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 a pain using a big bike (650cc above) in traffic

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alexei
post Jan 31 2020, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(deadwolf @ Jan 30 2020, 03:19 PM)
Yup that's the one  biggrin.gif Yea the NC has engine braking, but less than my er6n. The thing I noticed is that the NC's power delivery and acceleration is very smooth, so the engine braking when you shut the throttle too fast feels really abrupt in comparison. Whereas er6n acceleration and engine braking both feel "similar" to each other, if you get what I mean (not sure how to describe it further  hmm.gif )
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Upgrade you say? What bike do you have in mind?
No put fon number then buyer need to have mudah account to PM you.
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post Jan 31 2020, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(ajaibman @ Jan 31 2020, 10:41 AM)
Need to practive more, the gap between cars in Klang valley when during Jam in avearge still have space for bike to move in between, different if you need to go through jam in Penang George town for example since its sidemirror to sidemirror wide...

Was commuting using an aircooled Murica cruiser (the one that will cook your balls when stuck on traffic) before with side panniers to KLCC and back then changed to boxer engine powered bike.. but now downgrade to a scooter  (For commuting purposes) after I found out cost replacing clutch of liquid cooled boxer engine expensive as f!$$! hahaha...

So not about the bike width when it comes to traffic jam, but more to conserve my clutchplates..  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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also the position of my side mirror and also its height. i can't make myself to fold it up like what they do for those kapcai.
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post Feb 2 2020, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Jan 31 2020, 10:54 AM)
Upgrade you say? What bike do you have in mind?
No put fon number then buyer need to have mudah account to PM you.
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Thanks for the tip re: phone number; totally forgot about that!

Planning to get a z900 or MT09. Currently leaning more towards the z900 due to its compact size. After riding the NC700X and er6n side by side for several months I realised that while the NC is more comfortable and economical, I still prefer the er6n's compact size and low seat and tighter suspension especially for commuting in traffic and weekend riding. z900 seems like a logical next step since its also quite compact and low for a superbike.

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post Aug 2 2021, 02:04 AM

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I ride a 350cc cruiser and riding in inner city traffic is not difficult but no way can I compete with kapcais as I tend to cruise more. I have to pay attention when it concerns squeezing in between cars because I note the height of mirrors of some cars are the same as my mirrors. I agree with someone who said he who is skilled in balancing his ride has the edge in heavy traffic.
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post Aug 2 2021, 07:03 PM

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post Aug 5 2021, 12:45 AM

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QUOTE(badaveil @ Aug 2 2021, 02:04 AM)
I ride a 350cc cruiser and riding in inner city traffic is not difficult but no way can I compete with kapcais as I tend to cruise more. I have to pay attention when it concerns squeezing in between cars because I note the height of mirrors of some cars are the same as my mirrors. I agree with someone who said he who is skilled in balancing his ride has the edge in heavy traffic.
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Yeah, the mirrors are really crappy. My previous bike's mirrors were lower. Hence, no problems. My current one rclxub.gif Have to be very careful. But when it comes to big bikes running in traffic, it kinda depends. My previous 600 was an inline 4 and it was a little more difficult to ciluk as the CG was a little higher. My current one is much easier to get around traffic due to better CG and also lower weight. I think most naked 650 twins or V as in my case, and above should be pretty easy in traffic.

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post Feb 26 2025, 04:21 PM

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Hi All,

Want to seek for an advice.

Previously I am riding XMAX 250 and now I change to the latest Honda CBR 650R eClutch.

Everyday I travel more than 100km with my wife to work.
Cyberjaya (Home) > Shah Alam (Wife Office) > KL (My Office) > Shah Alam (Wife Office)> Cyberjaya (Home)

I find that my arm feel will like pain or malay we call it as lenguh .. Is that any tips to prevent this?

Last time with XMAX I do not have this kind of issue. I think maybe my riding position is incorrect.
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post Feb 26 2025, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(static_365 @ Feb 26 2025, 04:21 PM)
Hi All,

Want to seek for an advice.

Previously I am riding XMAX 250 and now I change to the latest Honda CBR 650R eClutch.

Everyday I travel more than 100km with my wife to work.
Cyberjaya (Home) > Shah Alam (Wife Office) > KL (My Office) > Shah Alam (Wife Office)> Cyberjaya (Home)

I find that my arm feel will like pain or malay we call it as lenguh .. Is that any tips to prevent this?

Last time with XMAX I do not have this kind of issue. I think maybe my riding position is incorrect.
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with pillion, cant avoid it especially if she 'rebah' badan on you and in slow traffic. hahaha. But if she able to sit well, hug the tank and relax your arm.

without pillion, hug the tank using your hips and relax your arm.

This post has been edited by marsha1l: Feb 26 2025, 04:46 PM
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post Feb 26 2025, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(static_365 @ Feb 26 2025, 04:21 PM)
Hi All,

Want to seek for an advice.

Previously I am riding XMAX 250 and now I change to the latest Honda CBR 650R eClutch.

Everyday I travel more than 100km with my wife to work.
Cyberjaya (Home) > Shah Alam (Wife Office) > KL (My Office) > Shah Alam (Wife Office)> Cyberjaya (Home)

I find that my arm feel will like pain or malay we call it as lenguh .. Is that any tips to prevent this?

