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TSmoosset
post Sep 28 2019, 09:11 PM, updated 5y ago

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Interactive Brokers (IBKR)
Updated: 25th Aug 2020.

To use IBKR, you have 3 options:
1. via IBKR main website;
2. via TradeStation Global, TSG (not to be confused with TradeStation International);
3. via Captrader, please refer to another thread.

via IBKR
Just google Interactive Brokers and register there.
There's a monthly activity / inactivity fee of $10 per month, but can be waived if your net liquidation (cash + equities + bonds etc) is above $100k.
If you can meet the min requirement, this would be better as their fees (and margin rates) are lower than TSG.

Fees - https://www1.interactivebrokers.com/en/index.php?f=1590


via TSG
No monthly inactivity fee if balance is above $2500.
After registration, you'll have access to two platforms:
1. You may use the IBKR platform known as Traders Work Station (TWS) on both Windows and MacOS.
2. You may also use the platform developed independently by TSG, only available on Windows.

Note: In order to link TSG with IBKR, you SHOULD open your IBKR via TSG website. You'll be redirected to an IBKR website (could be HK, Australia etc).
If you opened an IBKR yourself without going through TSG website, you may not be able to link these entities.

Fees - https://www.tradestation-international.com/...ng-commissions/


Money transfer
These methods have worked in the past:
1. InstaRem: transfer HKD, SGD, GBP to IBKR (EUR - worked for some, rejected for some (25th Aug 2020));
2. CIMB: transfer money (via CIMB transfer or InstaRem or Transferwise) to CIMB SG, from CIMB SG to IBKR in SGD;
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3. Transferwise: transfer SGD, AUD, GBP, EUR, HKD, CAD to IBKR (for Canadian dollars, it takes longer than usual. Beware!);
4. Bank Islam (over the counter);
5. Maybank Internet banking, about $25 for fees;
6. BigPay (to deposit SGD) but can't enter your own reference number.

Not proven yet:
1. deposit USD via InstaRem, Transferwise.


Notes:
1. Your IBKR base currency doesn't matter. You can deposit in any currency!!!
No automatic currency conversion. All currency conversion must be done manually on the platform. You want to buy SG stocks? You convert your money to SGD. You want to buy HK stocks? You convert your money to HKD. NO AUTOMATIC CONVERSION!!

2. For live market data, subscription fees may be required.
3. Whether it's account opening or trading or money transfer, it's really not that difficult. Just click, click, click.... and you'll find your way. Nothing is finalised until you click the final button CONFIRM etc etc. So, don't worry!

For more info:

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4744515
https://betterspider.com/funding-your-accou...ractivebrokers/


Special thanks to:
1. Ramjade
2. dwRK
3. Yggdrasil
4. powerlinkers
5. erizdagreat
6. Lakeambience
7. TOS


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Updated 02 Jun 2020
For withdrawal, you can withdraw to your bank account in any developed country like Australia, UK, Singapore, HK etc.

Alternatively, you can also open an account with Transferwise and get a borderless account. It's possible to withdraw EUR from IBKR to TW Borderless account. I haven't tried other currencies yet but will keep this post updated as more info comes in from other users.

For more info: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=96979697



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more info, courtesy of polarzbearz

Step-by-step to getting started via TradeStation Global (Interactive Brokers)

This post has been edited by moosset: Jan 3 2021, 09:26 PM
TSmoosset
post Sep 29 2019, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(collingwood @ Sep 28 2019, 10:54 PM)
I am using IBKR.

https://www.interactivebrokers.com/en/index.php?f=45196

They just launched IBKR Lite to compete with Robinhood in the US.

Zero commission for US ETF - an incredibly good deal especially now they dont require minimums.
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any major differences between IBKR Lite and PRO, other than Lite only for US stocks and ETF?
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post Oct 1 2019, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(collingwood @ Sep 28 2019, 10:54 PM)
I am using IBKR.

https://www.interactivebrokers.com/en/index.php?f=45196

They just launched IBKR Lite to compete with Robinhood in the US.

