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 Arsenal Street Talk | Season 2019/20, ARS v. BOU | EPL | Arteta 1st Match!

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post Nov 21 2019, 07:20 AM

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QUOTE(balachi @ Nov 21 2019, 07:11 AM)
somehow i agree with this. am not really a fan of Jose tacts, but that guy really deliver something wherever he goes.
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To be honest. Neither am I. But then the fact is, he solves many issues at once. That is what Levy sees, and that is why he is a billionaire
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post Nov 21 2019, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(Rei7 @ Nov 20 2019, 03:29 PM)
I'm very surprised by the sacking of Poch tho. I get it still no trophies for them, but they improved a lot under him. Maybe it's good for us at least. Spud downfall I hope lol
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Guess you really underestimate Daniel levy
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post Nov 21 2019, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(teikboon @ Nov 21 2019, 11:22 AM)
got reason for his high salary  icon_idea.gif  icon_idea.gif
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Daniel Levy is the owner of the club. Seriously.
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post Nov 22 2019, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(WhyYouSoSerious @ Nov 21 2019, 08:11 PM)
poch wages around punai too... like the oldman said top up abit get poch.
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And we do not need to pay compensation for punai?

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post Nov 22 2019, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(balachi @ Nov 21 2019, 07:11 AM)
somehow i agree with this. am not really a fan of Jose tacts, but that guy really deliver something wherever he goes.
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Well, it's much more then what he delivers in the pitch. It is what he delivers outside the pitch as well.

His appointment in arsenal would have the same effect as well. That is why I did indicated that we should hire him. Oh well.

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4847542/+1000

Post#1014.

15 million is not a lot of money in football.

But you guys only post base on what you hear and not what you think. Not pointing at you but the rest.

Oh well.


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post Nov 22 2019, 09:58 AM

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If we hire pocchetinno, it's another way of saying we have lost.

Anyway. Arsenal is really a second rate club to Tottenham now.
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post Nov 22 2019, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(balachi @ Nov 22 2019, 12:07 PM)
i like mou before he started using that parked tactic,the way he utilised makelele when at chelsea he is one hell of a manager, he control everything. unlike emery, example like his dispute with Ozil. if it was Mou we can see that Ozil will totally vanished from the club like when in Madrid. My point is, Mou is a direct person, if he see a problem he solve it directly. that is what i do not see in emery.

If...he is the one who replacing emery,im gonna question the board. because mou is basically the opposite with arsenal philosophy.  We will hardly see our youth given chances and our famous free flowing attacking football.
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Well. I am sure you will still see attacking football at home.

As for youth. Well they will still be playing in Europa and the cup games

Anyway. To be honest. No other manager can save arsenal. Even ljunberg. Do you seriously think ljunberg appointnent will prevent say aubemayang and lacazette from leaving.

As I have said mourinho appointment solves many issues at once.

Desperate times call for desperate measures.

You think levy did not know about those things when he hired mourinho?

People say that he is a chequebook manager. Well his net spend in Porto and inter Milan is not that much actually.

If you are not questioning the board now, then I think you have problems as well.

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post Nov 22 2019, 06:13 PM

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QUOTE(Thumpy Ick @ Nov 22 2019, 01:54 PM)
so what would have to happen for you to accept Emery again?

imo the main thing that Emery needs to improve if he is to stay as Arsenal manager, is the defensive stability in terms of defenders and midfielders. there's no confidence in the team right now, there's no attacking identity, whatever high pressing Emery introduced early in his Arsenal career has gone i dont know where.

IMO the goals are always going to be there when we have players like Auba, Laca, Pepe and Ozil. but when the team's constantly getting attacked these guys are not going to get the ball enough to even start an attack.

so in my opinion, if Emery tightens up and we start getting clean sheets in at least 3 out of the next 5 games, i'm willing to just let Emery stay.

do i think it's possible? big fat no, and i want him out. but if Emery wants to keep his job, imo start by massively improving the defensive structure of the team, because i'm not as worried about the goals when you have a worldclass poacher in Auba and the other guys.
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Laughable.
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post Nov 23 2019, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Nov 23 2019, 12:55 PM)
Senang je...just win the next 3 or 4 games to quell the #emeryout camp for now
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Shows how easily people can be manipulated. Most people really cannot think for themselves. Really a pity.

