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post Sep 26 2019, 05:17 PM, updated 7y ago

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My lights getting really dim. Often I can't even tell if the lights are on if there's a lot of traffic around. Looking to replace my Proton Saga stock bulbs (most likely Bosch) with cool white ones instead of the usual yellow. Any brands to recommend? Are those from MrDIY ok to use?
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post Sep 26 2019, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(jerm57 @ Sep 26 2019, 05:17 PM)
My lights getting really dim. Often I can't even tell if the lights are on if there's a lot of traffic around. Looking to replace my Proton Saga stock bulbs (most likely Bosch) with cool white ones instead of the usual yellow. Any brands to recommend? Are those from MrDIY ok to use?
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osram nightbreaker or phillips
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post Sep 26 2019, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(jerm57 @ Sep 26 2019, 05:17 PM)
My lights getting really dim. Often I can't even tell if the lights are on if there's a lot of traffic around. Looking to replace my Proton Saga stock bulbs (most likely Bosch) with cool white ones instead of the usual yellow. Any brands to recommend? Are those from MrDIY ok to use?
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how old is your car?
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post Sep 26 2019, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(^pomen_GTR^ @ Sep 26 2019, 05:19 PM)
osram nightbreaker or phillips
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yup, if want to buy buy the good ones, dont buy the white bulb as it is very dim
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post Sep 26 2019, 05:31 PM

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Which saga?🤔
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post Sep 26 2019, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(^pomen_GTR^ @ Sep 26 2019, 05:19 PM)
osram nightbreaker or phillips
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Using nightbreaker as well, so far so good

Definitely brighter and slightly "whiter" than ordinary bulbs

Avoid DIY bulbs, they are so cheap for a reason (basically knockoff of osram / Philips)
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post Sep 26 2019, 05:52 PM

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2010 Saga FL. The bulbs was last changed a little over 5 years ago. Also, which one to get? Got so many. H1, H3, H4, H7. What's the difference?

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post Sep 26 2019, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(jerm57 @ Sep 26 2019, 05:17 PM)
My lights getting really dim. Often I can't even tell if the lights are on if there's a lot of traffic around. Looking to replace my Proton Saga stock bulbs (most likely Bosch) with cool white ones instead of the usual yellow. Any brands to recommend? Are those from MrDIY ok to use?
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I'm suspecting that you're experiencing something more than just a bulb that is due for replacement, like blurred headlamps or bad wiring.

Maybe you can post some pictures here with the lights on.
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post Sep 26 2019, 06:27 PM

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QUOTE(Deja Vu @ Sep 26 2019, 06:04 PM)
I'm suspecting that you're experiencing something more than just a bulb that is due for replacement, like blurred headlamps or bad wiring.

Maybe you can post some pictures here with the lights on.
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Probably not so serious lah. My headlamps have a sticker coat that is still very clear but a got a bit hairline cracks. As for the light, it's consistent and doesn't change when driving. Obviously, when it's dark can see the light. But when park under a street lamp, then my light get drowned out.
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post Sep 26 2019, 07:07 PM

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QUOTE(Max @ Sep 26 2019, 05:31 PM)
Which saga?🤔
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I guess few generations back saga. Probably flx
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post Sep 26 2019, 07:11 PM

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QUOTE(jerm57 @ Sep 26 2019, 05:17 PM)
My lights getting really dim. Often I can't even tell if the lights are on if there's a lot of traffic around. Looking to replace my Proton Saga stock bulbs (most likely Bosch) with cool white ones instead of the usual yellow. Any brands to recommend? Are those from MrDIY ok to use?
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Get the white halogen colour lightbulb brighter compare to yellow one. Only halogen lightbulbs are legal tho
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post Sep 26 2019, 07:24 PM

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QUOTE(jerm57 @ Sep 26 2019, 05:52 PM)
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2010 Saga FL. The bulbs was last changed a little over 5 years ago. Also, which one to get? Got so many. H1, H3, H4, H7. What's the difference?
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Should be H4. You can ask the BLM/FL/FLX car club thread in car clubs forum subsection, link below:

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4056858

QUOTE(Captain89 @ Sep 26 2019, 07:07 PM)
I guess few generations back saga. Probably flx
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2010 is BLM.

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post Sep 26 2019, 09:03 PM

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yes, it is H4
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post Sep 27 2019, 12:06 AM

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U might wanna check the bulb sitting correctly inside holder.
From what i see on the road, some car blinding opposite car driver bcoz of the bulb sitting issue. Mostly 1 headlamp side blinding others .