Zero commission for US ETF - an incredibly good deal especially now they dont require minimums.
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are you using the Lite or Pro?
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post Oct 1 2019, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 1 2019, 06:43 PM)
Pro baru launch. Majority of us will be on full version of IB.
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how much is your monthly transaction fee? more than 10 USD??

if less than 10USD, they charge until 10 USD right? unless you've more than 100k USD with them.
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post Oct 1 2019, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 1 2019, 06:54 PM)
I use whitelabels of IB hence avoid paying the USD10/month charge. tongue.gif

Trade off is I pay higher commision than pure IB but the commision I paid is still at least 50% discount to what SG brokers will charged me + no pesky dividend tax/quarterly platform fee. I get full version of IB minus the pesky USD10/month fees.
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sorry, what does whitelabels of IB mean?
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post Oct 1 2019, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 1 2019, 10:11 PM)
Rebranded version of IB. Companies rent IB platform and market it as their own.

All info is found in the link I provided above. All you need to do is open and read it if you rajin. I did.
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I see, thanks. I'll have a look.

I thought about using the normal Pro version but not sure if I can reach 10usd per month in commission.
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post Oct 2 2019, 09:59 AM

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Ramjade

transferwise now allows transfer from MYR. Wouldn't it be cheaper to transfer straight from MYR to IBKR using transferwise, instead of MYR > CIMB MY > CIMB SG > IBKR? Although I'm not sure how to do it yet....
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post Oct 2 2019, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Oct 2 2019, 10:54 AM)
btw...charles schwab is also pressured to offer commission free for us stocks starting oct 7.

tdameritrade is also slashing to zero
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so which one is better?

IBKR Lite is not yet available right? Didn't see it yet.
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post Oct 2 2019, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Oct 2 2019, 11:59 AM)
Charting platform = TDA (withdrawal cost $25)
Lowest fees = IBKR and its introducing brokers (1st withdrawal per month free)
International market = IBKR

Also depends on what you trade and how you trade...shares, futures, options, forex, etc. Long term hold vs scalping...

Btw...can open demo account and try see whichever you like, and no one is stopping you from opening both.

I'm using TDA, I like it so much better, but your mileage may vary. Plan to open IBKR soon to dispose of some EU stocks.
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ah, thanks!

I've another European broker. Can I switch my stocks from one broker to another?
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post Oct 2 2019, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 2 2019, 12:36 PM)
Depends in you lo. If you want to keep your cost low, IBKR.
If your purpose is US stocks only maybe and you want pretty interface maybe TD Ameritrade.

For me I am a cost guy. So my option is bias towards IBKR. I choose IBKR for few reasons.
1. super cheap. You can't find another broker at this price set. Believed me I have looked
2. just works. Does what it needs me to do. Cheap does not mean low quality. I am satisfied with IB.
3. Access to spot rates for foreign currency conversion. Even with priority banking,  one can never get such good rates.
Yes can. Be prepared to fork out expensive transfer fees.
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QUOTE(dwRK @ Oct 2 2019, 01:02 PM)
Best check out transfer fees and trading fees for your shares... mine is free transfer so is worth it

TDA doesn't do EU stocks. Charles Schwab International costs just as much as my EU broker so no point.

So for EU stocks left only IBKR.

Ps...In addition to having a pretty interface, TDA has some charts and indicators that IBKR just doesn't have... so TDA is like BMW with full package vs IBKR's Perodua... both gets you A to B...but moot point lah if wanna dispose of EU stocks
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Thanks!
I'm currently leaning towards IBKR Lite since I want access to US stocks & ETF. I'm also not very good with charts and indicators, only know some simple technical trading indicators.

I'd also like to enter SG REITs market but maybe I don't need it, considering the additional cost.

My European broker doesn't allow US ETF trading, that's why I registered for IB. I hold some US stocks with them, so was thinking of transferring. Nah, maybe not lah... just too much trouble. I currently pay 0.25% brokerage with this broker.
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post Oct 2 2019, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Oct 2 2019, 09:07 PM)
Np. Just ask them to switch you to lite when available. Btw, I think you should be able to buy EU domiciled US ETF from your EU broker. The folks over at the diy s&p500 thread are buying Irish domiciled US ETF from German exchanges.

My broker charges minimum of 20 Euro + I think 0.25% above certain traded value. Lol
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wow!! This is too expensive!! shakehead.gif

mine is €1 or 0.25%, whichever is higher.
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post Oct 3 2019, 06:11 PM

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IBKR Lite is only available to US & India residents!!

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post Oct 4 2019, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Oct 4 2019, 08:42 AM)
Aiyah... but no big loss really if you trade EU stocks...

