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mr_tuzki
post Apr 7 2020, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(David900924 @ Apr 6 2020, 03:39 PM)
i make it up, my IB received my USD from Maybank, in less than 30 mins!! super fast. Maybank is the best.
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How much are the bank charges? And the rate?

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post Apr 16 2020, 02:51 AM

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How do you all withdraw back from IBKR to MYR? Would need to open a SG bank account of a Malaysian foreign currency account?
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post Apr 16 2020, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(erizdagreat @ Apr 16 2020, 04:00 PM)
Just transfer straight to your MY account. It's not expensive.
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How much are the bank charges and forex how much above the spot rate?
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post Apr 17 2020, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Apr 16 2020, 10:59 PM)
Go check xe.com. Make a tranafer back and you will know your answer. Minus how much you received vs what's shown on xe.com is how much the bank takes.
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Yes I know that. I think the bank is gonna take a lot that's why I was asking info from those who have done it.
At the moment, I'm transferring MYR to USD using Instarem which is pretty cheap. Just worried when I wanna withdraw, transferring the other way USD to MYR using conventional TT is gonna be super expensive.
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post Apr 24 2020, 03:38 AM

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QUOTE(esyap @ Apr 22 2020, 11:32 AM)
Hi anyone know how I can enter a 'stop loss' or 'Profit target' into an existing stock for IBKR. I can find the SL & PT wen entering a new order, but not sure how to do it for an existing stock that oledi bought. Thanks for any input.
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Click Sell. And you can select a Stop or Stop Limit Order

QUOTE(Ramjade @ Apr 23 2020, 12:03 AM)
Read slowly and re read what moosset have to say.
To summarise what he said
MY Bank -> Transferwise/Instarem (valid EUR, SGD, HKD,) -> IBKR EUR, SGD, HKD account. You will get either EUR, SGD, HKD (whichever currency you choose to put into IBKR when you transfer money using transferwise or instarem)

From the EUR, SGD, HKD you deposited into IBKR, you convert into USD on IBKR platform for USD. Reason is IBKR does not accept USD from 3rd party (fintech). They only accept USD from US banks in your name (if you Want to have USD)

IBKR exchange rate = real time = cheaper than any fintech. No hidden charges. Pay USD2.00 to exchange how much money you want.
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Is there any difference, say:
MYR->EUR->USD
MYR->SGD->USD
MYR->GBP->USD etc, assuming all conducted at the same time?
I assume they should all give the same amount of USD?

Anyone ever transferred bank from IBKR? Not possible to use Instarem/TW right. Direct wire to your name, so easiest would be a SG bank account, or a Malaysian foreign currency account? What are the bank charges involved & the forex spread?
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post Apr 24 2020, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Apr 24 2020, 08:05 AM)
No difference.
Not really. Depending on the middle currency.

Yes been there done that. IBKR-> SG bank account. Free  of charge as it's considered local transaction. SGD->SGD
IBKR give you one free withdrawal a month. If you exceed that you pay I think USD25/withdrawal.

I don't transfer back to RM. For what?  My RM once transferred out is considered one way ticket. It's never coming back to Malaysia (I don't intend to bring money back to mslaysia)
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So pessimistic on MYR / Malaysia future.. haha.
Ok, Need to figure out a way to open SG account.
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post Apr 25 2020, 08:14 PM

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What's the best / easiest way to open a Sg bank account, without having to physically go there? I thought it was quite difficult to open an Sg bank account unless you're a PR / have a long term resident visa? Is it possible to open ask our Malaysian Maybank / CIMB branch to open a corresponding account with their Sg counterpart?
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post Apr 30 2020, 01:34 AM

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Just wondering which IBKR platform do you all mostly use? TWS, Webtrader or Mobile? I think most serious investors use TWS? But to me it seems so complicated and the UI looks like its was created in the DOS age. I mostly use Webtrader / Mobile only. I think TWS is more powerful and gives you more options as well, but every time I try to use it I'm at a total loss.
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post May 8 2020, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(tadashi987 @ May 7 2020, 12:48 PM)
TWS is way better
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How do you use TWS? I find it so complicated and the UI looks so backward. I think it has more capabilities than the Webtrader/Mobile though. But I've tried it a few times and just couldn't stand it.

