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DJFoo000
post Sep 23 2020, 04:13 PM

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To add to the wealth of info already in this thread, my experience opening an IBKR account via TSG:

1) Completed account registration IBKR via TradeStation Global (11.50am 21/9 Monday)
2) Sent SGD 326.68 (MYR 1000) to IBKR via TransferWise (1.30pm)
3) IBKR account created (can login) but no trading data yet. (6.00pm 22/9 Tuesday)
4) Received email from TSG that account has been created and ready for funding. Transaction history still show money not received yet. (5am 23/9 Wednesday)
5) Account able to be logged in with trading data. Money not received yet (2pm)
6) Initiated transfer of SGD 1400 to IBKR from CIMB SG via FAST (2.11pm)
7) SGD 1400 received at IBKR. Prompted to register Trusted Contact Person upon first check of transaction. SGD 326.68 via TW still not available. (3pm)

I opened CIMB MY and SG account in parallel on Monday as well. All in all, done in a bit over 2 days. This process is documented in my comment at the SG account thread.

Would not recommend TransferWise for initial funding direct into IBKR, even if non-USD. The early transfer of SGD into IBKR via TW instead of waiting for CIMB SG to be set up did not provide any time savings. Looks like I'm gonna need to engage TSG CS on that.

EDIT:

8) SGD 326.68 via TW was finally credited in, without my intervention. Guess needed the CIMB SG transfer to be the gate opener only TW can masuk. (10pm)

EDIT2:

CIMB SG funds at step 6) were funded via TW from my other Malaysian bank account.

This post has been edited by DJFoo000: Sep 24 2020, 12:07 PM
DJFoo000
post Sep 24 2020, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(LostAndFound @ Sep 24 2020, 10:06 AM)
So for your step 6, CIMB SG you used transferwise to get the money there or you used CIMB's own internal transfer (and their exchange rate)?
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Oh I missed out that step. Does look like that SGD 1400 appeared out of thin air lol.

I used TransferWise to transfer the SGD 1400 to CIMB SG from my other Malaysian bank account.

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post Sep 24 2020, 06:56 PM

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Guys, this is a noob question, but are commissions different for market buys vs limit buys on TSG? Below screenshots are referred:

https://i.imgur.com/KIDw9Vt.png
Market buy SAWD 100 units. Total estimated cost: 611.

https://i.imgur.com/0XLgzNw.png
Limit buy SAWD 100 units @ 5.88. Total estimated cost: 589.91

Does market buy in TSG/IBKR not buy based on the lowest selling price?
DJFoo000
post Sep 25 2020, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Sep 24 2020, 08:23 PM)
market order buy 100 units...

if got 1000 units for sale at 5.88... you get 100 * 5.88
if got 10 units for sale at 5.88, next is 1000 units at 6.5... you get 10 * 5.88 + 90 * 6.5...

you need to understand orderbook/depth of market or DOM, and market order, and liquidity...

low liquidity stocks you can easily over pay with market order just because timing...

your example is system giving you an estimate because market not yet open
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Noted. Just a bit caught offguard because even Maybank Trade got display the buy-sell wall or depth of market. Lacking that info confused me a bit. Just found out it's L2 data which needs additional subscription on IBKR.
DJFoo000
post Jan 24 2023, 12:46 AM

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Just received request for proof of source of wealth, again. Does IBKR do this every year for all clients?
DJFoo000
post Mar 15 2023, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(polarzbearz @ Mar 14 2023, 11:22 PM)
The new IBKR-Wise Integration is really nice, simplifying many of the steps to perform the funding via this integration.
Bear in mind though the fees paid to Wise via IBKR-Wise Balance Transfer seem to be slightly higher compared to the typical ACH Direct Deposits.

I suspect the differences are coming from the 5.5% commission that IBKR takes from Wise on the fees collected (not on the capital) for every successful transfer - exchange rate seems to be the same during my testing with two sets of RM4000 (done within millisecond difference in terms of transfer timing)

The differing amount is neglectable with approx. ~30 cents USD in extra fees.
(for those interested in screenshots etc, I've just updated my blog with the details Wise Multi-Currency Account & Card for Malaysians)
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Referring to the new update on Wise integration with IBKR, will you also test the withdrawal route? I believe CIMB SG will still be useful for the superior SGDMYR exchange rate.
DJFoo000
post Mar 28 2023, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(siaush @ Mar 28 2023, 01:10 PM)
Anyone tried transferring USD from Wise USD Amount to IBKR using the new linked Wise account feature?