"For products not entitled to zero-commission trading under IBKR Lite, the same commission structure will apply to both IBKR Lite and IBKR Pro. Where applicable, a "Fixed" commission model will apply to IBKR Lite clients for such products."

Pro you can select much cheaper tier commissions...

Hope TDA don't play such a stunt and limit commission free trades to US only...

I guess you'll proceed to fund your Pro account? You realize the monthly min $10 commission/fee if total assets <$100k right?
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QUOTE(dwRK @ Oct 4 2019, 09:33 AM)
Yeah... just a prompt to him... he may have >$100k or trading fee >$10 so is non-issue & Pro is cheaper
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No, I don't plan to invest 100k USD even if I had that amount now. That's why would be nice if I could use IBKR lite.
Now have to look for whitelabels instead.

I'm not sure which country or region that I have more faith. EU/UK/US .... sad.gif
Everything is so uncertain now.

This post has been edited by moosset: Oct 4 2019, 12:49 PM
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post Oct 4 2019, 03:07 PM

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Ramjade I saw the option to link my IB acc with TradeStation global.

If I trade with TradeStation now, can I change to pure IB later?
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post Oct 4 2019, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 2 2019, 10:11 AM)
That's if IBKR accept third part transfer. So far I know they don't accept transferwise. They don't accept third part transfer for USD but they accept for EUR. It's a hit and miss. I rather not have my money stuck in limbo and take like 90 days to get it back. You are welcome to test and see if they accept 3rd party transfer.

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Oh ..... I totally forgot that it was Transferwise bank acc that will transfer money to IBKR, not me.

but then, now Transferwise has USD bank acc details for users, which mean, the bank acc is under my name.
So technically, it is me that transfer money from my Transferwise bank acc (under my name) to IBKR?? If so, then I don't need to transfer money to SG already.
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post Oct 4 2019, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 4 2019, 04:24 PM)

Wrong. Transferwise will transfer under their name. Not yours. Recipient side will see Transferwise name and not yours.
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ah, yes. You're right. The acc details with my name can only be used to receive USD, can't be used to send USD.


"Your bank details to receive USD

Use your bank details to receive USD from friends and businesses.
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post Oct 8 2019, 01:16 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 7 2019, 11:00 PM)
You are wrong again.
You can use transferwise to send USD.
Question is if receiver gside got issue with third party name. If no issue,  your transfer will go through.
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Yes, transferwise can of course send USD; but I'm talking about the Transferwise physical bank account details for transferwise user.
I've USD bank account details provided by Transferwise to receive USD, that account doesn't send out USD, I think. If it does, then it should be in my name.

The italic part is copied from the transferwise website.
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post Oct 9 2019, 02:25 AM

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Ramjade

While waiting for my tradestation account to be approved, I've a question.
The min trade for TradeStation is USD5, while IBKR charges USD10.
So, if I trade twice a month, then IBKR is actually ok?

Now I think about it, M'sian brokers are also not cheap.
if buy RM 10k stocks, RM 10 clearing + RM10 brokerage + 0.03% + VAT, also about USD5.
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post Oct 19 2019, 11:01 AM

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Finally got my TradeStation Global acc approved.

It seems I could transfer USD from IB to Transferwise (USD bank acc), but I'm not sure how to transfer MYR to IB. I'm trying now to see if it works.
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QUOTE(fauxylar @ Oct 25 2019, 09:24 AM)
Any updates on this? Looking to make my first deposit and want to know if there’s a better way than bank wire transfer
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If you're using pure IBKR (US) and not via another party, then I think it's possible. There are some info on another forum.

But I'm using a whitelabel and that IBKR is UK based, so it doesn't seem possible. I've contacted both Transferwise and IBKR regarding this:

From transferwise,
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Thank you for the email and apologies for the late reply!

Unfortunately, we cannot send funds there as it is a FFC payment meant for a wire. We can only send domestic ACH payments to accounts located IN the US. Additionally, Interactive Brokers doesn't receive ACH payments from 3rd parties.

Should you have any other questions, please feel free to reach out to us! We are always happy to assist you!


From IBKR,
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While it is possible to deposit funds from Transferwise, the transfer would need to meet the following conditions:

The funds would need to originate from an account tiled the same as the IBKR account;
The deposit payment details would need to include your account ID and title.
Based upon prior experience, Transferwise generally does not include the required information in the payment details and, if this is the case, the funds will be returned as unidentified.

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