QUOTE(livellorT @ May 8 2020, 12:30 AM)
Q1, IBKR in the first place is DIY buying and selling. commission is charged for each trade. u need generate total usd 10 commission to waive the 10 usd maintenance fee per month
Might as well go for Tradestation global whitelabel of IBKR no monthly maintenance fee
(Thinking of that)

Q2. can but bank charge TT very costly, read the first post on the most cost efficiency way
(But I thought those online transfer platform such as Instarem will directly deduct fund from local bank account, not?)

Q3. not sure about this, not recommended also thou, malaysia inward remittance fee also costly, might as well for got CIMB SG no inward remittance fee
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Q4. dont understand your question, what means by "automatically available in IBKR?"
(Ramjade have answered this)
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ May 7 2020, 11:22 PM)
1. Yes. What do you mean owns elf buying and selling? Of course is owns elf buying and selling unless you give people your username and password.
(like tadashi987 mentioned IBKR is DIY buying and selling, so basically each trade I buying and selling will incur that commission and won't it easily hit that usd10?)

2. For now USD transfer does not work. EUR works. Not sure about currency.
(how about SGD?)

3. Can. You pay higher cost that's all. Some say worth it to pay higher cost. Save all the hassle of opening abc account. But when you re doing it recurrently over time it adds up. Eg you are supposed to received RM10k but because you usse banks, maybe you received only rm9800.That's RM200 gone to the bank. That's just one time. Eveytime you direct transfer to Malaysia, that's what happen. Something to think about. So up to you to think if you want to give banks free money. I know I don't. Instarem cannot received money. It's purpose is only to transfer money to an overseas bank account at a cheaper rate than what bank charge you so you get more foreign currency/RM vs if you use banks.
(Wait, I still need an US account to receive that fund then only transfer to IBKR. Still confuse on how to deposit fund into IBKR.)

4. Yes. You register with Whitelabels.Then you login to interactive broker using the username and password provided. Funding all goes into IBKR.
(Noted)

Kindly read first page.
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1. The activity fess are less your commissions generated. So say you generated USD4 in commisions, the activity fee is USD6. TSG global if not mistaken is USD1.50/trade, vs USD0.35/trade for IBKR. So if you buy/sell <7 times/month probably use TSG, otherwise choose IBKR. Also, if I'm not mistaken, the first 3 months on IBKR you're not charged the minimum $10/month fee. So you could try it out first and later switch to TSG if low volumw.

2. Yes every currency is okay, SGD, AUD, GBP etc, except USD you have to double covert (no big deal though all you lose is USD2/conversion)

3. No you don't need a US account. Just use Instarem to transfer to IBKR account in EUR, then in IBKR press one button to convert to USD

4. Yeah, after registering with TSG you can forget about TSG. Everything after that is just the original IBKR - website, login and all.

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post May 9 2020, 12:42 AM

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QUOTE(joeblow @ May 8 2020, 11:51 PM)
Hmm, almost all my trades are 5 to 10usd per trade. If you buy 2000 shares (those less than 15usd per share) at one go, it will easily costs 10usd. Unless there's a cheaper way to trade? I use the Fixed Costs mode.
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Why so small. And yes use tiered its around USD0.35 / trade
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post May 14 2020, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ May 14 2020, 06:45 PM)
Form what I read can. But you need to sell think about bringing money back to Malaysia too if you really want to bring.

IB-> CIMB SG ->CIMB MY is one of thr cheapest way vs IB -> Malaysian banks

So your choice. biggrin.gif
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Why CIMB SG specifically? What about say, Maybank SG?

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post May 15 2020, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ May 14 2020, 11:03 PM)
Because maybank not cheap if compare with Cimb
2ndly maybank got charges while Cimb is free.

This is only applicable for Cimb SG only not Cimb My.
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Thanks. But I just checked. They say Cimb FastSaver only can open in Malaysia if you're a preferred customer.
Maybank no such requirements? What's the higher fees / rates involved if using Maybank?



QUOTE(TOS @ May 15 2020, 11:48 AM)
Thanks, but not into HK shares at the moment. Converting from HKD to SGD in IBKR would add to some more commissions. Would be better off using Instarem if this is the case, no?