I noticed that although the fees shown in IBKR when initiating the transfer is 0.39 USD, the fees shown in the Wise portal is 6.44 USD instead.
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Not sure if this is a bug, or it will indeed cost more to transfer this way.
I did not proceed with the transaction and cancelled it when it prompted for password.

Hope someone who did complete the transfer this way will be able to shed some light on the fees.
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I believe your last screenshot is the 3 distinct options to complete the transfer. Choosing the first option should be possible if you have that amount in your Wise USD balance.

DJFoo000
post Apr 15 2023, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Apr 14 2023, 08:51 AM)
Oddly, took a day for me cause using cheapest transfer. tongue.gif No difference.

Also oddly, suddenly the ibkr compliance team asked for details after I used the wise ibkr integration.

Gave the info they need but have not revert back to me yet.

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yer so sien one got official integration already still harass ppl about it?
DJFoo000
post May 1 2023, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(swiss228 @ Apr 30 2023, 10:43 AM)
Hi. I recently received an email from IBKR Client Services mentioning that I can view a annual Aggregated Cost and Charges statement. Just click on Performance & Reports>Statements>Aggregated Cost and Charges.
But I can't see this statement on my portal. Anyone here have the same problem as me?
IBKR said they are required to provide this statement at least annually.
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Did you click the "run" button with arrow icon along the same row as "Aggregated Cost and Charges" in the Statements page? After clicking that button, a pop-up should appear with a list of your costs statement.
DJFoo000
post May 10 2023, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(TOS @ May 9 2023, 07:00 PM)
IBKR is now trying to act like a market maker...

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Isn't this like payment for order flow (PFOF), without the payment?
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post Jun 11 2023, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Jun 8 2023, 11:02 PM)
Not exactly first day or last day. I tend to sell one to two days before ex-date for BIL and buy on the ex-date or one day after it. You may refer to BIL ETF's distribution schedule here: https://www.ssga.com/library-content/produc...on_Schedule.pdf

and mark down the dates on your calendar (take note ex-date for December is unusual as it's in the middle of the month, plus no distributions/ex-date(s) in January).

I notice there are some nuances in buying/selling BIL ETF. Usually there is an uptick in the ETF price (i.e., premium over NAV) TWO days before ex-date rather than ONE day before ex-date. (Tail risk management?) And in occasions like US debt ceiling crisis, "smart money" usually trade even earlier. In any case, I look at my IRR, if the number moves up by several more basis points than the usually daily movements and it's very close to ex-date then I will follow "smart money". tongue.gif

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Actually, if you think through, there's "economies of scale" in choosing to buy+sell around ex-date vs hold and let Uncle Sam tax 30% out of the distributions.

The reason is simple: WHT is 30% of distributions, which is dependent on how many units of BIL ETF you hold. However, brokerage fees for buy+sell is (almost) fixed at 0.35-0.45 USD per trade regardless of how many BIL units you hold (assuming you don't trade often with other counters).

I did some dirty calculations last year. You can have fun playing with this Excel file. I used previous distributions and compare the opportunity costs of either holding (no trade on ex-date) vs trading on ex-date.

For several thousand USDs the savings are probably to the tune of few cents, but for those with thousands of BIL units, the savings start to run into 1 to 2 order of magnitudes in USD. Also, one should take into consideration of time value of money. The distributions of BIL are paid not on ex-date but about 5 days later whereas buy+sell means money gets "reinvested" within 1-3 days. Minuscule savings I know...

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In another news, ASNB/PNB has sent me the full list of investment for ASM1. See if you can find any counters that interest you here: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=107438507
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It might be worth it to verify if your received dividends from BIL has WHT witheld, because AFAIK WHT is not applicable to fixed income assets. https://www.bankeronwheels.com/how-to-reduc...ithholding-tax/

DJFoo000
post Jun 11 2023, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(Gwynbleidd @ Jun 11 2023, 04:34 PM)
I think it will get deducted and refunded later. My US Treasuries Dividend got deducted (30% WHT) and I got it back later.
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Was it refunded automatically? Or did you have to make an application thru IBKR to claim it back?
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post Jun 11 2023, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(Hoshiyuu @ Jun 11 2023, 08:38 PM)
Sorry, can you elaborate further? The link you have provided doesn't seem to cover this particular case (Foreign investor receiving dividends from a US domiciled ETF that holds government bonds)
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The part that says "There are no Withholding Taxes on US Bonds, so Bond ETFs are less problematic."

