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post Oct 10 2019, 04:29 PM

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Thanks be to God for allowing the Holy Bible to be translated into the English language from its original written language, in order that an uneducated person like me can understand. As long as this poor man call and our Lord answers my call, I think that should be alright.

I have to say that I do admire others that go to the extreme in learning Hebrew or Greek, just to understand the Holy Bible in its original form. Well, as long as our God answers all of our call in times of distress, praise be to God.
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post Oct 18 2019, 04:23 PM

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Praise the Lord !
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post Oct 21 2019, 05:28 PM

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My father-in-law suffered a 2nd stroke last Friday (couldn't walk) and by today he has recovered tremendously (started to walk again but slowly) because God always answers prayers. The doctor was surprised that nothing was done after the 1st stroke, which also showed up in today's CT Scan.

My BP Monitoring device was registering Irregular Heartbeat occasionally but my father-in-law simply refused to believe the BP monitoring device.

This time around he was willing to go to the hospital so that appropriate medication could be administered.

Praise be to God forever and ever. Amen.

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post Oct 29 2019, 09:56 PM

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Ha ha ha
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post Nov 3 2019, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Nov 3 2019, 01:10 PM)

No, unmarried Christians willfully marrying unbelievers is a sin. .
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Please show me specifically where in the Holy Bible says that such union is a SIN ?
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post Nov 3 2019, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Nov 3 2019, 04:01 PM)
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1COR.7:39 (NKJV) = 39 A wife is bound by law as long as her husband lives; but if her husband dies, she is at liberty to be married to whom she wishes, only in the Lord.

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2COR.6:14-18 = 14 Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness? And what communion has light with darkness? 15 And what accord has Christ with Belial? Or what part has a believer with an unbeliever? 16 And what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For you are the temple of the living God. As God has said:

“I will dwell in them
And walk among them.
I will be their God,
And they shall be My people.”

17 Therefore

“Come out from among them
And be separate, says the Lord.
Do not touch what is unclean,
And I will receive you.”
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“I will be a Father to you,
And you shall be My sons and daughters,
Says the Lord Almighty.”

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GENESIS.2:24 = 24 Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.
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1COR.6:15-20 = 15 Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ? Shall I then take the members of Christ and make them members of a harlot? Certainly not! 16 Or do you not know that he who is joined to a harlot is one body with her? For “the two,” He says, “shall become one flesh.” 17 But he who is joined to the Lord is one spirit with Him.

18 Flee sexual immorality. Every sin that a man does is outside the body, but he who commits sexual immorality sins against his own body. 19 Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own? 20 For you were bought at a price; therefore glorify God in your body and in your spirit, which are God’s.
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1COR.3:16-17 = .16 Do you not know that you are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you? 17 If anyone defiles the temple of God, God will destroy him. For the temple of God is holy, which temple you are.
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There's absolutely nothing about sin from such union in those verses.
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post Nov 3 2019, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(yaokb @ Oct 4 2019, 10:17 PM)
I find that if you simply ignore posters like these, they eventually fade back into the woodwork.

This dupe probably is one of our regular friends who visit us from time to time.

His doctrines are unusual to say the least but are mostly harmless other than give the rest of us a bad rep.

So, no harm done
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I reckon you are right and I never thought I would have to use the Ignore List here but I have to just to keep my sanity.

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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Oct 8 2019, 08:59 AM)
2) concerning the many "new" posters and some of the subject matter, we had better be wise as serpents and innocent as doves

Good day to you all.
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I hear you man. Our Lord Jesus Christ warns us about false teachers. Even the Devil knows how to quote Sacred Scriptures !

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post Nov 5 2019, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Nov 5 2019, 05:09 PM)
Is there such practice as spiritually married ?
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I am afraid there is no such thing spiritual marriage in Christianity. For it runs against the teaching of our Lord Jesus Christ directly.
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post Nov 5 2019, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Nov 5 2019, 05:05 PM)
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I just asked if he could lead me in spiritual growth.

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That is a very good start indeed, which is wise of you.

But be careful as you began on this beautiful journey of getting to know Almighty God, the evil one will always be there to demotivate you in one way or another.

At your age, I made wilful decision to understand everything in the Holy Bible. My only regret now, I should have done it much much earlier. Once you experience and witness the miracles done by our Lord, nothing else really matters. 😊

B = Basic
I = Instructions
B = Before
L = Leaving
E = Earth

God Bless.

