their game. Yet it hasn't been proven as good yet in EPL.
Last time we had Chamberlain, Walcott, Welbeck as sub as well and it has been proven very useful because of the squad depth. So far Unai hasn't really utilized it much outside of making one squad for Europa and the other one for EPL.
At least use the fat pay cheque Ozil la... haiz dunno what happened between ozil and punai...
At least use the fat pay cheque Ozil la... haiz dunno what happened between ozil and punai...
Yeah dumb move tbh, even if you dislike him, I would at least let him play to increase his value in the market. We usually do bad business anyway
I think Ozil is a lost cause already with Punai, so I'd like him to be sold off considering he isn't going to play for us. But.... I think Ozil is just happy to stay with that huge wage tho
At least use the fat pay cheque Ozil la... haiz dunno what happened between ozil and punai...
That's the thing. Isolating ozil makes him at a severe disadvantage. No big team will dare to ever approach emery to give him a, job anymore. The last time he was at psg he managed to fool everyone as no one watches French league anyway.
His career will definitely end after this season. Maybe he can only manage second tier sides like seville. There is only a few egos to manage at arsenal. Imagine big clubs like Real Madrid.
I have said on YouTube as well. This guy has low IQ and is probably suffering from narcissistic personality disorder.
given his current form supplementing our leaky defense. would really like to see him involve more into the transition and growing the younger strikers.
given his current form supplementing our leaky defense. would really like to see him involve more into the transition and growing the younger strikers.
If saka keep performing, it will be difficult for pepe to stay in first team.
No such thing. If he doesn't play Pepe meaning all the convincing he did to get him is all just a lie The Punai won't get that much financial backing in the future if he keeps benching all the players he just invested in.
Strategy tak ade la punai, same shit all the time, zero creativity in the midfield.. having issues with newly promoted club. How low has the club been thanks to this idiot.
As a Liverpool fan, don't look too much into this result. Unai is still good and should be given more time to redevelop your team. Even Liverpool struggle to beat Sheffield.
if ozil was so bad...punai shud juz play him during this match not against big 4 or any other team to justify how bad ozil was..but no.then what do u expect him to do?xhaka till the end of season.gg mid arsenal.
at least under Wenger, Arsenal has identity, playing nice football regardless winning or losing now under punai, we saw most of the players like headless chicken playing boring football, yet still losing or drawing and can't even get 4th place champion, topkek
The manager is just a dumbass in general. His line up pick is just the worse. Holding, Tierney, Torreira and Ceballos should have started yup.
Willock, Xhaka are one of the worse performer really. Leno was causing problems as well, short pass and doesn't know how to kick the ball long, I prefer Martinez, a more decisive keeper, who actually distribute the ball fast for counter attacks. Leno is just shitty tbh, keep holding the ball too long, not sure where to pass and etc. No wonder we are still looking for another keeper.
The lack of anything good in the midfield was a real problem. Torreira would have given us a some steel and good attacking option. Even Ozil can play 200% better than Willock or Xhaka. Useless manager really. Tierney would have given us more speed, better defense and good crosses as well.
Just when everything was clicking and we were attacking well thanks to Pepe being around, Unai just sub him out and our game was a lot worse. Fucking clueless Punai. Not worth watching anymore. Waste of my time. Doesn't know how football works tbh this Punai. Wenger at his worse would still be playing football for us, but this dude doesn't even know how to play football. The Arsenal gameplay, image was totally destroyed now imo. We struggle in every match in the EPL.
Stubborn, clueless man managing. Can't even decide his own captain, can't even pick the right player, lame ass strategy and etc. I question how he handles shit at the club. His study was watching footages and etc to improve the game, but clearly he didn't even bother to watch how his own team perform, because seriously if he did, he would have not played Willock or Xhaka.
Feed up and not willing to watch any live matches now. Same shit all the time. See you guys when we actually get a new manager. Just watch highlights is better really. Cya.
Lol, I just comment je. But yeah if people don't see how bad Unai is, i don't know la. He has enough time now for me. No such thing as needing more time to manage.
Wenger's stubborness still ok, but Unai's is not for me. Play proper football first, then we can talk Punai.
Edu and co doing well btw, he got the signing we needed, which Gazidis and co couldn't. Owner also spend cash on Pepe so can't say they aren't doing ok. It is now just Unai being an idiot for me. Our players actually gooding already, but the strategy and line up let us down.
