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post Nov 14 2022, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(xerxesbear_1 @ Nov 14 2022, 11:02 PM)
I found out that my account is carried by IBKR UK Limited, not the IBKR LLC which is regulated by SEC and SPIC. Should I be worried? should I ask them to change to IBKR LLC instead? is there an advantage between IBKR LLC vs IBKR UK limited?

seems like IBKR LLC offers more protection.

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FSCS only covers up to GBP 85k compared to SIPC's USD 500k (cash up to 250k only). If your account is only holding GBP assets up to GBP 85k, may be it is still ok.
If you are holding mainly USD assets, better go for a SIPC member.

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post Nov 17 2022, 06:58 PM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Nov 17 2022, 04:38 PM)
Just to inform you guys to be careful when sending USD from IBKR to DBS USD FD accounts. Make sure the amount sent is above 5000 SGD all the time.

I encountered a painful experience of losing 1% of the money due to rejection of FD deposits by DBS as my 3.6k USD is less than 5k SGD last Thursday after the weaker US inflation figures...

Lesson is: Always leave yourself some room for currency fluctuations when you deposit USD in DBS FD accounts.

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Is there a min for transfer to DBS? You can send to My Account first, then only deposit into FD. There is a SGD10 inward fee though.
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post Nov 17 2022, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Nov 17 2022, 07:18 PM)
The minimum amount for USD deposits at DBS is 5k SGD or equivalent. (For UOB, it would be 5k of the deposit currency, i.e. 5k USD)
I was planning to follow this tip (first post of that page): https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/threads/....6764389/page-4
So, no need to pay 10 SGD if you directly transfer into USD FD account. But your money will be stuck there for 1 month before you can transfer to My Account. You will earn 1 month USD interest in the mean time.

Reference: https://www.dbs.com.sg/personal/support/ban...nd-charges.html
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But the FD account only show SGD as default currency. I was worried that it automatically convert from USD to SGD after transfer. Can't find any explanation from DBS website about direct transfer to FD account guideline.

As for transfer from DBS to IBKR, how do you enter your account number? I found there is no field to key in the note "For further credit to account xxxxx". Only one account number which is IBKR account at corresponding bank can be entered.

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post Nov 17 2022, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Nov 17 2022, 11:03 PM)
For those of you seeking short-term (1-3 month) ultraliquid USD parking facility in IB, I found several US 1-3 month Treasury bill ETFs like BIL and SGOV.

Assume you adjust SMART routing to VLow (High volume exchange with lowest fee), you can get your trades executed with as low as 0.24 USD instead of the usual "0.35 USD". BIL is liquid but expense ratio is high at 0.14% p.a., SGOV's expense ratio is low but that is due to temporary fee rebate by BLK which would terminate on 30th June 2023 (after which it would be around 0.14-0.15% p.a., on par with BIL). Moreover, SGOV has about 6% asset exposure in its own institutional cash fund which has Treasury floating rate notes and introduces additional counterparty risks with banks like Citi, Credit Agricole etc. So, not truely "risk-free".

I did some IRR calculations and found that you can get returns of about 1.3% p.a. for the 2-month holding period, factoring 30% WHT for the monthly distributions and 0.24-0.35 USD commissions, charged twice (once during purchase, once during sell).

Much lower than contemporary 2-month UST yield, but better than holding everything on cash balance and let IB suck all your interests away I guess. After all, in terms of opportunity costs, there is nothing more "risk-free" than risk-free rates. So, in theory, as long as better than 0% p.a., one should bite. tongue.gif
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DBS 1mth FD gives 3.42%, 3mth 4.28%. If you have >10k, IBKR giving 3.33%. Wouldn't this better than buying ETFs that gives 1.3% but may subject to various risks?

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post Nov 18 2022, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Nov 17 2022, 11:55 PM)
No. Cause FD you are getting fixed 3.xx%. Etf over time will give you 8-9%p.a
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We are discussing ultra short fixed income investment, not equity. I doubt there is any treasury ETF that could give 8-9%p.a.

Btw, how did you manage to use DBS remit to transfer to IBKR? Did you enter your account number?
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post Dec 2 2022, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Dec 2 2022, 08:50 PM)
Sent more than 5k SGD but still rejected... Looks like DBS don't accept transfers to FD account directly. So, park USD in BIL remains the most viable options for now.
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Transfer to MyAccount. Save you the hassle.
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post Dec 2 2022, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Dec 2 2022, 09:25 PM)
10 USD charges...
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Should be SGD 10.
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post Dec 2 2022, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Dec 2 2022, 09:36 PM)
Ya, 10 SGD. But my money is in, 10 USD deducted by JP Morgan the correspondent bank....

(check my earlier post, before yours).
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IBKR has free transfer once a month.. try to use it wisely..
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post Dec 9 2022, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Dec 9 2022, 09:04 AM)
If they charge me 1 plate of Char Kuey Teow that is ok. Now 10 USD is like 10 plates of Char Kuey Teow... laugh.gif 

Even if I can't get back 10 USD, I think clarifying correspondent bank charges are important as it's usually opaque (Most online info claim charges between 10-30 USD.)