That said, is there no way to transfer funds to IBKR SG account directly (from MY) using transferwise? Can't find any posts where members report such issue in the forum.
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You can transfer directly MYR to SGD. The only problem is transfer wise the account length somehow doesn't match their Citibank N.A. account. So I use Instarem which is fine

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post May 17 2020, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(EddieBrock @ May 16 2020, 10:38 AM)
Anybody tried shorting shares with TradeStation Global or IB?
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Yes. On IBKR you can just put in a "Sell" order for a share that you do not own. In your portfolio, it'll show the number of shares owned as a negative figure, and as the price drops, the your P&L figure increases, and vice versa.
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post May 19 2020, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(soundworks @ May 17 2020, 01:00 AM)
Hey, is there a Telegram group chat for IBKR Malaysian users? Should we create one if there isnt? smile.gif
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You can try joining here:
https://t.me/joinchat/M1jTbRMfPMmCiPPDcfGt6Q
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post May 19 2020, 09:24 PM

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https://fintechnews.my/23800/various/securi...te-in-malaysia/
I assume IBKR also isn't licensed right
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post May 19 2020, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(Krv23490 @ May 19 2020, 09:40 PM)
Don't think so, if i am not mistaken, that is why sometimes banks will be a little particular if you want to TT directly to them
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"Any person carrying out regulated activity in Malaysia without a licence or registration from/by the SC may, if convicted be liable to a fine not exceeding RM10 million or imprisonment not exceeding ten years or both."
This part sounds scary though
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post May 21 2020, 01:17 AM

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QUOTE(TOS @ May 20 2020, 09:50 PM)
moosset

Regarding the first page. The part on transfer of funds to IBKR through transferwise in SGD from Malaysia doesn't work anymore due to the 11-VAN restriction issue. (Transferwise only accepts 9/10-digit account number.)

You may want to update that.
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Ah. Good info. That's what I got stuck at as well, and ended up using Instarem, even though TW gave a better rate.
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post Jul 14 2020, 01:37 AM

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QUOTE(Chanching @ Jul 13 2020, 11:20 PM)
Thanks for the reference Singkalan🙏🏻
Wait so to clarify, no tax on capital gains at all or am I reading it wrong?
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No tax, unless you're trading as a profession and as your main source of income

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post Aug 5 2020, 03:38 AM

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QUOTE(KennethFoo24 @ Aug 1 2020, 11:20 AM)
Hi Fellow Gurus,

I am an absolute newbie in IBKR

I am a StashAway Investor, and adding IBKR into my portfolio to directly purchase some ETFs
Just want to get my numbers right.

Currently, StashAway has a 0.8%p.a charge , with 0.2% ETF expense ratio p.a. and a one-time 0.1% currrency conversion.
https://www.stashaway.my/pricing

Let's use RM5000 Buy and Hold for 5years as an example,

StashAway

RM5000 x (0.8% + 0.2% + 0.1%) = RM50/per annum + RM5 conversion fee

5 years (RM55 1st year + (RM 50 x 4years) ) = RM255 in fees
IBKR + TSG

The flow : MYR Bank > Instarem > SGD in IBKR > USD in IBKR > Purchase ETF in IBKR

Instarem transfer : RM 5000 > SGD : Fees Roughly RM25
SGD.USD Pair in IBKR : Exchange Fees USD2 ~ RM8.50
Buy ETF Fees : USD 1.5 ~ RM6.5

Total Fees : RM40

5 Years (RM 40 1st Year + (RM0 x4 year) ) = RM 40

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Above scenario has not considered withdrawals, but for simplicity sake, I would just take the same RM40 fees in IBKR example.

My other variable is :

Stashaway : Converts MYR to USD directly , den reverse when withdraw

IBKR : Convertys MYR to SGD + SGD to USD , den reverse when withdraw

Summary,

short of the conversion rate risks, IBKR is the clear winner in terms of fees. Or am i missing something ?
Feel free to copy paste the calculation and fix it accordingly.

I will still remain invested in StashAway, but also exploring other options.

Any input is welcome

Thanks guys  thumbup.gif
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Yeah you're comparing buying just ONE ETF, whereas SA has many ETFs. If you follow the exact same distribution of ETFs as SA costs would increase. And like someone else mentioned, this is for lump sum, if DCA cost would also increase.
For the record, I use both SA & IBKR

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post Aug 6 2020, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(sherynchans @ Aug 6 2020, 03:31 PM)
May I know the reason why we need to convert the currency according to each stock exchange?

Let's say I have USD, and I would like to trade on hkse. Can I just place the trade without converting??

Thank you..
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Say you have MYR. You cross the Causeway to Singapore. Can you buy chicken rice for SGD6 without converting your MYR?
Can't coz they are transacting in SGD only.

Your HKSE stocks can only be bought using HKD, so you need to convert it first.

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