This post has been edited by Rei7: Oct 22 2019, 11:00 AM
Lol, I just comment je. But yeah if people don't see how bad Unai is, i don't know la. He has enough time now for me. No such thing as needing more time to manage.
Wenger's stubborness still ok, but Unai's is not for me. Play proper football first, then we can talk Punai.
Edu and co doing well btw, he got the signing we needed, which Gazidis and co couldn't. Owner also spend cash on Pepe so can't say they aren't doing ok. It is now just Unai being an idiot for me. Our players actually gooding already, but the strategy and line up let us down.
true true, signings made this season really make me to convince arsenal can make it to the champions league again but but... punai look like wanna play in europa league je
true true, signings made this season really make me to convince arsenal can make it to the champions league again but but... punai look like wanna play in europa league je
Arsenal too good for europa...last time send a bunch of youngster oso can trash europa team
Nah , not for me. I always prefer wenger to stay until we can find some really better manager, this punai I not even heard his name before prior come to arsenal.
Nah , not for me. I always prefer wenger to stay until we can find some really better manager, this punai I not even heard his name before prior come to arsenal.
Anyway, rindu zaman wenger
seriously never heard of Sevilla winning three consecutive Europa title?
And that's Wenger at his worse, not his best. So far for Emery not so good. Personally I would have him sacked. He was suppose to make us better, not this shit that's happening atm.
A lot calling for his head now, so i'm happy for that. Dude doesn't deserve to manage Arsenal. I'll take Wenger back any day. At least I know Wenger will play football, not like last game by Emery.
And that's Wenger at his worse, not his best. So far for Emery not so good. Personally I would have him sacked. He was suppose to make us better, not this shit that's happening atm.
A lot calling for his head now, so i'm happy for that. Dude doesn't deserve to manage Arsenal. I'll take Wenger back any day. At least I know Wenger will play football, not like last game by Emery.
To be fair, this team under wenger could still leak goals here and there and lost to this kind of mid table teams.
But at least under wenger, we got identity and play better football, I'm sure wenger know how to works out with the attacking players that Arsenal got now.
And most important thing is he is not as clueless as this punai. Already so many games into the season still can't decide his first 11 and can't even decide who is the captain, really topkek. As stubborn as wenger is, I think after so many games bad performance from xhaka and pele, he also will drop them into the bench.
To be fair, this team under wenger could still leak goals here and there and lost to this kind of mid table teams.
But at least under wenger, we got identity and play better football, I'm sure wenger know how to works out with the attacking players that Arsenal got now.
And most important thing is he is not as clueless as this punai. Already so many games into the season still can't decide his first 11 and can't even decide who is the captain, really topkek. As stubborn as wenger is, I think after so many games bad performance from xhaka and pele, he also will drop them into the bench.
Why I am deciding not to watch is because we lost our way now. The game is boring, it's not Arsenal, and it's just playing like some midtable club, that's why la.. And yes Wenger would still play football at least, has his methods, and we can still play beautifully.
Yup he wouldn't play Xhaka definitely not, and I'm sure Torreira, Ozil would have more chances to play than that clown Xhaka. Wenger would have decided his choice of captain and definitely a better line up. Altho he might have some questionable line up, but it isn't as bad as Punai.
But I think Wenger wouldn't be joining us again, if we really sack Unai, maybe, just maybe he might help out before a new manager comes in. But that's mostly it, I think after a long vacation, he would rather just watch football now, altho he still would like to manage lol. Give our co-manager a chance as well, he has been good lately. We need a change and a quick one, because I think we will lose a lot of players if this keeps up. Auba, Laca, all could be gone in the next few transfer window.
Q: on whether this team is better than Wenger's last season...
