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andrewlimkn
post Feb 17 2020, 05:52 PM

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I have been using Maybank for my USD trades. True that the brokerage is a bit high. Recently i found out that i can use Transferwise to transfer USD to their local USD account to cut a bit on the foreign exchange conversion.

IMHO the fact is the brokerage fees is really negligible if you take into account the price movements of the stock from one minute to the next... but then every cent saved is still money right..

I am trying to explore using IB/ Tradestation Global now. After what i read in this thread, basically we can't use Transferwise/other fintech services to transfer direct USD to IB right? It seems like a lot of trouble to do the multi currency conversion process (to SGD or other currency). And you have to use the same process for withdrawals right?

My questions to those who have been using IB

1) Are you allowed to make a trade before funds are in? (up to certain amount based on your existing assets). Local broker usually allows that but it usually has to settled within next day T + 1 (used to be T + 2)

2) How long the funds transfer process usually take (based on your low fee multi currency approach) to go into the IB account?

Reason is have you ever consider idle cash sitting in IB's account while you wait to make a trade? These funds have
an opportunity cost e.g. interest bearing when placed in your loan flexi account.

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post Feb 17 2020, 07:34 PM

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QUOTE(moosset @ Feb 17 2020, 07:02 PM)
just curious, if you buy $1000 ~ $2000 worth of shares using your maybank platform, how much do you pay for brokerage fees?
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It's min of USD25 or 0.4%. So you have to trade at least usd6250 for 0.4% otherwise the effective rate is higher
andrewlimkn
post Feb 17 2020, 07:36 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 17 2020, 07:15 PM)
What trouble?
Send money to SG using click of mouse button. Money appear like 30-2h later. Rate is as good as money changer.
Form there do a IBFT like transfer into IB. Money appears like in 10-20minutrs if office hours. Then convert SGD at spot rate (real freaking exchange rate) at USD2/exchange.
My overseas commission is basically USD1.xx-2.xx/transaction.
My money is one way ticket.he doesn't get converted to RM. It stays as foreign currency. 

Can if you are using margin. Otherwise topup first then only can buy.

Of course I have thought about it. Hence eI only transferred money into IB when there are things to buy. Otherwise keep in high yield account in SG or MMF. Of course SG account give like 1.xx% interest. Can't compare with Malaysian interest. But you can't compare depreciation of RM vs SGD too.
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Ok thanks for the insight. Have you transferred any stocks to IB before from a local Malaysian broker? What are the charges if any?

I should also think of disposing them through IB now

andrewlimkn
post Feb 17 2020, 07:47 PM

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QUOTE(moosset @ Feb 13 2020, 09:01 AM)
a) I think it works too. It's just easier for us to open CIMB(SG) than MBB(SG). You can also use instrarem (MY) > IBKR(SGD) without a Singaporean acc.

b) IBKR can't receive USD from Transferwise. I tried before but failed. If you managed to do it, please report back.
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So to confirm can transfer SGD directly to IB (SGD) using instrarem without a need to open a SG acc?
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post Feb 17 2020, 07:47 PM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Feb 17 2020, 07:46 PM)
Malaysian stocks cannot
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I am referring to US stocks
andrewlimkn
post Feb 17 2020, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(moosset @ Feb 13 2020, 01:15 PM)
Personally tested and it worked!
Transferwise EUR
InstaRem EUR, SGD, HKD.

Personally tested but it failed!
Transferwise USD
InstaRem USD
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Have you tested whether MYR to SGD or HKD give better rates, before you convert it back to USD in IB? Since HKD is pegged to USD..
andrewlimkn
post Feb 17 2020, 11:15 PM

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I tried to sign up for Instarem but got stuck at the picture verification page coz it couldn't work on my mobile phone! (iphone)... doesnt give much confidence to trust your money with them..

What about Transferwise SGD to IB?

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post Feb 18 2020, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 18 2020, 12:16 AM)
What the hell? Stuck because of using iPhone and refuse to trust it?
Come on. There's a reason most transaction should be done on a computer.
If you like paying more to banks be my guest.
All this time instarem have serve me very well.
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Chill man. I was using computer but it asks for photo verification without upload so have to use camera. So i tried on my mobile but couldn't work. Just surprised that they haven't tested this properly yet. Finally it worked when i used my laptop

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post Feb 21 2020, 02:29 PM

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I tried using Instarem to wire SGD directly to IB... it works. Realised i need to enable the currency conversion permission to convert i supposed

And also, how do I check whether this is indeed the Tradestation Global account?