Last time with XMAX I do not have this kind of issue. I think maybe my riding position is incorrect.
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use your body core and knee to hold on the tank.
keep your hands ligh on the handlebar, dont grip it too tightly and make sure it is bent.
also maybe invest in a top box with a backrest for your wife to relieve some weight off your back.

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post Feb 26 2025, 06:16 PM

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QUOTE(Patent @ Feb 26 2025, 05:53 PM)
use your body core and knee to hold on the tank.
keep your hands ligh on the handlebar, dont grip it too tightly and make sure it is bent.
also maybe invest in a top box with a backrest for your wife to relieve some weight off your back.
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Topbox on a sportbike not nice laaa biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(JustForFun @ Feb 26 2025, 06:16 PM)
Topbox on a sportbike not nice laaa  biggrin.gif
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got sport touring look can la laugh.gif
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post Feb 26 2025, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(ajaibman @ Nov 8 2019, 11:15 AM)
If using highway  most of the commuting activities daily, better get atleast 250cc bike so can sustain the highway average car speed for a safer riding...

And tubeless tire with rim is a must....

but if goiing downtown KL which has side to side mirror jam.. Small CC scooter is the winner...

Dont be like me

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Why tubeless tire with rim is a must?...can ajar sikit please?
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post Feb 26 2025, 08:08 PM

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QUOTE(wigneswr @ Feb 26 2025, 06:32 PM)
Why tubeless tire with rim is a must?...can ajar sikit please?
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Tubeless more reliable n less prone to punctures. Easier n cheaper to fix.

Tubes, the friction between the tube n the tire can cause premature wear casing punctures..... N tubes for big bikes arent cheap.
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post Feb 27 2025, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(wigneswr @ Feb 26 2025, 06:32 PM)
Why tubeless tire with rim is a must?...can ajar sikit please?
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It's not a must.

It's just easier to fix a flat with tubeless.


In order to fix a flat on a tube wheel, you have to remove the wheel and unseat the tyre from the wheel to pull the tube out. The tough part is breaking the bead and prying out the tyre, especially on a big bike where the side wall can be stiff.

Kapchai sized tyre no problem.

As you can probably imagine, everything on a big bike is tougher.


However off road people still prefer to use spokes and tube, as the rim is more resistant to crack (more likely will bend and repairable) and will still hold air if slightly bent. Harder to fix but more reliable and fixable (not all tubeless punctures can be fixed) if stuck out in the middle of nowhere.

Pros and cons.


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post Feb 27 2025, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(static_365 @ Feb 26 2025, 04:21 PM)
Hi All,

Want to seek for an advice.

Previously I am riding XMAX 250 and now I change to the latest Honda CBR 650R eClutch.

Everyday I travel more than 100km with my wife to work.
Cyberjaya (Home) > Shah Alam (Wife Office) > KL (My Office) > Shah Alam (Wife Office)> Cyberjaya (Home)

I find that my arm feel will like pain or malay we call it as lenguh .. Is that any tips to prevent this?

Last time with XMAX I do not have this kind of issue. I think maybe my riding position is incorrect.
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You are just probably not used the the riding position of the new bike. Takes some getting used to. Every time on a new bike, I will feel sore for the first week.


As for pillion, helps that the pillion can support herself somehow with perhaps better hand holds points or a top box with back rest. You can also invest in a tank mounted pillion grab handle.

As for riding position (and this applies to every bike) if you can train and strengthen your core muscles, it will help take the load off your shoulders and arms. Squeeze the tank with your thigh to support yourself. Your shoulders and arms should be relaxed with no weight on them. Keep the elbows bent, out and up (like what the super Moto guys do albeit less extreme) and unloaded. If you are stiff and tense, it will fatigue you even quicker. You need to feel relaxed on the bike. (Being loose on the bike also is a safety benefit, you have better control and quicker responses than if you are all tied up and stiff)

Make sure you adjust the brake levers to the proper angle (most are wrong from the factory)

This helps if your pillion leans onto your back when riding. Will enable to support herself better.
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This post has been edited by jaycee1: Feb 27 2025, 11:29 AM
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post Mar 6 2025, 06:47 PM

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I semi daily my Duke 200 from Damansara to Kayu Ara. The bike wider than kapcai so I don't split lanes at that high of speed. If there is gap in moving traffic I sometimes move aside to let the kapchais through
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post Mar 7 2025, 10:32 AM

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1 key point in riding in traffic and filtering barring the larger physical dimensions on the bike is good clutch play, rear brake and low speed balance. It will come to you with seat time.

The Titi test is there for a reason.

This post has been edited by jaycee1: Mar 7 2025, 10:33 AM
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post Mar 10 2025, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Mar 7 2025, 10:32 AM)
1 key point in riding in traffic and filtering barring the larger physical dimensions on the bike is good clutch play, rear brake and low speed balance. It will come to you with seat time.

The Titi test is there for a reason.
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Sooner or later you will get used to it, I swiping my MT07 at traffic smoothly.

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