A: In my career, it's normal to have criticism of our work in the difficult moments, of my job, our team, the players. On one hand, we have the supporters and their opinion, and we need to accept that. My focus is improving in the next match, seeing how we can improve on things. Also, it's how we can little by little get ahead, doing our steps in that way, progressing and achieving our immediate target. That's winning tomorrow. We also want to improve things. We are at the beginning of this season and we have won two matches playing very well in this competition, with very good results. We lost a very big opportunity in the Premier League on Monday to finish third in the table. We are now fifth, so we have another chance on Sunday. We know we can improve and we need to improve, so we have to get better in our way. It's one process and here the most important thing is our strategy. Our strategy is, when I was watching the games in my office last season, we changed 10 players out of the 24 players we had. That's 40 per cent, more or less. We are now using new players and some young players to give them chances, to give them confidence playing for the future. We want to have that performance with them. With that process, I'm happy. I'm disappointed in the result on Monday because we had a very good opportunity to win three points. We are in our way and we need to have one strategy. The most important thing is the team and the club, and also that our objective is clear. It's about where we want to get to, where we want to arrive. We are at the beginning and I am very confident. I have belief in the players, in our work, the club's strategy, in every player and in our way with our job.
This post has been edited by lostxkitten: Oct 23 2019, 10:26 PM
our best player on the field vs sheff utd is doing side passing (guendouzi). if playing from the back and passing infront of goal and our keeper lagging all the time are equivalent to more competitive..gtfo punai!
Bellerin doesn't seems that fit still. I'd honestly start Tierney over Kola any day. Kola seems to be enjoying life too much, since there is no Monreal now. Hasn't been performing as good as when he played in his first season.
Defensive problems is still there tbh, with kampung club also struggling, but our attacking when we got the chance wasn't bad at all, could have been 5-3 easily or more if it weren't for their good keeper.
Should start Pepe now, since he scored two goal, his confidence should be high for the next game. As for Punai, get out of this club lol
No wonder he wasn't celebrating after the winning freekick lmao! It's either just a way the board is doing to pressure him, and saying he isn't safe if the performance keeps getting worse, and a replacement is always in the cards. Or Mourinho and Salenhi is just trolling Punai.
It's his local fav club tho. I actually don't want Mou anywhere near the club. But Mou should appear more with Salenhi, just to troll Unai.
This post has been edited by Rei7: Oct 26 2019, 03:02 AM
Meanwhile Leicester scored 9 goals against the Saints.. something we can't even do against them, and always struggle lol, but yeah because one red card, but still lol
Meanwhile Leicester scored 9 goals against the Saints.. something we can't even do against them, and always struggle lol, but yeah because one red card, but still lol
We should appoint Brendan Rodgers rather than fraudmery
This post has been edited by L.Torreira: Oct 26 2019, 09:27 AM
Play from the back and lose strat. I mean everyone know all they need to do is play high pressure games against Arsenal and press us really hard most of the time, and we can't even do anything. Not like we attack as well in some games, we get like a few shots only which is pretty shitty this days.
This post has been edited by Rei7: Oct 26 2019, 01:16 PM
No moaninho at this club pls. He is just a more handsome Sam Allardyce, more boring football.
I'll rather stick with this Spanish Alan Pardew than having him
Mourinho is good for us if our aim is winning trophy. Mourinho always want immediate success, he wont settle for long term plan etc He wanted players that are at their peak performance. He want a trophy. But it will be boring football.
This post has been edited by lostxkitten: Oct 26 2019, 04:08 PM
If Mourinho, just 2 years contract enough. Don't extend to 3rs season as everybody knows he'll create problems on his 3rd season. Atleast he'll build strong defence setup & leave it for next manager to add some attacking.
Mourinho is good for us if our aim is winning trophy. Mourinho always want immediate success, he wont settle for long term plan etc He wanted players that are at their peak performance. He want a trophy. But it will be boring football.
Poor counter attack with Ozil just like real madrid did?
I will take it over the current quality of shit football
I find it cute that people still think the Ozil of today is still the same as the one in Madrid.
I secretly hope he plays tbh.
Would be interested to see what sort of excuses his cult followers will come up with this time when he turns in shit and disinterested displays week in week out again like he has for the last 3 years.
I miss his blind worshippers tagging me telling me how wrong I am. Used to be on average 1 in 5 games, then 1 in 10 then 1 in 20 and then not anymore for god knows how long lmao.
This post has been edited by sigheart: Oct 26 2019, 07:59 PM
Quite the contrary really. I am an Arsenal fan first and foremost and I'd be even happier if Ozil proves me wrong and goes full world class again.
Because if Ozil goes full world class again consistently week in week out you can bet damn well we will be challenging for trophies once again and as an Arsenal fan, couldn't be more happier than that.
But of course a shallow minded blind worshipper who puts individuals ahead of the club wouldn't understand this.