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post Nov 23 2019, 10:34 PM

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They guy is really good in marketing himself with all his stupid gestures and PowerPoint slides.
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post Nov 24 2019, 12:39 AM

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QUOTE(ssmuhd84 @ Nov 24 2019, 12:39 AM)
This is home game against 2nd bottom club. Need to win please!
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Curious. You put money into this is it?
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post Nov 24 2019, 12:42 AM

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QUOTE(vassilius @ Nov 24 2019, 12:40 AM)
Arsenal will not win anything. Reason is not because of the manager or the players, it's the fucking useless Board of Directors. Look at Spurs... they learned from those winning side like RM, City, Chelsea, Bayern, which is to be ruthless! They just fucking sacked Pochetino if he is not winning... it's all business, no time for feeling and lovey dovey shit.

I double bet that Arsenal BOD will stick with Punai for another 2 seasons while we continue to flop. Expect for the worse guys...
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Nah. Will be gone end of the season but it's too late already.
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post Nov 24 2019, 12:44 AM

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Well 17 shots also does say a thing. Anyway it's obvious this is fixed.
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post Nov 24 2019, 03:09 AM

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I still dunno why you guys subject yourself to this torture. My regret is buying that arsenal Jersey in the first place and contributing to this crap. To be honest. Whatever action they do from now onwards also useless. Even klopp cannot save this team.

As for emery. Well. I guess he has succeeded. He has single handedly made arsenal a mid table club like Liverpool in 2009. His daughter must be very proud of him. Situation could have been very different things if he got into champions league this season. But guess he really is a destroyer. I dunno. As I have said he is a pretty sick guy.

Seeing arsenal lose or draw actually make my day now. Fact is, Tottenham is a much bigger club then arsenal. That's why top management is so good important and letting David Dein go is the start actually.

If i were the American owners, I probably write out arsenal as, a failed investment by now. Arsene started the mess and now this guy. Dun expect any further "investment" from them anymore.
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post Nov 24 2019, 03:23 AM

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I guess his daughter is going to be a fraud like him in the future as well. If he has any dignity, he would just post his resignation letter. His contract is going to be over end of this season. So he is not going to get much anyway. Why continue stealing from the club that has already probably given you 8 million pounds and you are probably only getting 4 million pounds more.

Really hope for some reason he loses everything one day and just be in the streets. This kind of person probably cannot manage his finance as well. He can be a real clown then.
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post Nov 24 2019, 03:29 AM

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Anyone who still says that hiring mourinho was not a good decision really has a, screw lose on their head. To le go of pochattino, only 12 million pounds. That's not a lot of money in football terms. But then exchange him with someone who will most likely not only do well in first 2 season but I guess most likely for the entire tenure. And actually ensure club stability.

Bu the way, that guy who posted suggesting that emery should stay. Must have got a, screw lose at his head as well. A faillure in real life like Emery.

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post Nov 24 2019, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(Thumpy Ick @ Nov 24 2019, 10:09 AM)
but surely a loss, or even a draw against lowly Norwich would end Emery. only an idiot would keep persisting with the current stale state of the club. Raul and Edu dont strike me as idiots.
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In a sense they are. Or maybe they are not. They are just yes man who takes order from the top. Just like most people are to be honest. They are just there to do the job that's all.

And you dun seem too intelligent to be honest.
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post Nov 25 2019, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(Thumpy Ick @ Nov 25 2019, 09:14 AM)
hahaha, ahhhh now i get it. it's probably because of my devil's advocate post before the game about "what should emery do if he wants to stay".

fair enough, i think i did hint on my opinion on emery, but i probably shouldve made it loud and clear. i'm pretty firmly in the #emeryout camp, but my anger has evolved from towards Emery, to the management. I've long since accepted Emery is a limited manager and he's not the level that we need. just imagine letting your drunk friend drive the car, then getting angry at your friend for causing an accident. you're the idiot for not taking charge and driving the car yourself. similarly, getting angry at Emery who's not a top level manager will lead us nowhere. he's not going to voluntarily leave is he? the board needs to sack him.