StashAway has a similar statement on bond ETFs: https://www.stashaway.sg/help-center/115010...dends-get-taxed

"Under the QII (Qualified Interest Income) rule, some of the dividend WHT from US domiciled funds (e.g. US government bonds) can be claimed back. Our broker will do this on your behalf and there is no involvement on the customer's part. We will do this once a year, and will notify you via email if you have any claimable WHT, which would be redistributed to your portfolio and automatically reinvested."


QUOTE(xander2k8 @ Jun 11 2023, 09:01 PM)
It is applicable to taxable once it is traded on the exchange 🤦‍♀️ only fixed income which are treasuries paper are not taxable like UST bills
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In the accompanying Blackrock QII report in the above StashAway link, the statement reads "The distributions that have been identified by the iShares and BlackRock Funds as exempt from U.S. withholding tax are disclosed in the table below."

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post Jun 28 2023, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Jun 28 2023, 03:14 PM)
Now that Wise can be linked to IBKR, the money transfer is immediate right? It shows up in your IB account on the same day?
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My most recent one, initiate transfer at 9.15pm, available for trading on IBKR at 3.30am.
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post Jul 16 2023, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Jul 16 2023, 08:55 PM)
I assume you mean LHDN/IRB's income tax return filing.

In this case, unless you BRING BACK the dividends and interests of your stocks/bonds/foreign FDs etc., otherwise you do not need to declare anything (even for the non-taxable part).

If you opt to bring back/remit back the dividends in to your local bank accounts, then starting from this year, you need to declare the dividends/interests received in part K of your BE form.

YA 2022 BE-form link: https://www.hasil.gov.my/media/gf1dooov/form_be2022_2.pdf

YA 2022 BE-form explanatory notes: https://www.hasil.gov.my/media/jici2heu/exp...es_be2022_2.pdf

In any case, it's only "current income" portion of your total investment returns that matter (e.g. dividends, interests, bond coupons etc.), the "capital gain" (stock/bond price appreciation) part is non-taxable and need not be declared, even if brought back to Malaysia.
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>dividends portion

What if the money has been mixed around, e.g. I buy VT, VT give dividend, I reinvest dividend into VT, then sell everything.

Also, does this 'headache' favours holding accumulating-style ETFs rather than distributing ones, since the dividends have been internalised?
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post Nov 14 2023, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(jinj @ Nov 14 2023, 08:53 PM)
hello everyone, newbie here.

I have an IBKR account. I usually deposit USD using Wise after i convert them from myr.

My question is, let's say i wan to trade sg stocks, can i deposit sgd into IBKR and trade using sgd?

Or do I need to deposit USD as usual, and upon trading sg stocks, IB will auto convert USD to sgd?

thankssss
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The fund deposit page has a list of currencies you can deposit, with the corresponding method to deposit said currency.

Trading can only be done if you have the appropriate currency to purchase that particular stock, e.g. have SGD in account to buy SGX stocks.

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post Dec 30 2023, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(AgoNi @ Dec 26 2023, 03:30 PM)
Hey guys just want to ask how you guys buy shares if IBKR does not provide real-time data in the stock market?
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Use IBKR Snapshots. USD 0.01 per snapshot, up to USD 1 waived per month. Previous post about this:

QUOTE(dkzk86 @ Apr 3 2020, 02:56 PM)
You can make use of the snapshots. IBKR gives free USD1 worth of snapshots each month. That's about 100 free snapshots for equities.

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I'm not too sure on which subscription is applicable for Equities only but my guess is it's the same as mine.

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https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=96160148

For US market, I use Webull to check prices (free L1 data), then make my market order accordingly. For other markets, I just hentam. Maybe should've used Snapshots lol.
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post Mar 17 2024, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(FinalHistory @ Mar 16 2024, 05:42 PM)
Hi all, I am new to investing, if I want to dca cspx through ibkr monthly RM 500. Is it a right strategy?

Will I ended up paying too much on the platform and brokerage fees etc? Thank you
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For your amount, going with a local roboadvisor like Stashaway will be cheaper for you in the short term. Going by @Medufsaid's calculation, 1.6% can cover 5 years of SA management fees. Once you accumulate a sizeable amount then you can consider to withdraw from Stashaway and re-buy on IBKR to avoid the management fees of SA. You will have to be the judge yourself whether the effort is worth it.

 

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