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post Sep 25 2019, 08:05 AM, updated 7y ago

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Like most parents, everything Aisha Othman does is for her seven-year-old daughter Paymitra Abdullah.

Along with her husband - Paymitra's father - they live at the Desa Rejang PPR (People's Public Housing) and survive on Aisha's husband monthly salary of RM1,500 as a security guard in Cheras.

However, Aisha said, the family has been saddled with utility bills and rent, along with her mother-in-law's backdated rent of close to RM5,000.

"After we settle the bills, then we can focus on what to eat.

"Usually, after we settle all the bills in a month, we have no more money," she said, adding that they normally can only afford groceries if her husband can find odd jobs.

One time, Aisha ate nothing but uncooked rice for three days as the family could only afford to buy bread, which they reserved for Paymitra.

"There is rice at home, so I only eat rice. Not rice but uncooked rice as well as ice cubes.

"I am afraid the cooking gas will run out (if I cook the rice).

"If I ever become too hungry, I will eat ice cubes," Aisha said.

https://www.malaysiakini.com/news/493176
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post Sep 25 2019, 08:07 AM

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Poor family.
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Hmmmmmmmm..... you need to meet her in person, get a better coverage, one dimensional media never ever get the whole story
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Damn and I just threw half loaf of bread for having passed *expiry* date of yesterday...
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Lol macam not feasible jer her story
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....... Why she have a kid?
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post Sep 25 2019, 08:14 AM

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QUOTE(nikita zuleica @ Sep 25 2019, 08:08 AM)
Hmmmmmmmm..... you need to meet her in person, get a better coverage, one dimensional media never ever get the whole story
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meet the whole family better.. can ask on the spot, do some observation.


anyway, hopefully some good neighbour can help them
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every time, read such stories,, it feels sad.. but inside stories still a lot of ???..
It's better to let the social workes handle it.
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QUOTE(TrialGone @ Sep 25 2019, 08:12 AM)
....... Why she have a kid?
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1 kid only... very cukur d not berdozen2
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post Sep 25 2019, 08:26 AM

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QUOTE(vassilius @ Sep 25 2019, 08:21 AM)
1 kid only... very cukur d not berdozen2
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cukur. if dozen is rezeki. wil bash in diff tone
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post Sep 25 2019, 08:31 AM

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Why uncook?.....cannot cook the rice?.....
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Sep 25 2019, 08:31 AM)
Why uncook?.....cannot cook the rice?.....
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"I am afraid the cooking gas will run out (if I cook the rice)."


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Stuff in internet these days, skeptical of course.

But still, if have financial problem - continue living in city is NOT ideal.
Sure, it's easier said than done...
But if they have relative at rural places, that will be the best solution.
Less bill, can take care of daily necessity with far less money.

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perhaps she should consider not using a fridge.
the savings from electricity bill for the fridge alone will be enough for gas for many months.
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This one hardcore poor. Even Bangla and Myanmar guard is living a decent living here in the city. Why not them? Mom not working?
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post Sep 25 2019, 08:42 AM

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tinggal PPR, but burdened with rents and bill until cant even afford gas? the story sounds somewhat dubious


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QUOTE(TrialGone @ Sep 25 2019, 08:12 AM)
....... Why she have a kid?
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1 kid only

not like those beranak like katak
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me income rm 15k.
only rm 300 for buy food.
we are same.
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post Sep 25 2019, 08:45 AM

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I'm not sure why some ktard think her story is dubious.

Have they tried raising a family of 3 with a monthly wage of just 1.5k in Cheras?

Also, got some ppl say mother can cari work and whatnot.

If liddat, who is going to care for the kid after school? Daycare also need money wan
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QUOTE(digitalifelesss @ Sep 25 2019, 08:35 AM)
Stuff in internet these days, skeptical of course.

But still, if have financial problem - continue living in city is NOT ideal.
Sure, it's easier said than done...
But if they have relative at rural places, that will be the best solution.
Less bill, can take care of daily necessity with far less money.
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father is sole bread winner in the family .... coz they can afford to pay 5K to settle the bill
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post Sep 25 2019, 09:01 AM

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Cook rice using stove?