I find it absolutely laughable that the same people calling for Unai to be sacked and how shitty the likes of Xhaka, Mustafi and the other players who needs to be sold or dropped from the team for under-performing, want a player who has consistently under-performed for the last 2 - 3 years to be played and remain at the club. Can't get any better than that lmao.
This post has been edited by sigheart: Oct 27 2019, 12:49 PM
Quite the contrary really. I am an Arsenal fan first and foremost and I'd be even happier if Ozil proves me wrong and goes full world class again.
Because if Ozil goes full world class again consistently week in week out you can bet damn well we will be challenging for trophies once again and as an Arsenal fan, couldn't be more happier than that.
But of course a shallow minded blind worshipper who puts individuals ahead of the club wouldn't understand this.
I find it absolutely laughable that the same people calling for Unai to be sacked and how shitty the likes of Xhaka, Mustafi and the other players who needs to be sold or dropped from the team for under-performing, want a player who has consistently under-performed for the last 2 - 3 years to be played and remain at the club. Can't get any better than that lmao.
Quite the contrary really. I am an Arsenal fan first and foremost and I'd be even happier if Ozil proves me wrong and goes full world class again.
Because if Ozil goes full world class again consistently week in week out you can bet damn well we will be challenging for trophies once again and as an Arsenal fan, couldn't be more happier than that.
But of course a shallow minded blind worshipper who puts individuals ahead of the club wouldn't understand this.
I find it absolutely laughable that the same people calling for Unai to be sacked and how shitty the likes of Xhaka, Mustafi and the other players who needs to be sold or dropped from the team for under-performing, want a player who has consistently under-performed for the last 2 - 3 years to be played and remain at the club. Can't get any better than that lmao.
No one is saying that ozil should stay. He is still a creative option and even if we want to get rid of him putting him on the bench and playing him as a sub or even playing him in the Europa and cup games will ensure his value will not go down further. But the damage has already been done becayse of that clown. And I still think he can be a potential game changer. No one can lose his skill suddenly just like that.
You obviously dunno what you are talking about and look like a emery worshiper.
This post has been edited by TheRant: Oct 27 2019, 03:09 PM
No one is saying that ozil should stay. He is still a creative option and even if we want to get rid of him putting him on the bench and playing him as a sub or even playing him in the Europa and cup games will ensure his value will not go down further. But the damage has already been done becayse of that clown. And I still think he can be a potential game changer. No one can lose his skill suddenly just like that.
You obviously dunno what you are talking about and look like a emery worshiper.
No one is saying that ozil should stay. He is still a creative option and even if we want to get rid of him putting him on the bench and playing him as a sub or even playing him in the Europa and cup games will ensure his value will not go down further. But the damage has already been done becayse of that clown. And I still think he can be a potential game changer. No one can lose his skill suddenly just like that.
You obviously dunno what you are talking about and look like a emery worshiper.
No one is saying Ozil should stay? Oh you will be surprised at how many want him to stay.
Market value? LOL So one of your justifications to play Ozil is just to preserve market value? Ensure? How sure are you Ozil will not continue to be rubbish and push his value down even further as if he still had any to begin with? I find it bloody naive for you to think he still had any market value to begin with ever since we gave him that 350k per week contract. And it became even more obvious in the following transfer windows when it is clear he wouldn't settle for anything less than he is getting right now. Given the handful of clubs who can afford him will most likely not make a move till his contract is over, like it or not he is highly likely to run down his contract and leave on a free whether he is played or not. So whether we play him or not, market value has become irrelevant. Sorry but why waste minutes on a lost cause? even if it is for rotational games like the Europa and cup games, I'd much rather give those minutes to any of our budding youngsters.
And you obviously don't know what you're talking about. I am on the #UnaiOut train as well. He is as clueless as a deer in headlights. Just like you.