Since not much opportunity cost is incurred for asking for charges info, not a lot of efforts are needed. Still doable for me. smile.gif
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Most likely DBS USD account is using JPM. So the associated transfer fee is passed to the end customer.

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post Jan 12 2023, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Jan 12 2023, 11:49 AM)
I have done some cleanup to the charts (senior debt), should be more readable now.

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You can assume Public Bank's CDS curve is somewhere between Maybank and MY government. UOB and OCBC's curves are about the same place as that of DBS and definitely higher than SG government's.
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From you chart, better put money in DBS than in Any Malaysia bank.
How about IBKR's CDS? How high will it be?
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post Mar 16 2023, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Mar 16 2023, 04:40 PM)
Eh, IBKR -> DBS Multiplier USD Account 7 USD inward TT charge.

https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/threads/...#post-146716107

Why not 10?...
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For DBS, it is actually 10 SGD fee for inward TT. 10 SGD is around 7 USD.
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post Mar 22 2023, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(leo2010 @ Mar 21 2023, 08:40 PM)
The spread for RHB MCA is narrower than wise. This could be viable route to convert MYR to other currency and convert back to MYR. Taking USD for instance, around 0.5% for MYR to USD and 0.25% for vice versa. Much better than wise.
And I assume there is no upper limit (30k) like in wise?
And I like the interest bearing feature. Seems like an account for many scenarios.
The outward fees is USD10, more expensive than TT from their CASA RM20 cable fee. Need to check total cost with exchange rate to compare whether from MCA or CASA is better.
ATM fees oversea is RM12.

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post Jul 8 2023, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(Hoshiyuu @ Jul 2 2023, 10:26 PM)
Thanks for the research and information sharing as always TOS!

I don't use TWS at all so I have not tinkered with the routing at all, but it sure is interesting as hell to see my trade being routed to all these exotic places hahaha.

Still, I am really curious how is my fees derived. According to their fee charts, it feels like every trade scenario involving an EU stock should incur no less than one USD normally. But to be charged only 0.35 cents... I assume this is their fee's price floor for every transaction then.

Still really happy with the potential savings though. All the more reason to complete my trade during end of high liquidity days. Opens up to cheaper, more frequent cost averaging intervals too.
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Just curious about the USFR dividend that distributed monthly, did you see US 30% WHT when you received it every month?
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post Jul 8 2023, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(Hoshiyuu @ Jul 8 2023, 12:46 PM)
That's what I am trying to find out, ahahaha, I just started holding it at the start of the month. According to IBKR's CS, they have a partner that claw back WHT for them once a year if applicable, but they won't clarify if USFR is WHT-free.

Supposedly US treasuries ETF can mark their dividends to be qualified interest income with has no withholding tax levied, SGOV does so and IBKR partners will charge first refund later. Not sure if USFR enjoys this. Likely, though. Some other forumers were selling them right before ex-date to prevent WHT, but I want to try holding for one full year and see if I get the refund.

Conversation here: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...#entry107454145

Additional reading: (look for dividend and interest income)
https://www.irs.gov/forms-pubs/about-publication-519
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Just found this from the website:-
www.expatriationattorneys.com/non-resident-investment-us-bond-interest-and-funds/#:~:text=Bond%20Interest%20vs%20Bond%20Fund%20Dividend,-Bond%20Interest%20and&text=Since%20the%20bond%20income%20is,alien%20owner%20of%20the%20bond.

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According to this site, bond is excluded from WHT but bond fund is not.
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post Sep 29 2023, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Sep 28 2023, 10:53 PM)
Woah this I don't know. Upon further reading looks like no withholding is necessary in the first place.

https://www.ssga.com/library-content/produc...us-en-ssiit.pdf

Not sure if they apply the withholding due to ease of administration. You think can complain?
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https://www.ssga.com/library-content/produc...eation-2023.pdf

According to above link's table, BIL is 99.67% tax exempted in Jul dividend distribution. If your deduction by IBKR during Jul match the expected %. Looking at its trend, it should progress to 100% tax exemption soon. That is the good news. If I understand what the document says correctly.....I am not so sure.

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post Nov 16 2023, 08:20 PM

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QUOTE(Mattrock @ Nov 16 2023, 07:30 PM)
During the recent TD Ameritrade SG shutdown, I managed to get my account transferred to TD Ameritrade USA. However, I learnt that they do not allow foreign account holders to name any beneficiaries.

Upon checking with my Will executor, they said the repatriation of any assets from the US normally is quite troublesome and may take years and lot of costs involved. So now I am mulling closing out that account, bring back funds to Malaysia in USD and then open an IBKR SG account.
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Whether it is a US or SG stock broker, pls note that any US assets amount above USD60k is subject to US estate tax. The US estate tax applies even your account is outside US.

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