And another thing, make sure headlamp alignment adjusted properly.
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post Sep 27 2019, 12:32 AM

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QUOTE(jerm57 @ Sep 26 2019, 05:52 PM)
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2010 Saga FL. The bulbs was last changed a little over 5 years ago. Also, which one to get? Got so many. H1, H3, H4, H7. What's the difference?
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H1,H3 and H7 are single filament but H4 dual filaments. Opt for H4
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post Sep 27 2019, 08:15 AM

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QUOTE(jerm57 @ Sep 26 2019, 05:52 PM)
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2010 Saga FL. The bulbs was last changed a little over 5 years ago. Also, which one to get? Got so many. H1, H3, H4, H7. What's the difference?
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Mind you that do not expect those high performance halogen bulb will last like your old stock bulb. For example Osram Night Breaker Laser only have around 200-250 hours of working life.
Anyway, I assume you don't really drive with headlight on much of the time because your old stock halogen bulb last 5 years notworthy.gif
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post Sep 27 2019, 09:10 AM

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buy the original one will do.
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post Sep 27 2019, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(fireballs @ Sep 27 2019, 09:10 AM)
buy the original one will do.
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Cannot lahh... During CNY when going back to hometown in Ipoh at night, can only see 2-3 car lengths in front when driving through those old curvy roads. Some parts got no street lamp so I think really need to power up.

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Not wanna be an ass, but when I google most of it says H7. Guess I'll have to unplug my old ones and check.
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post Sep 27 2019, 10:23 AM

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check lazd for h7 led headlight bulb... recomen novsight 10k LM H7 60W LED... lifespan better than shit osram or philip
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post Sep 27 2019, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(jerm57 @ Sep 27 2019, 10:16 AM)
Cannot lahh... During CNY when going back to hometown in Ipoh at night, can only see 2-3 car lengths in front when driving through those old curvy roads. Some parts got no street lamp so I think really need to power up.

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Not wanna be an ass, but when I google most of it says H7. Guess I'll have to unplug my old ones and check.
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You could be right since I can't remember also.
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post Sep 27 2019, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(Scissorshand @ Sep 27 2019, 10:23 AM)
check lazd for h7 led headlight bulb... recomen novsight 10k LM H7 60W LED... lifespan better than shit osram or philip
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original car bulb is h4, fitting is h4, how can h7 bulb sit in h4 lamp assembly?
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post Sep 27 2019, 10:50 AM

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I hv installed for viva bulb bought from mr diy. Those bulb come with blue surface colour, around rm20.

Much better light vs existing bulb(maybe dh worn out), slightly whitish light.

For rm20, i am very happy with the results.
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post Sep 27 2019, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(jerm57 @ Sep 26 2019, 06:27 PM)
Probably not so serious lah. My headlamps have a sticker coat that is still very clear but a got a bit hairline cracks. As for the light, it's consistent and doesn't change when driving. Obviously, when it's dark can see the light. But when park under a street lamp, then my light get drowned out.
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If that's the case then, a new bulb would be sufficient. I'd choose from reputable brands like Koito, PIAA, Hella, Philips or Osram coz they specialize in lighting. Without any modification, maybe you can spend a bit more for their high range offering like the Philips X-TremeVision or Osram Nightbreaker that throws more light.

As for color temperature, I personally prefer to stay around 4000K where the color has a mix of white and yellow for my stock lighting setup. Yellow street lights can easily 'drown' out white/blue-based light and these higher temperature lights also gets reflected a lot more by water droplets during heavy rain.

QUOTE(jerm57 @ Sep 26 2019, 05:52 PM)
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2010 Saga FL. The bulbs was last changed a little over 5 years ago. Also, which one to get? Got so many. H1, H3, H4, H7. What's the difference?
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2010 Saga BLM comes standard with H4 bulbs, while the facelifted FL and FLX come with type H7. You can't use other types unless you also change the wiring, connector and even the housing that is already molded to fit a particular type of bulb.

QUOTE(Captain89 @ Sep 27 2019, 12:32 AM)
H1,H3 and H7 are single filament but H4 dual filaments. Opt for H4
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H4 has dual filament each for low and high beam, with a total of 3 connectors behind it. So you cannot simply 'plug and play' as mentioned.
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post Sep 27 2019, 10:54 AM

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Then, why the halogen bulb did not last long for most proton car? Example preve, suprima, waja.