No one is saying Ozil should stay? Oh you will be surprised at how many want him to stay.
there's a LOT of people that want him to stay. like, "Ozil will last longer than Emery" kind of stay.
i mean, why make a choice. get rid of both.
in all honesty, i'd like him to have Ozil on the bench if we dont have Tierney/Bellerin. i want ozil out, but if we're not capable of Emery's Plan A which is fullback overload, i'd rather we have a Plan B in the form of a creative mid in the middle. i'd rather he start Ceballos if he hates Ozil so much. honestly i dont care any more about Ozil. but my main gripe is no Torreira and no Ceballos. the continued persistence with Xhaka makes me want to pull my hair out. Guendo is fine, Xhaka if you REALLY want to play him i guess is fine, but no Torreira and no Ceballos.. come on, Emery.
there's a LOT of people that want him to stay. like, "Ozil will last longer than Emery" kind of stay.
i mean, why make a choice. get rid of both.
in all honesty, i'd like him to have Ozil on the bench if we dont have Tierney/Bellerin. i want ozil out, but if we're not capable of Emery's Plan A which is fullback overload, i'd rather we have a Plan B in the form of a creative mid in the middle. i'd rather he start Ceballos if he hates Ozil so much. honestly i dont care any more about Ozil. but my main gripe is no Torreira and no Ceballos. the continued persistence with Xhaka makes me want to pull my hair out. Guendo is fine, Xhaka if you REALLY want to play him i guess is fine, but no Torreira and no Ceballos.. come on, Emery.
The reason why ozil will stay longer then unai is because of his contract and no one will pay his salary. Nothing to do with the fact that people thinks he is god.
And the fact is. Unai is worst than ozil. Ozil was still doing OK before unai came in. I rather unai leave to be honest. Stupidity cannot be cured.
This post has been edited by TheRant: Oct 27 2019, 07:43 PM
The problem is we play boring football, looks clueless in the midfield and keep on dropping points to teams like Watford and Sheffield, heck we even almost lost to Aston villa and the kampung portugese team.
I don't think ppl will give a phark to ozil if the team performing now but the reality is not and ppl start questioning about there is no other attacking or creative midfield option
So if you are the higher hierarchy, you are willing to pay 350k per week and allow a player to lose value while he does nothing and sit quietly collecting his paycheck.
Actually what is Unai type of football? Honest question to those who watched hin regularly before his time with us. It's been more than 1 year now, and yet we still do not know macam mana style dia.
Actually what is Unai type of football? Honest question to those who watched hin regularly before his time with us. It's been more than 1 year now, and yet we still do not know macam mana style dia.
This is why I decided just to not watch the game at all. Clueless manager. Don't see any real strategy that he is trying to push. Team isn't even playing proper football sadly.
Things need to change fast, and Punai is to stubborn to change anything. Dude can't even decide his captain. Which tells a lot.
I find it weird how, UEFA and World Cup refs will look at replays when calling VAR decisions, but EPL ref doesn't even look at the VAR screen to even care.
Emery's game doesn't even improve. It's like we get back up and then collapse again every time. No stability really. So far Unai has improved his English, and also Wenger's legacy when he came to Arsenal
To be fair to xhaka maybe himself don't want to be captain and probably that's why pressure got to him but thanks to punai the great yo apply democracy into this club to let players vote their captain lmao
For starters unai shud remove captain armband from xhaka.give to auba or another player.damage control at least.imagine seeing his name on the start week in week out pn fan already rage.
1. 2 goals lead - can't control game. I dont want to compare with pakweng, but with pakweng. i remember arsenal lead 3-0 vs aston villa early in the game. and tactic wise, pakweng said its enough for goal and win 3-0.
2. xhaka as kapitan. - not able to lift spirit of other players. even his own spirit also fail. cepat koyak.
3. 3 striker. 3 goals by CB. freakin CB. minus the 'disallowed' goal by sokratis.
4. unai stats -
not convincing. granted in PSG banyak stars, and vs farmers team.
epl is another whole new level.
dulu we complain pakweng no plan B or C.
but this guy, plan A also confusing.
This post has been edited by CeDhhVss: Oct 28 2019, 08:36 AM
1. 2 goals lead - can't control game. I dont want to compare with pakweng, but with pakweng. i remember arsenal lead 3-0 vs aston villa early in the game. and tactic wise, pakweng said its enough for goal and win 3-0.
2. xhaka as kapitan. - not able to lift spirit of other players. even his own spirit also fail. cepat koyak.
3. 3 striker. 3 goals by CB. freakin CB. minus the 'disallowed' goal by sokratis.
4. unai stats -
not convincing. granted in PSG banyak stars, and vs farmers team.
epl is another whole new level.
dulu we complain pakweng no plan B or C.
but this guy, plan A also confusing.