for me, emery out is not negotiable. no arsenal fan that actually watches games are going to argue. but since the board are not making any moves to sack him, i was wondering what would need to happen in the next 5 games in order for Emery to at least say, he deserves to stay. essentially, the core of the question was asking what is the main thing that needs to improve for us, and in my opinion it's the defensive stability. because we cant create attacks if we keep getting dispossessed playing out the back etc. i dont think attack is the main problem, because we just have guys that can score. defending, it's a team effort.
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Anyway. I apologize if this is really your opinion because I am pretty sick of flip flops. And you can pretty much see that in AFTV and also the other blogs. If those people really have a brain, they would have probably demanded that Emery leaves after Baku. But the fact that only most of them started seeing what Emery is like for the past few weeks goes to tell me that they are flip floppers and dun really have a brain. And it was a mistake that I accepted "emery" after what seems to be a ok transfer window and the fact that he did managed to get some results after that. Of course I was still Emery Out but then I was thinking maybe he could just leave after the end of the season because forcing him out would be damaging to the club since the club was still doing ok at that time and that they could probably still qualify for the champions league at that time because the players were still pretty good and I dun think you need to be a genius to lead those group of players to champions league spots.

The funny thing is people are still feeling sorry for him and say that he is a nice guy despite him getting paid 6 million pounds per year. And that for me is mind control at it's finest. I am "sorry" but most people just really cannot think. The people who we should feel sorry are those who are not earning much and yet are still fired from their jobs because of some political backstabbing. And if he is really a nice guy he should have left right now on his own because the thing is, he will not be getting much compensation anyway since he is already 18 months in a 24 months contract. Of course, I am now starting to realize that those people do not really mean what they say anyway and this is probably their avenue of making money.

The thing is, anyone who hires Emery after this round is really an idiot unless you are a semi pro side that do not play professionally. Funnily, the longer he stays, the more he is actually shooting himself in his foot. For just 3 million, he wants to damage his reputation further and tells the whole world that he is a club destroyer.

My other point is, from my observation, most people are just interested in doing their job and are not really interested in solving problems unless they really need to. Just by looking at banks, you kind of know. They could have made life very much easily by opening on say Sundays and then maybe closing their branches on a weekday. But then they dun. Ever wondered why account openings still have to be manually done at their physical bank when it can be easily done online? Even my betting account. For some reason that website is being maintained every Friday at between 2:00pm and 5:00pm. The funny thing is, this is the period of time where activity is supposed to be pretty heavy for obvious reason because most asian sporting competition are at this period of time. I can give many other examples. I would think people are not so stupid to realize all those things but then most people do not want disruptions. Of course I am deflecting from Arsenal matters but then what I am trying to imply is, it's obvious Raul does not really care for the club but rather his own interest. There is no benefit from his side to sack Emery. He probably is thinking that there ist too much trouble sacking Emery because he now have to replace Emery and there is no suitable candidates for that at the moment that is going to be cheap. Of course, the idea that replacing Emery with an interim manager does not come into his head.

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QUOTE(Walaoeh! @ Nov 26 2019, 10:30 AM)
Not much choices if we sack emery now:

Allegri - proven only in italian league and most experience in winning silverwares. But he had an easy job as he inherited a dominating team from conte. Now even sarri can easily win the serie A with juventus. So, not sure if he can bring Arsenal forward in the most difficult league. And he is also another gd ebening coach who cant speak english, will have communication problem with players and fans

Arteta - inexperience, i’d prefer ljungberg to takeover than get arteta as head coach

Poch - great choice but he is more likely to join bayern or man utd than arsenal

Benitez - currently struggling in chinese league, i’d prefer to give chance to ljungberg/arteta than this guy

Ljungberg - if we cant get any top class coach, then we should give him chance as interim manager and see how he perform. And hope he doesnt do a solsk.
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Why not benitez. If he is really struggling in Chinese league, then it's a good opportunity to get him on the cheap.

Maybe china is not suitable for him but he has proven himself in England
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QUOTE(Jekferos @ Nov 26 2019, 10:48 PM)
I second this. just let freddie take the helm for the rest of the season. couldnt be any worse than we already are
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Well. I guess having Freddie here will ensure aubemayang and lacazette will not leave.

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