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post Nov 6 2019, 05:37 AM

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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Nov 5 2019, 11:26 PM)
Got it. Thanks for sharing.

Hope one day I can testify how scary the temptation to sin is. Especially sin of lust which I am struggling right now.
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What you are actually struggling with right now, is repentance. Real repentance for our Lord Jesus Christ says "Repent for the Kingdom of Heaven is close at hand."

When you truly understand what real repentance really is, then it will not be that easy for the devil to tempt you any longer with sin.

Then you will be able to testify effectively, for with God everything is possible. 😊

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post Nov 10 2019, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Nov 9 2019, 10:35 AM)
Nope. I dont have any thoughts like that. I know God loves me and He's a forgiving God. But its just when I pray, I dont seem to hear what He wants to tell me. We pray to understand God will but how?
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Studying the Scriptures is the only way to understand God's will especially the Gospel. It is not as hard as you have made it out to be but you would have to give yourself time in getting to know our Lord. Patience.

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QUOTE(MasBoleh! @ Feb 12 2020, 04:15 PM)
Noted. Thank you so much 🙏

So you are saying all the churches that focused on false gospel shall be avoid right?

But because I am still new, so I am not really sure which one is right and which one is wrong. That’s why it got me worry as if I will to become a Christian, I wish to be a true Christian that follow the right gospel.
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Hi MasBoleh, do not worry. Whatever it is, just continue to focus on reading & understanding the Holy Bible especially the Gospel with the guidance from the Holy Spirit. In time to come with persistance, you will definately be able differentiate the right from the wrong.

With regard to another question doubting whether one should go to church or otherwise, be careful for it is the work of the evil one, always creating doubts, just to seperate us from God.

God bless.


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post Mar 17 2020, 11:47 PM

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Bro. Unknown Warrior, I think this thread has been hijacked. Becareful brethren.
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post Mar 21 2020, 11:43 PM

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Praise be to our Lord Jesus Christ for raising the dead back to life as recorded in the Holy Scriptures.
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QUOTE(popcorneater @ Mar 23 2020, 11:23 AM)
have any of you read their scripture?

i have done about a third of it.
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No thank you.
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QUOTE(popcorneater @ Mar 23 2020, 12:01 PM)
it is to understand their frame of mind.

only then we can give them answers that will challenge them to thinknfor themselves
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Sorry for the late reply, that is very noble of you and good of you too but I will have to pass. It is just not for me. I would rather delight myself completely in the Gospel. How happy are those who truly understands the meaning of every word that is found in the Gospel.

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post Mar 27 2020, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(popcorneater @ Mar 26 2020, 05:29 PM)
for reference I have put all of aral's post i can find in this thread in the spoiler.

it is clear aral is questioning from the viewpoint of a moslem.

and moslems believe that Jesus is merely a prophet and not the Son of God and also they do not believe in the Trinity.

As  christians, do we have an answer for him?

i know we all have tried in one way or another, will someone summarize the christian perspective in a single post?
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What is it that he is looking for ?
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post Mar 27 2020, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(popcorneater @ Mar 27 2020, 09:38 PM)
basically he is challenging the fact that Jesus is divine and stating that christians believe in 3 gods

from my limited knowledge i will say the following

Jesus Christ is the Son of God as shown in the New Testament.

John 3:16-17

For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.  For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.
John 3:16‭-‬17 NKJV

Jesus knew many doubted Him and at one point He told them

Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?  Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me? The words that I speak to you I do not speak on My own authority; but the Father who dwells in Me does the works.  Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father in Me, or else believe Me for the sake of the works themselves.
John 14:9‭-‬11 NKJV

aral questioned how could a god die

the answer is in Hebrews

But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels, for the suffering of death crowned with glory and honor, that He, by the grace of God, might taste death for everyone.
Hebrews 2:9 NKJV

to fulfill the requirement of payment for sin, which God already warned about since the beginning in Genesis.