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post Feb 22 2020, 02:19 PM

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I received the email from Tradestation Global which provide another set of username and password. Now it is confusing

What's the difference between using the IBKR and Tradestation Platform to trade? Are we charged different fees if we trade on one or the other platform or it is interchangeable?

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post Feb 22 2020, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(roarus @ Feb 22 2020, 02:26 PM)
It's just an extra platform with graphing tools, if you're not active trader you can ignore it and just use IBKR TWS/WebTrader/Mobile directly. Fees will follow TradeStation Global's fee table - same, doesn't matter if you execute using via TSG or IBKR directly.
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post Feb 24 2020, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(joeblow @ Feb 24 2020, 09:45 PM)
Hmm,

I have been a IB user for years... Using their TWS to trade. Trust me IB has one of the most advance platforms out there, but not very user friendly. Eg the idealpro vs fxconc, till now I still don't know which one I used and how I did the  forex change.

Glad to find this thread going and I will be trying to contribute as much as possible.

I see most of the questions already answered by friendly bros in this thread. Only one point I want to make. Touchwood. This applies to all foreign companies platform actually. One bad thing about trading using online non-malaysia company platform is that (again touchwood) if something happens to you, it will be very difficult to claim the money.

Even if you manage to claim the money, do note you will be subjected to US Inheritance tax (they call it Estate Tax) even if you are a Malaysian (I checked this few years ago, not sure if still valid). Which is why even though you are a Malaysian and do not need to pay US tax, your stocks dividend will still be subjected 30% withholding tax.

Now I do not know if local stock brokers have this Inheritance tax or not since I do not have any now. So it would be good to check. For me I think I am going to start slowly moving the money back to Malaysia or Singapore. My friend who is a US citizen and has US bank account, he doesn't keep the money in online brokerage. He always transfer the money back.... because it is more secure. Anyway I am going off topic.

So for those who opens IB or any other online overseas platform, do take note:

1. In the event something happens to you and how to claim the money back
2. When you transfer the money back after making profits, if amount is big you might have issue with Bank Negara. Of course if less than 6 figures I doubt they care.

Cheers.
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Speaking of which, I noticed this statement in IBKR website below. It seems that you may get taxed if you sell your stocks for gains < 12 months, eventhough no capital gains tax in Malaysia

US tax law requires the withholding of tax for non-US persons (non-resident aliens) at a rate of 30% on payments of US source stock dividends, short-term capital gain distributions and substitute payments in lieu.
andrewlimkn
post Feb 27 2020, 12:23 AM

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Does anyone know whether the min commission applies per order or can combine multiple orders for same stock per day?
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post Mar 4 2020, 11:17 PM

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If anyone has successfully transferred their US stocks held with our Malaysian broker to IBKR, pls PM me.

The procedure for Maybank seems to use a third party clearing house (Apex) with their AC name, but i couldn't change the AC name there other than my own name (under FOP US). Still trying to find out from my broker but they are quite blur

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post Mar 22 2020, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Mar 21 2020, 11:25 AM)
You cannot withdraw out USD to transferwise. They already mentioned somewhere in their terms and conditions they don't support transfer or incoming transfer from transferwise.

Just go open. Not that hard.
That's normal. One of the cheapest ways to bring back money from SG is using Cimb SG. There is another fintech. I haven't test yet which is cheaper than Cimb.
You cannot withdraw USD to transferwise.
They already mentioned. Seriously no one read the terms and conditions?

Of course there are charges. Transferwise needs to survive. Is not a charity body. Again it's clearly mentioned in their fees, there's a charge for moving money out of borderless account. All clear cut and written.
https://transferwise.com/help/17/borderless...account-pricing

The charges is nothing compare to amount you need to spend to travel to US to open bank account. I use that account for receiving USD from my US cashback shopping.
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Isn't the Transferwise USD borderless account in your own name? So in that case, USD withdrawal directly from IBKR does not work? (not talking about deposits here)


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post Mar 25 2020, 10:50 PM

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Those that are under TS Global, how much commission have they been charging you for US stock trades? I think i always got charged USD1 (rather than the min $1.5 stated in their website)

 

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