With exception of PSG...it seems he already over achieve in arsenal
Went to sleep after first half and woke up to this mess
Reality bites
Even after fielding supposedly good lineup we still failed to play to an acceptable standard. Which lead to the question of emery’s competency or the lack of. No more excuses. Emery need to go.
But if Emery doesnt see how bad he is and keeps playing him, I dont like Emery even more.
seriously if he plays Xhaka one more fucking time. almost feel sorry for Xhaka, because he's clearly not the level of player we want. but Emery keeps playing him.
this is probably the definitive #emeryout moment for me. i've always said i want to wait until we have Tierney/Bellerin in, and if we dont have both, then have Ceballos/Ozil in the middle as a creative outlet.
well we had Tierney, and we had Ceballos. and we still capitulated. and we still have Xhaka in the middle. at this point it's not even Xhaka's fault he's bad, it's Emery's fault he keeps playing.
1. 2 goals lead - can't control game. I dont want to compare with pakweng, but with pakweng. i remember arsenal lead 3-0 vs aston villa early in the game. and tactic wise, pakweng said its enough for goal and win 3-0.
2. xhaka as kapitan. - not able to lift spirit of other players. even his own spirit also fail. cepat koyak.
3. 3 striker. 3 goals by CB. freakin CB. minus the 'disallowed' goal by sokratis.
4. unai stats -
not convincing. granted in PSG banyak stars, and vs farmers team.
epl is another whole new level.
dulu we complain pakweng no plan B or C.
but this guy, plan A also confusing.
How did he even got hired at psg and arsenal with those kind of stats in the first place.
And another thing. He seem pretty desperate for the job. A bad sign.
The only achievement was that he won 3 Europa league. But then it was not taken very seriously at that time.
Of course the fact that he could not manage egos is a big question mark.
The person who brought in this guy is not a very smart guy in the first place.
This ref is shit, doesn't even look at the replay himself. Rigged. Rasuah haram jadah
I have been indicating that this whole football game is rigged. The fact that a referee cannot even be overruled by var says a lot. I have enough of this circus.
If this whole system was not corrupted, wenger would be very close or even supercedes Ferguson in terms of achievement.
Cannot blame wenger for messing up in the end. When the whole system is against you, there is a limitation in how much more you can take.
The beef that I have with wenger is his transfer policies.
The funny thing was. There was no one prepared before wenger left. And I am pretty surprised.
The questions that should be asked in the first place is. How can he be considered when he messed up in his 2 previous job. Yes he won the Europa, but then with a crap league record, he never should have been near the job in the first place.
The league is the bread and butter. We assumed that people know their job when they dun.
As I have implied, he should have left last season when he failed to get top 4 and Europa. Even if he somehow manages to win Europa, his tine is nearly up.
To be honest, I dun think he is just incapable, I think he is suffering from NPD. You dun have to have a football brain to realize that freezing your most expensive asset is always going to back fire towards you. To pay 350k grand a, week and freeze out that player is only going to make matters worse. The only reason why ozil is treated like that is personal and as a manager, you cannot get personal over someone who is paid 350 k per week.
That's why I made that accident comment I make earlier. He is a very malicious person who does not really care how much damage he creates. And he can pretend that he has done a good job. This has already gone beyond capabilities. A sick person is managing our club.
This post has been edited by TheRant: Oct 28 2019, 01:07 PM
To be honest Arsene wenger could have achieved that very easily. The first season he was already in semi final and met a tough atletico Madrid team. He could have even win that team.
Next season, arsenal was in final.
If arsenal was in that competition every season, they would have reach at least the quarters every season.
I have been indicating that this whole football game is rigged. The fact that a referee cannot even be overruled by var says a lot. I have enough of this circus.
If this whole system was not corrupted, wenger would be very close or even supercedes Ferguson in terms of achievement.
Cannot blame wenger for messing up in the end. When the whole system is against you, there is a limitation in how much more you can take.
The beef that I have with wenger is his transfer policies.
They can actually, like World Cup and etc, ref gives the final decision once they saw the screen/replay. But yeah it's pretty rigged in general, imagine if ref actually did a good job, we won't even be below top 4 tbh. The amount of chance we could have gotten a penalty and other chances that have ruled us out because of bad referring. VAR was suppose to fix that, but now even VAR against us.. Not a penalty, but given one, a goal and not given.. VAR is a big joke. FA just doing what bookies want, not really about the sports, all about the money when you look at the bigger picture.