PPR rent = RM 124
Water bill = RM 50 max
Bill api = RM 50 max for them

Husband = RM 1500 per month....

Where the rest of money gone?
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How come after 50 year tongkat still many poor liddis?

Thats how u know nep doesnt work

Its only use to feed cronies.

Replace it with a need based policy
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wife should go out to work as well
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a lot to consider here
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How much their utilities bills?
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QUOTE(raynman @ Sep 25 2019, 08:33 AM)
"I am afraid the cooking gas will run out (if I cook the rice)."
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Cooking for 3?.....my household also cooking for 3, 2 meals a day....1 tank lasts 2 months.....
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QUOTE(bumpo @ Sep 25 2019, 08:38 AM)
perhaps she should consider not using a fridge.
the savings from electricity bill for the fridge alone will be enough for gas for many months.
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no fridge then the meat store where?

eat rice + fried egg with soy sauce everyday?
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actually i know many families also in such hardship
be it, malays, indians or chinese....
husband making only 1.5k to 2k
renting flat, one car or motorbike to work
1-2 kids....some case even no money to afford send kids to school coz no money buy school uniform, school stationery and school fee

/k/ should cukur....earning rm 10k per month
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QUOTE(Eurobeater @ Sep 25 2019, 08:45 AM)
I'm not sure why some ktard think her story is dubious.

Have they tried raising a family of 3 with a monthly wage of just 1.5k in Cheras?

Also, got some ppl say mother can cari work and whatnot.

If liddat, who is going to care for the kid after school? Daycare also need money wan
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Father can get a better prospect job rather than as a security guard man.
Go apperwntice as plumber also maybe can make more as a craftsman and got better future.
Security guard job can learn what?
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QUOTE(Eurobeater @ Sep 25 2019, 08:45 AM)
I'm not sure why some ktard think her story is dubious.

Have they tried raising a family of 3 with a monthly wage of just 1.5k in Cheras?

Also, got some ppl say mother can cari work and whatnot.

If liddat, who is going to care for the kid after school? Daycare also need money wan
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Netizen is like that la..
Comment using own logic but not putting themselves on other people shoe.


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QUOTE(mafioso @ Sep 25 2019, 09:17 AM)
no fridge then the meat store where?

eat rice + fried egg with soy sauce everyday?
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buy day to day or canned or go vegetarian

if everyday can eat rice + fried egg + kicap i think they super happy already laugh.gif
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Aiya, lipoter ask /k , /k say everyone earn minimum 20k

Lipoter didn't do any investigation, Terus say all ktards damn rich

Same story here
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QUOTE(ikankering @ Sep 25 2019, 08:26 AM)
impossible.
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50years of NEP enrich who ah?!?!
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QUOTE(TrialGone @ Sep 25 2019, 08:12 AM)
....... Why she have a kid?
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people lose their jobs after having kids all the time. nobody plans ahead for getting laid off.
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QUOTE(s@ni @ Sep 25 2019, 08:14 AM)
meet the whole family better.. can ask on the spot, do some observation.
anyway, hopefully some good neighbour can help them
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Sadly, I guess most of her immediate neighbour are in the same boat as them
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QUOTE(raynman @ Sep 25 2019, 08:05 AM)
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Like most parents, everything Aisha Othman does is for her seven-year-old daughter Paymitra Abdullah.

Along with her husband - Paymitra's father - they live at the Desa Rejang PPR (People's Public Housing) and survive on Aisha's husband monthly salary of RM1,500 as a security guard in Cheras.

However, Aisha said, the family has been saddled with utility bills and rent, along with her mother-in-law's backdated rent of close to RM5,000.

"After we settle the bills, then we can focus on what to eat.

"Usually, after we settle all the bills in a month, we have no more money," she said, adding that they normally can only afford groceries if her husband can find odd jobs.

One time, Aisha ate nothing but uncooked rice for three days as the family could only afford to buy bread, which they reserved for Paymitra.

