Youth and Sports Minister Syed Saddiq Syed Abdul Rahman strongly stood by his deputy minister following claims by a senior PAS leader that Steven Sim was pursuing a Christianisation agenda.

Taking to Twitter, Syed Saddiq described Sim as a brother and said the latter was a “firm believer” in multiculturalism and moderation.

“I never once felt that he wanted to ‘Christianise’ me or KBS (The Youth and Sports Ministry).

“Stop the politics of hate and let’s build more bridges together as a united Malaysia,” the minister tweeted last night.

Yesterday, PAS deputy president Tuan Ibrahim Tuan Man accused the DAP of pursuing a Christianisation agenda by singling out Sim, and cited statements allegedly made by Sim at a forum held in a church in Kota Damansara last Saturday.

Sim responded that he had merely been highlighting values from the Bible to fellow Christians as a guide to becoming good Malaysians.

"I did not criticise or touch on other religions, and in fact urged Malaysian Christians to be good citizens who practised such values,” Sim had said.

The latter instead called on Tuan Ibrahim to respect freedom of religion, as enshrined in the Federal Constitution.

Kit Siang: I’m Buddhist, not Christian

Meanwhile, DAP lawmaker Lim Kit Siang, in his defence of Sim, accused Tuan Ibrahim of peddling fake news.

“Can Tuan Ibrahim explain what was wrong with Sim speaking at a church forum advising Christians to be good citizens?

“Is Tuan Ibrahim going to suggest that all politicians be banned from speaking at houses of worship, whether mosques, churches or temples, starting with PAS leaders?” Lim said in a statement this morning.

He further denied that DAP had a Christianisation agenda and called on the Kubang Kerian MP to cease spreading hate and division among Malaysians.

“For Tuan Ibrahim’s information and other like-minded PAS and Umno leaders, DAP has no Christianisation agenda and they should stop making such vile and baseless accusation against the DAP.

“I am a Buddhist and not a Christian,” Lim, who is Iskandar Puteri MP, said.

https://www.malaysiakini.com/news/492478

Janji dicapati by Geng lobai...

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lepas ni cakap DAP agen yahodi

But Christians value says cannot piap outside marriage.

Then how?

In b4... Dinner time with TITM soon

a populist..

Conclusion

1) A Christian cant preach in a church in front of his fellow Christians only.

2) PAS Vp man is man of poor faith. Mudah keliru.

3) PAS intends to to kerb other races from practising their own religion.


#talibanization agenda.

This post has been edited by TOMEI-R: Sep 19 2019, 09:41 AM

dap wanna komuniskan negara
dap wanna christianise negara
dap wanna yahudikan negara
mana betul nie?

cukup lar racing racist lagi

so says the guy who backtracked on kicking Zakir Naik out of the country and invited him to dinner summore. Boleh percaya-ka budak nie?

Later Suckdick will host dinner for Tuan Ibrahim Tuan Man just like he did for Zakar Naik..

I was just going to say that.

same as islam and other religion laaaa

This post has been edited by ImUrDaddY: Sep 19 2019, 09:43 AM

What I never understand about PAS is they always accuse DAP as secularism and Christianism. wtf how can one be both???

Q: who did he say it to?
A: Christian

Q: where did he say it at ?
A: Church

and then side with them....damn...would love to see all those

Christians only follow what they want from bible, not all from bible

This is a serious statement from me

Talk so much for what. Just lodge police report la.

Kit Siang: I’m Buddhist, not Christian

Lol hammer slam right on the lazy dude that never research before opening the mouth.

He could have say DAP wanted to spread buddhism and perhaps he can get a passing mark.

But if he said LKS is a superman, I bet his men would have believe it anyway.

again..... cepat sangat bukak mulut,... xpsl2 kena uturn lagi for damage control...
seriously this guy very green in politic....

many human will follow their own desire, not only christian. if not then u wont see some many kes makan tuaian sendiri

Also got moderate christians kan? Well, we are sinners...

Pas stepping up their game after Ummah yo.

this cb PAS trying to promote islamization of the nation, but nobody complain

*Ayat popular yang sering digunakan.

"Kalau nak _____________, buat kat rumah, jangan buat kat luar, hormat sikit kepada majoriti!"

a) makan babi
b) minum arak
c) berjudi
d) berdakwah (non punya religion, (dalam gereja, kuil, tokong pun tak boleh))
e) makan semasa bulan puasa

Hahahaha

Why? You hate Christians so much ah PAS?

THAT is because you do not understand the bible.

Lol as if other people of other faith are not like that

Religion is quite a joke

agen dajjal fitnah n spread hate...

this guy sometimes as correct/accurate as omega sometimes broke worse than bukit bintang SEIKQ watch

This post has been edited by GHBZDK: Sep 19 2019, 10:12 AM

parti ajaran sesat...what can we expect?...

i was lied to. what happen to the Jewish/communist agenda?