They can actually, like World Cup and etc, ref gives the final decision once they saw the screen/replay. But yeah it's pretty rigged in general, imagine if ref actually did a good job, we won't even be below top 4 tbh. The amount of chance we could have gotten a penalty and other chances that have ruled us out because of bad referring. VAR was suppose to fix that, but now even VAR against us.. Not a penalty, but given one, a goal and not given.. VAR is a big joke. FA just doing what bookies want, not really about the sports, all about the money when you look at the bigger picture.
Too much money involved not to be rigged. Funny thing is, they cannot even try to be less obvious in this. The fact that people in the stadium cannot see the replay is already a big giveaway. And you cannot use logic anymore in putting your bets. Logic does not work in something that is rigged.
I gave up taking this game seriously a year ago.
I knew that there is, something wrong the day man united literally got away with murder on the day they ended the unbeaten streak.
This post has been edited by TheRant: Oct 28 2019, 04:39 PM
People has been sabar with Xhaka for years now, yang depa boo bukan sebab permainan dia buruk semalam (although tak lah bagus mana pun jugak), tapi sebab dia slow nak keluar for substitution
He is very immature. Last time I remember he blamed the team for the lost when it was mostly his mistake. This kid can't reflect why people are boo'ing. Instead of trying to prove others wrong, he makes other hate him even more lol
People has been sabar with Xhaka for years now, yang depa boo bukan sebab permainan dia buruk semalam (although tak lah bagus mana pun jugak), tapi sebab dia slow nak keluar for substitution
boo mula makin kuat lepas dia baling armband kat aubameyang. fan mana tak marah tgk captain behave mcm tu
boo mula makin kuat lepas dia baling armband kat aubameyang. fan mana tak marah tgk captain behave mcm tu
Dia dah mintak maaf ke pasal ni? Belom kan? Memang bodoh dan menyusahkan mamat ni.
To an extent, I can ignore whatever he did to the fans there, the ear-cupping, the F word and all. I disagree with them as it should not be how a captain of our club behaves but I can understand it. You can give it to me, then I can give it back to you too, so tak apa lah. Can tutup mata saja. But what I cannot ignore is the fact that he put himself before the team by showing his frustration with him being substituted, strolling around slowly to the byline and making the team lose precious time and momentum. Then baling armband lagi, apparently Auba had to pick it up from the ground, apa jadah nya Xhaka ni??
A few Gooners sharing story from the stadium that people were not booing him hard for the substitution pun, more like people getting excited for Saka to come in. The booing became more and more when he selamba jalan slow2 keluar, then meletop with the ear-cupping and F word response by him.
Dia dah mintak maaf ke pasal ni? Belom kan? Memang bodoh dan menyusahkan mamat ni.
To an extent, I can ignore whatever he did to the fans there, the ear-cupping, the F word and all. I disagree with them as it should not be how a captain of our club behaves but I can understand it. You can give it to me, then I can give it back to you too, so tak apa lah. Can tutup mata saja. But what I cannot ignore is the fact that he put himself before the team by showing his frustration with him being substituted, strolling around slowly to the byline and making the team lose precious time and momentum. Then baling armband lagi, apparently Auba had to pick it up from the ground, apa jadah nya Xhaka ni??
A few Gooners sharing story from the stadium that people were not booing him hard for the substitution pun, more like people getting excited for Saka to come in. The booing became more and more when he selamba jalan slow2 keluar, then meletop with the ear-cupping and F word response by him.
I'm pretty sure Punai gonna be sacked at some point. Worse coach tbh. There is no unity, dude is shaking things up, making the team less stable, doesn't know how to man manage. I really hope he will be gone soon, because I don't even see how we could win any silverware with this genius.
Also it's very obvious if Xhaka still gets a chance to play, that means the coach is disrespecting the fans as a whole. I think there will be more boos for this kid tho, I hope he will be sold as well.
After 10 PL games, its obvious that the main problem is the coach, not really the players.
The way the fans treat xhaka is harsh. Yes, he made some mistakes cost us points previously, but this game I think he played better than ceballos. Its not his fault that the players voted him as captain, its not his fault that manager start him in every game. Whenever arsenal performed poorly, everybody blame him. He became number 1 scapegoat this season. How many players can tahan this kind of abuse?