"There is rice at home, so I only eat rice. Not rice but uncooked rice as well as ice cubes.

"I am afraid the cooking gas will run out (if I cook the rice).

"If I ever become too hungry, I will eat ice cubes," Aisha said.

https://www.malaysiakini.com/news/493176
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Macam bullshit story.

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QUOTE(Vengo @ Sep 25 2019, 08:29 AM)
Money management issue give 20k also will not survive
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lols bodo

how to manage, cukup bulan after pay all the bills no money left to buy food
dah duit tu memang tak cukup lu pusing there pusing here pun tak cukup juga
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The thing that triggers doubt is cooking rice with gas.

Even if poor can squeeze out an electric rice cooker. Most of /k consider cooking rice with gas slightly tak masuk akal, masak bubur boleh lah gas.

Eating uncooked rice even absurd. How much uncooked rice to eat at one time.
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at least got cheap ppr house....other more worse ppl live under bridge jer
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It is actually more saving to cook rice than to eat it raw. 1 cup of cooked rice can feed 2 ppl. 1 cup of raw rice can only feed 1 person. If more extreme, just cook porridge. 1 cup can feed 3 ppl.
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Cerita cam gampang. Want to gain sympathy also budget a bit la diu.

Tapi kalau yang duduk PPR dompet kena rembat claim loss of RM20-30k.
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To whoever been doubting the story condemning her. U must remember that person can be u and ur family. Sometimes due to circumstances life can bring u down much worst then that. They try to live as best with what they have with out doing ant crime is much2 better then being rich by menipu hari2 let be in business or politician curi duit rakyat.

So have some empathy and stop being a dick
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Weird, where she get the ice cube? Got fridge kah?
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QUOTE(SuperGampang @ Sep 25 2019, 09:38 AM)
To whoever been doubting the story condemning her.  U must remember that person can be u and ur family. Sometimes due to circumstances life can bring u down much worst then that. They try to live as best with what they have with out doing ant crime is much2 better then being rich by menipu hari2 let be in business or politician curi duit rakyat.

So have some empathy and stop being a dick
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So what kind of bills they need to pay until RM1500?
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QUOTE(vassilius @ Sep 25 2019, 08:21 AM)
1 kid only... very cukur d not berdozen2
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1 kid already cannot even feed herself. Think about the child's future.

Also this kind of story tend to over exaggerate so I would take it with grain of....... Salt.....would taste bit better.
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why her name Paymitra?



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Bike installment rm100
Tnb rm40
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I assume the bill figure coz even my house of 4 people, tnb never exceed rm30, water never exceed rm8, even wife all day at home

Out of rm1,500, even after minus epf, still got plenty for daily necessities

The wife also can work, take upah asuh anak orang etc

And the story really something, dont want to cook rice coz wanna save gas, no rice cooker at home eh?
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No prihatin neighbour go help and apply subsidies for them?

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post Sep 25 2019, 10:05 AM

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Eat ice cube. Means ada peti sejuk, ada air. Ada electric. Scared no gas. But ada money buy bread and rice. But no money cook rice. I cannot brain.
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QUOTE(fu'house @ Sep 25 2019, 09:29 AM)
The thing that triggers doubt is cooking rice with gas.

Even if poor can squeeze out an electric rice cooker. Most of /k consider cooking rice with gas slightly tak masuk akal, masak bubur boleh lah gas.

Eating uncooked rice even absurd. How much uncooked rice to eat at one time.
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Cook rice with gas is possible. Not all kampung have electricity.
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Sometimes people are poor for a reason.

Usually it's lack of money management skills.

Even if you give them 10k, I bet it'll be gone in a month, spent on unnecessary things.



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QUOTE(Ned_Fromthenorth @ Sep 25 2019, 08:09 AM)
Lol macam not feasible jer her story
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Raised lots of questions. Where she gets ice cubes? If from own fridge, meaning got electricity, can use rice cooker. Cooking rice over gas stove is a long lost skill.
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QUOTE(cempedaklife @ Sep 25 2019, 10:06 AM)
Cook rice with gas is possible. Not all kampung have electricity.
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Can but you rather "bazir gas" or use electric cooker for near perfect cooked rice. If gas can undercook/burnt.