I'm not talking about the followers, I'm talking about the religion

Ask christian woman to wear something to cover their hair as mary, and compare what they will say and what christian say

Mata dia ada infection? Macam dah merah? Inb4 kena jangkitan najib.

PAS faith so fragile...see cross think ppl want to Christian them....

U wait... this guy uturn faster then

Wow, first they demonize the Chinese which is 23% of Malaysians. They want to spread fear that the 50% need to fear the 23%.

Then they demonize the Christians which makes up 9% of the population. That the 50% need to fear the 9%.

If anyone believe this shit, they are either naively stupid, or willingly used to spread fitnah.

Pas bodo as usual..

Same with Islam lah...

There are Muslims who don't practise their religion...and there are Christians who don't practice their religion.

Piap first, repent later.

Well. Zakir naik talk in an event with muslim and others free to join. U dumbass bukak thread hari2. Apa salah sekali sekala kene gak. Padan muka.

Spiritual successor to KJ, lalang level >9000.

Talibans don't care, mission accomplished edi. Their walauns all pancut awal edi wooo dap datang lagi dengan agenda kristian, dap jahat, berdirilah tegang belakang ulama, islam terancam ayuh bangkiiit.

Should sue this barger, cannot kasi chan. 48 hours passed edi, hope DAP do it, do iiiit.

add on to this, his statement didn't offend/belittle/disrespect others, unlike the other camp

No need to repent as all sin - past, present, future, forgiven

PAS leaders many mangkuk

Is there anything mention in the bible that one should cover their hair like mary?

https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/Covering-Heads

Have you check each of the passage if not don't talk cock lah

Open all kind of bible and compare
Or just open apps bible in ur phone

No need until doing academically religion comparison to study them extensively

Just go with each religion basic first

The question is: do christian follower, follow their bible (jesus teaching), or church teaching?

Christians don't take everything from Bible as literally

Unlike some ppl take everything on Qur'an literally

Wow.


Tell us more Prophet Jul!

meh just like Islam, Christian also has various sects so some guy might go Protestant some might go Catholic

sectarian violence usually occur up norf in Ireland or just footy rivalry like that Rangers vs Celtic

I have a close Sabahan friend before in uni - anak priest - he's so devout it put me to shame of my hypocrisy in my faith

that's how it keep him focused with the newfound freedom in private uni while most youth drowned in worldly pleasures

This post has been edited by hakimix: Sep 19 2019, 01:00 PM

What do you want to know?

I made the comment because there are lots of perceptions gathered from 3rd parties who probably gathered it from other 3rd parties.

This post has been edited by prophetjul: Sep 19 2019, 01:40 PM

he just top up kuda power level since less noise heard

your kingdom of god is a direct attack to the religion of the federation

Lol

janji salah DAP

Aren't both religions the same?

Both view the creator of Adam and Eve as God.
So it's the same god. What's so difficult to understand?

Rindu pemerintahan ds najib

Syed should stand on his first statement on Zakir Naik.

I still believed Zakir interfere in our country politic by saying malaysian indian favor Modi more than Tun.

Its stupid and provocative by Zakir, he should be warned.


Max, stripped his PR status

It all depend on who interpret their holy book(s).

Some take moderate approaches and inclusive manners such as current Catholic Pope; some take the most bigoted manners such as some locals here.

This post has been edited by gaman: Sep 19 2019, 04:42 PM

PAS is out of agenda. Nothing come out good to help Malaysian but only with the useless rubbish and hate speech.

all religion also say cannot sex out of marriage.
but u still jual bontot ka chow kit.
salah religion kah ?

inb4 , example u only dont trigger .

This post has been edited by MadhavanR: Sep 19 2019, 04:56 PM

Christianity went through a period of extreme bigoted period. That is why after that period, most Christians take a more moderate and inclusive approach. Islam did not went through such a period yet. That is why most Muslims still adopt a very conservative and strict interpretation of their religion. Which is also why they are now viewing any liberal views on Islam as an attack on their religion and they need to create all sort imaginary villains to justify Islam under attack.

PAS MP insists church forum was political, urges authorities to probe alleged incitement

https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/201...-allege/1792108

KUALA LUMPUR, Sept 19 — A PAS MP maintained today that a forum held at a church on September 14 was used as a platform for political propaganda, rejecting a panellist and Christian group saying otherwise.

Pasir Mas MP Ahmad Fadhli Shaari insisted the “New Malaysia Narrative” forum held at the Mega Chinese Methodist Church in Kota Damansara, Selangor was political in nature, suggesting the panellists and organisers be investigated for allegedly cultivating hate among the public.

“To me, the forum is political in nature and instilling not love but hatred among the people.

“PAS has been put into the wrong spotlight as an extremist party because of PAS deputy president Datuk Tuan Ibrahim Tuan Man’s calling for the forum to be investigated,” he said in a statement here, which was published in PAS’ mouthpiece Harakah Daily.