But on perodua car, mostly 1 year is ok for the bulb. Could it be due to earthing reason?
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post Sep 27 2019, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Sep 27 2019, 10:54 AM)
Then, why the halogen bulb did not last long for most proton car? Example preve, suprima, waja.

But on perodua car, mostly 1 year is ok for the bulb. Could it be due to earthing reason?
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so many reasons to why bulbs cannot last
could be earthing
could be quality of the bulb
could be electrical, current not stable
could be vibration of the light assembly.
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post Sep 27 2019, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(matrix88 @ Sep 27 2019, 11:02 AM)
so many reasons to why bulbs cannot last
could be earthing
could be quality of the bulb
could be electrical, current not stable
could be vibration of the light assembly.
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i tried to generalize, about 3 preve, 1 suprima, 1 waja campro non cps (all office car) had the bulb blown averaging 6 months above. the other 2 waja cps light did last longer due to HID.
office also fed up paid visit to SC for bulb changing but not long-lasting. sometime our colleague had to change outside for this.

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Sep 27 2019, 11:10 AM)
i tried to generalize, about 3 preve, 1 suprima, 1 waja campro non cps (all office car) had the bulb blown averaging 6 months above. the other 2 waja cps light did last longer due to HID.
office also fed up paid visit to SC for bulb changing but not long-lasting. sometime our colleague had to change outside for this.
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preve, suprima, waja campro all share the same electrical architecture. most lightly it is the current that is not stable, try using a meter to check, and if yes, installing voltage stabilizer might help
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post Sep 27 2019, 12:15 PM

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Wow..I have never change light bulb for my Avanza for 13 years until I sold it.

In fact, the old Iswara that I owned also never change bulb for 10 years.

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Sep 27 2019, 11:10 AM)
i tried to generalize, about 3 preve, 1 suprima, 1 waja campro non cps (all office car) had the bulb blown averaging 6 months above. the other 2 waja cps light did last longer due to HID.
office also fed up paid visit to SC for bulb changing but not long-lasting. sometime our colleague had to change outside for this.
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I'm one of those lucky Preve owner that has lasting headlight bulb. Along my ownership of 5 years and 9 months I've only changed the light bulb twice, each time last me 2 years plus before they died (and I drive with headlights on quite frequently).
One funny thing is my top brake light has one led not working for years untill recently it suddenly revived itself. rclxub.gif
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post Sep 27 2019, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Sep 27 2019, 10:54 AM)
Then, why the halogen bulb did not last long for most proton car? Example preve, suprima, waja.

But on perodua car, mostly 1 year is ok for the bulb. Could it be due to earthing reason?
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7 out of 10 Lagi Best Myvi OTR also have blown third brake light.

My in-laws mia Myvi change that bulb on average every 6 mths until sold the car. Worse is most owners don't realize it because they can't see it and typically nobody checks the rear lights.

Modern cars mia electronics really pening.
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post Sep 27 2019, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(Deja Vu @ Sep 27 2019, 10:51 AM)

2010 Saga BLM comes standard with H4 bulbs, while the facelifted FL and FLX come with type H7.
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Actually I just found out that Saga FL was launched at the end of 2010. So his car could be either BLM or FL.
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post Sep 27 2019, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(matrix88 @ Sep 27 2019, 10:44 AM)
original car bulb is h4, fitting is h4, how can h7 bulb sit in h4 lamp assembly?
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quick read mentioned its H7, regardless TS can check himself in lzd
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QUOTE(jerm57 @ Sep 26 2019, 05:52 PM)
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2010 Saga FL. The bulbs was last changed a little over 5 years ago. Also, which one to get? Got so many. H1, H3, H4, H7. What's the difference?
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this u need open up your headlight bulb and see what H? is written there... only can fit same H? number.. like if H4 need to find H4...if H7 written there need to fit H7.. cannot take H4 put into H7 or any other number bulb
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mine 2011 FL.

your is H7 if headlamp got separate 1 normal bulb and 1 high beam bulb.

H4 if only got 1 bulb (normal light and high beam is one bulb)


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post Sep 28 2019, 05:00 PM

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Another fcuker going white eh? White is really damn annoying at night.
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Sep 28 2019, 05:00 PM)
Another fcuker going white eh? White is really damn annoying at night.
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No larr... when properly done, it will be directed to the road. Only assholes adjust it higher because it looks "brighter".

 

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