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Why she cannot work?
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QUOTE(dest9116 @ Sep 25 2019, 09:42 AM)
So what kind of bills they need to pay until RM1500?
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Go ask them. We dont know what the full story is. But to just assume the worst of people by REFLECTING UR DAMN LIFE ONTO THEM are just stupid and shallow minded. It will be investigated by the relevant authorities. So let them do their job.

I found many case where people who should get help not getting them because of the failure in the communications line for example the ketua kampung tak buat kerja and their permohonan just root at their office.

In this case there must be some thing wrong some where. But dont just blame the person who suffer without knowing the full story.


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QUOTE(fu'house @ Sep 25 2019, 10:18 AM)
Can but you rather "bazir gas" or use electric cooker for near perfect cooked rice. If gas can undercook/burnt.
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They might not have rice cooker or the money to buy. So if they have stove, it is good enuf.

Let's not forget they are poor. But if they talk about gas, they should have a stove. At Least can cook. Got ice, means got water, can cook the rice.

Unless ice also everyday ppl sedekah.

What I'm saying is, it's not impossible to cook rice with stove. You are not used to it, not convenient doesnt mean it don't work.

And also, nothing wrong if all they can do is cook porridge. Better than uncooked rice, doesn't seem logical or they have less sense of logic.

I cook at home everyday for a meal at less. For a rm29.70 gas Tong, I can cook for two months. And mind you, I cook soup for 2-3 hours at least once a week. So if they have ice cube which imply they have fridge (electricity) , and uncooked rice, they definitely can cook either rice or porridge.
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QUOTE(cempedaklife @ Sep 25 2019, 10:06 AM)
Cook rice with gas is possible. Not all kampung have electricity.
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There is many way to make a fire and cook. Doesn't require gas.

Ex. wood is everywhere and it is FREE.

Even kampung people know.

So how this family can eat uncooked rice?
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maybe...she should cook outside... all u need is some bricks and top up dried wooden branch and leaves.
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QUOTE(ozak @ Sep 25 2019, 12:47 PM)
There is many way to make a fire and cook. Doesn't require gas.

Ex. wood is everywhere and it is FREE.

Even kampung people know.

So how this family can eat uncooked rice?
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exactly...but be positive.... maybe she x join pengakap when she was young... so she didnt know how to make fire
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QUOTE(Ned_Fromthenorth @ Sep 25 2019, 08:09 AM)
Lol macam not feasible jer her story
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Ice cubes?

I would think drinking water would have the same effect.

And cheaper...
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QUOTE(raynman @ Sep 25 2019, 08:33 AM)
"I am afraid the cooking gas will run out (if I cook the rice)."
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Have seen some youtube videos that cook in the fields / outside environment that use stones as makeshift stove and burning sticks to cook in a pot. And then happily eat afterwards, then upload youtube video.
How to eat hard uncooked rice?
How to even chew? rclxub.gif sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Rusty Nail @ Sep 25 2019, 10:08 AM)
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Raised lots of questions. Where she gets ice cubes? If from own fridge, meaning got electricity, can use rice cooker. Cooking rice over gas stove is a long lost skill.
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Angmoh cook rice with gas.



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QUOTE(RagingBalls @ Sep 25 2019, 12:12 PM)
Have seen some youtube videos that cook in the fields / outside environment that use stones as makeshift stove and burning sticks to cook in a pot. And then happily eat afterwards, then upload youtube video.
How to eat hard uncooked rice?
How to even chew?  rclxub.gif  sweat.gif
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I think the eating of uncooked rice is a fabrication with the intent to sensationalize the poverty issue in the press.

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QUOTE(cempedaklife @ Sep 25 2019, 11:27 AM)
They might not have rice cooker or the money to buy. So if they have stove, it is good enuf.