The Council of Churches Malaysia (CCM) yesterday criticised Tuan Ibrahim for insinuating that the church social forum used for the purpose of political propaganda.

In rebutting Tuan Ibrahim’s claim, CCM clarified that the event was part of the church’s Malaysia Day observance to assist its members to contribute to nation building by participating in a shared narrative.

Deputy Youth and Sports Minister Steven Sim Chee Keong, who attended the forum as one of the speakers, was accused of zealously promoting the “Kingdom of God”, a Christian concept of a spiritual realm over which God reigns or the fulfilment of God’s will on Earth.

Tuan Ibrahim claimed that Sim allegedly preached the idea alongside other Christian topics such as the “Jesus Manifesto” at the Naratif Malaysia Baru (New Malaysia Narrative) forum on Saturday.

The phrase Kingdom of God, or Kingdom of Heaven, occurs frequently in the New Testament, primarily attributed to Jesus Christ in the first three Gospels.

In response, Sim said yesterday his reference to the Bible during the forum was merely aimed at urging Christians to become better Malaysians by rejecting racism and corruption.

The Bukit Mertajam MP stressed that he did not criticise any religion nor did he proposes the establishment of a Christian government as claimed by Tuan Ibrahim.

Sim said his speech stressed on values espoused by the Bible as guidance to become better citizens, such as justice, transparency, helping the weak and poor, rejecting corruption, oppression and racism.

Ahmad Fadhli then posed several questions to Sim and the forum’s organisers, challenging them to explain how the event was apolitical when a panellist allegedly questioned the prominence of Islam in History textbooks used in Malaysia as well as the special privileges of the Malays.

“Not political and intending to cultivate love for the country when forum panelists questioned the history textbook as allegedly containing too much elements of Islam?

“Not political and intending to cultivate love for the country when forum panelists proposed that the history textbook syllabus is changed to include more elements of Christianity?

“Not political and intending to cultivate love for the country when the forum panelists questioned the history textbooks that stated the Alliance Party was the one that obtain independence for this country?

“Will the organisers and panellists answer these questions that I posed,” he demanded.

He said the alleged topics alone were sufficient for the police to investigate.

Malay-Muslim conservative groups here have consistently spoken out against Christianisation, human rights, and religious pluralism as alleged threats to the Malay-Muslim community in recent years.

Last month, Gerakan Pembela Ummah, a coalition of Malay-Muslim groups, had listed several issues it deems “major threats” against the majority community, which included Christian evangelism.

Although we stand with syed. (Seriously, he , Nurul and Rafizi should form a new PH youth) However, the move will get backfire. Expecially after the recent ZN issues.

lucky my parliment no bersatu

mata kuda ni merah. baru lepas kena lempang ke

Truth hurt aint it? Thats why bitches like u cant handle it

I thought politician is banned in preaching at mosque, churces etc

Serius la pak lebai

Agama mana ajar nk meracist cmni

what truth idiot?

use brain when commenting

fucking loser scumbag

Why? What do you miss?

The songlap?

Rosmah using our country's jet for private shopping trips?

Rosmah issuing stupid statements as though she empathizes with everyday folks, like how her hairstylist charges her RM1200?

Selling out our country to China?

Apa lagi Cina mau?

What? What?

Priest can have kids?

Pretty sure Islam also cannot piap outside marriage

Just like 100% of religion that existed throughout history.

ini lalang kejap support brother,.. kejap support extremist,..

don't remember which sect lol but yeah the one in Kajang I think

or maybe just someone working within the church

Pastor you meaning?

Lol he's a well known racist bastard here. Anyone who talks bad bout his beloved penis up aka zakar naik n he'll respond uncontrollably.

This post has been edited by Pipopipo: Sep 19 2019, 08:45 PM

Arent other faith followers also the same ?

Sabah has seen mass christianization under certain local political party in the past. Like it or not this is real and could be happening in Semenanjung too if not detected.

This post has been edited by minoru89: Sep 19 2019, 09:02 PM

Wow! Ya ka, bos? Like how?

Why some keep repeating about the followers
Otherwise this argument will end up in loophole

Majority of sabahan is non muslim ..otherwise project ic wouldnt even existed in the first place ..project ic is an islamisation project under hmm ...

This post has been edited by yeezai: Sep 20 2019, 12:23 AM

Rindu pemerintahan ds najib

Majority of sabahan is non muslim is due to massive christianization before.. how can you be so stupid and linked project IC into this topic?

It is the same for all religion lah.

Yeah squeal moar bitch

What truth?

Lay out sini la, bodoh punya macai umno

But if their faith is strong, then Christianization shudn't pose a problem.

Government servant majority bodoh.

No surprise there

Lol not u bro. Im talking bout that gampang idiot haha.

I know, I'm trying to trigger SuperGampang

This just gives me the impression whatever he believes in, teaches hatred and that helps me even more to know what he believes in is NEVER the truth.

Helps us even more to be comfortable to know the truth we've embraced.