And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, “Of every tree of the garden you may freely eat; but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.”
Genesis 2:16‭-‬17 NKJV

and Romans

For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Romans 6:23 NKJV

aral is arguing from a purely human understanding because how can three be one? how can god have a son? and how can a divine being be killed?

but is not the very basis of faith believing in the supernatural?

if we can believe God can create the heavens and earth, man out of dust, how much more difficult would it be for God to create an ovum, in the womb of a virgin and infuse His very being within it?

if God is omnipresence why would it be illogical for Jesus to pray to the Father for the benefit of those around Him?
for example

Then they took away the stone from  the  place where the dead man was lying. And Jesus lifted up His eyes and said, “Father, I thank You that You have heard Me.  And I know that You always hear Me, but because of the people who are standing by I said this, that they may believe that You sent Me.”
John 11:41‭-‬42 NKJV
https://bible.com/bible/114/jhn.11.41-42.NKJV

aral is basing his questions on writings produced about 600 years after the time of Christ and they were not new questions.

so many during those times did believe in a form of christianity but denied the divinity of Jesus.

as christians, we are not surprised because this has been the tactic of the devil since the beginning.

we see it in the temptation of Jesus

And the devil said to Him, “If You are the Son of God, command this stone to become bread.” But Jesus answered him, saying, “It is written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.’ ” Then the devil, taking Him up on a high mountain, showed Him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. And the devil said to Him, “All this authority I will give You, and their glory; for this has been delivered to me, and I give it to whomever I wish. Therefore, if You will worship before me, all will be Yours.” And Jesus answered and said to him, “Get behind Me, Satan!  For it is written, ‘You shall worship the Lord your God, and Him only you shall serve.’  ” Then he brought Him to Jerusalem, set Him on the pinnacle of the temple, and said to Him, “If You are the Son of God, throw Yourself down from here. For it is written: ‘He shall give His angels charge over you, To keep you,’ and, ‘In their hands they shall bear you up, Lest you dash your foot against a stone.’ ” And Jesus answered and said to him, “It has been said, ‘You shall not tempt the Lord your God.’  ”
Luke 4:3‭-‬12 NKJV
https://bible.com/bible/114/luk.4.3-12.NKJV

instead of trying to argue over words, aral should look at the overall context of what the bible actually says.

i think i have mentioned before that the bible is coherent and consistent. you find overarching connections between the old and new testaments. God is shown to be consistent in His righteousness, mercy and love.

He does not say one thing in one place then another thing elsewhere.

even from Genesis itself, the solution to sin was already presented.

And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her Seed; He shall bruise your head, And you shall bruise His heel.”
Genesis 3:15 NKJV
https://bible.com/bible/114/gen.3.15.NKJV

on the cross of Calvary, Jesus crushed the devil by dying for all mankind, making payment for sin in full.

the only requirement God has is for us to believe in Jesus, the Son He sent to us, and surrendering our lives in obedience to Him, much like returning to the original conditions in Genesis, when God instructed Adam to obey Him in not touching the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
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Yes you are correct the Holy Bible is both coherent and consistent.

Anyone who is born again will understand immediately every word that is recorded in the Holy Bible and that there is no contradiction whatsoever. If there is any contradiction at all even the slightest one, it is simply because one has not been born again.

This discourse from the very beginning was destined to end in nothing but futility. To what can I draw the concept of the Holy Trinity on ... human beings are made of flesh and blood and of the spirit. 3 elements put together and what you have is a human being. Likewise it with the Holy Trinity ie God the Father, God the Son and God the Spirit, together they make 1 God. Every Christian understands this easily and readily accepts it but to him it is impossible for God the Spirit has been permanently removed from the equation and that's where contradiction comes in. The worst of all are attempts to undermine God the Son as the rightfull Teacher, just so that personal teachings can inputed either unknowingly or worse still knowingly.

We can talk till the cows come home, it ain't going to make no difference simply because we Christians have our Lord Jesus Christ, God the Son as our cornerstone, our Teacher and our Master, while others don't. Undertaking Sacred Scripture reading for him as a scholar project, in my opinion he has too much time on his hands.

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Mar 27 2020, 10:29 PM)
I believe he's trying to sway Christians to believe in his religion POV on the Bible.

That Jesus is only a human prophet, is not God, did not die on the cross, etc etc.

And He is asking us to read the Bible for what it is, problem is, he is not reading what the Bible is saying.

A very good example.

We know All Authority in Heaven and on Earth has been given to Jesus, that is in Scripture and yet he says Not all is given.

he is contradicting what the Bible says. Problem is, he doesn't want to admit it, keeps shifting the goal post.
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Yup however there was 1 post in particular that really blew my lid off and I had to practically restrained myself from even thinking about it. I swear the words were literally at the tips of my tongue all ready to fly out.

Well the only consolation we Christians can take out from this, is to consider this a good rehash. 😂😂😂😂😂

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