Let's not forget they are poor. But if they talk about gas, they should have a stove. At Least can cook. Got ice, means got water, can cook the rice.

Unless ice also everyday ppl sedekah.

What I'm saying is, it's not impossible to cook rice with stove. You are not used to it, not convenient doesnt mean it don't work.

And also, nothing wrong if all they can do is cook porridge. Better than uncooked rice, doesn't seem logical or they have less sense of logic.

I cook at home everyday for a meal at less. For a rm29.70 gas Tong, I can cook for two months. And mind you, I cook soup for 2-3 hours at least once a week. So if they have ice cube which imply they have fridge (electricity) , and uncooked rice, they definitely can cook either rice or porridge.
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Yes cookign white rice with stove is easy, we do it all the time, nasi kukus.

Also, if want to save gas, soak the rice before cooking, it will cut short the cooking time.
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Here we go again.
Somebody is poor and telling a wonky sob story and it is somebody else's fault that they are destitute or welfare people or others in authority not helping them.
Truly, now I see the meaning of "God helps those who help themselves".
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QUOTE(hirano @ Sep 25 2019, 12:13 PM)
Angmoh cook rice with gas.


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Why need angmoh?

We do it every day.
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let see..

- one child only
- hubby has fulltime job + odd jobs
- trying to pay their rental + utilities..

they are much better than those who earn 5k but still don pay back PTPTN.. maybe gov sud really recover these monies with full interest and help this family..

as for why they cant buy this or do that.. when every cent is required for immediate survival, it is hard to plan for the future..

1.5k for a family of three + debts is cheras is below poverty line already la

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QUOTE(h4r8_kIlLeR @ Sep 25 2019, 12:08 PM)
exactly...but be positive.... maybe she x join pengakap when she was young... so she didnt know how to make fire
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Many kampung people didn't join pengakap la.


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Why cannot buy candles or oil wicks to have a makeshift stove?
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QUOTE(hirano @ Sep 25 2019, 12:13 PM)
Angmoh cook rice with gas.


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Because angmoh too dumb to buy rice cooker
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QUOTE(Lowyat111x @ Sep 25 2019, 12:22 PM)
well... they are at least no money but being a responsible ppl...

they dont steal, snatch, rob...
they even pay all they owe....

better than some ham ka chan ... rent a place, messup the place and just move out, or not even pay the rent...
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Najib got RM216,000 a year sitting on 1MDB’s advisory board, says ex-CEO
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https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4842349
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but income above 980 is not poor. how?
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QUOTE(Lyu @ Sep 25 2019, 09:01 AM)
Cook rice using stove?

PPR rent = RM 124
Water bill = RM 50 max
Bill api = RM 50 max for them

Husband = RM 1500 per month....

Where the rest of money gone?
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her mother-in-law's backdated rent of close to RM5,000


tolong bayar hutang mother in law. husband anak mak...
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We are accepting in too many immigrants already until our society can barely can cope..

Sympathy has its limits.
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QUOTE(blackamikaze @ Sep 25 2019, 02:11 PM)
tolong bayar hutang mother in law. husband anak mak...
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ppr hutang can pay installment one

dont know wanna pity onot
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QUOTE(darthsmasher @ Sep 25 2019, 09:02 AM)
How come after 50 year tongkat still many poor liddis?

Thats how u know nep doesnt work

Its only use to feed cronies.

Replace it with a need based policy
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QUOTE(Candy12 @ Sep 25 2019, 02:14 PM)
We are accepting in too many immigrants already until our society can barely can cope..

Sympathy has its limits.
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Yes true...

1MDB Former CEO last drawn was 99k monthly salary
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probably has to cover expenses of mother in law also.
that's why not enough.
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QUOTE(bumpo @ Sep 25 2019, 08:38 AM)
perhaps she should consider not using a fridge.
the savings from electricity bill for the fridge alone will be enough for gas for many months.
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Depends on house also. If your house is cool brick you still get better cost benefit at the end of day.

If your house wooden neraka type like mine then yeah, refrigerator is luxurious liability (but then again you can't afford to not have one.)

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