UPDATE:

https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/201...n-claim/1791892
Syed Saddiq comes to deputy’s defence after PAS’ ‘Christianisation’ claim

https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/201...m-of-go/1791682

Accusing DAP of Christianisation, PAS leader cites Steven Sim’s ‘Kingdom of God’ remarks as evidence



KUALA LUMPUR, Sept 18 — A DAP leader’s speech to a forum held at the Mega Chinese Methodist Church in Kota Damansara, Selangor last week supports claims the predominantly Chinese party was trying to Christianise the nation, PAS alleged today.

PAS deputy president Datuk Tuan Ibrahim Tuan Man claimed Deputy Youth and Sports Minister Steven Sim Chee Keong was zealously promoting the “Kingdom of God”, a Christian concept of a spiritual realm over which God reigns or the fulfilment of God’s will on Earth.

Sim allegedly espoused the idea alongside other Christian topics such as the “Jesus Manifesto” at the “Naratif Malaysia Baru” (New Malaysia Narrative) forum on Saturday.

Today, Tuan Ibrahim used these allegations as rebuttal to descriptions of the PAS-Umno alliance that was sealed last weekend.

“PAS would like to remind the DAP and Pakatan Harapan not to bandy about the bogeyman propaganda that the unification of the ummah as a klepto-theocracy, talibanism, racism and extremism,” Tuan Ibrahim said in a statement.

“When at the same time DAP is zealously promoting ‘The Kingdom of God’ and ‘The Jesus Manifesto’ as asserted by YB Steven Sim Chee Keong... at the forum on September 14.

“What PAS and Umno are fighting for is the unification of the ummah that is inclusive by emphasising Malay-Muslim unity without prejudice towards other races... how about DAP? Is the Christianisation agenda in Malaysian politics appropriate?”

The phrase Kingdom of God, or Kingdom of Heaven, occurs frequently in the New Testament, primarily attributed to Jesus Christ in the first three Gospels.

Tuan Ibrahim allegations appear to be from a column published in Harakah Daily, PAS’s official organ, in which political analyst Kamarul Zaman Yusoff claimed Sim had spoken at length about Christianity’s Kingdom of God while criticising the PAS-Umno pact.

He said the DAP leader’s criticism of the cooperation between the country’s two biggest Malay Opposition parties was duplicitous as the latter was also riding on religion by promoting Christianity.

Kamarul claimed Sim’s praises for the Kingdom of God underpinned the party’s alleged campaign to Christianise the country.

“It is ironic that Steven Sim himself was politicking with religion, particularly for wanting to establish a Christian God government (Kingdom of God) and abusing the church for politics,” the analyst wrote.

“In his speech, Steven Sim spoke at length about how wonderful the Kingdom of God is, abiut the shape of the Kingdom of God and the kind of politics Jesus was talking about when he talked about politics.”

This is not the first time Kamarul has made such allegations. Two years ago, the Universiti Utara Malaysia (UUM) lecturer accused Women, Family and Community Deputy Minister Hannah Yeoh of promoting Christianity through her autobiography.

Yeoh, who was the Selangor State Legislative Assembly Speaker at the time, denied this and called the accusation malicious before subsequently lodging a police report. The status of the investigation remains unclear.

In November last year, Kamarul also lost a RM5 million defamation suit filed by current Islamic Affairs Minister Datuk Dr Mujahid Yusof Rawa. The civil action was settled outside of court after the UUM lecturer openly apologised for defaming Mujahid.

Malay Mail could not independently verify the purported speech Sim gave at the September 14 forum.

This post has been edited by Calvin871989: Sep 19 2019, 05:35 AM

can pas 1 day dont play R & R card can arr? Damn boring with this shit.

bagi borang pas please!

Gentleman start your engine

Dah lah event dalam Church sudah pasti ia pasal agama kristian


Habis mahu macam zakar naik tiap tiap hari hina agama lain?

If you look closely,
I think there are more than half of chinese community which isnt christian.
I think non-christian easily outnumber christian when we consider Buddhist and atheist.

So the logic of DAP trying to convert other races is damn stupid when org sendiri also blom habis convert lol

This oppo really out of topic other than DAP.

I x paham.

Now cannot talk about Christianity in church also?

So ppl go church talk about what? which pasar got ayam murah?

This post has been edited by dares: Sep 18 2019, 01:14 PM

Seriously, where to make complaints on such peoples? Tak habis2 main R&R card. Memang trying to incite hatred among malaysians.

Can we have some Mission and Vision statement from PAS, on what are their manifesto, if they ever win?

Or take for example how they managed Kelantan success stories?

race jangan tak race

Is DAP even a Christian party? hahaha

Buddha la lagi best

Oii banyak betul ko punya minyak racing non-stop?

Penat woi racing thread everyday! I want to puke already!

Hi Tun, Ini orang boleh SUE ka ?

Hari hari racing, hari hari inject "Ucapan benci" pada rakyat dengan conspirasi theory yang lebih hitam dari orang minyak !

This post has been edited by Clement1001: Sep 18 2019, 01:21 PM

Everyday r n r and nvr think about the how to improve the country...

Pas is for org bodo, rite??

from wiki , 2010 though. majority all still buddhist

I dont blame him really

I blame the people who allow all these to go on

Can DAP complain PAS out to islaminize thecountry? Why one sided coin only?

getting retarded everyday

Go balai report polis. Them force them update you report progress everyday

u don't believe this.
but orang kampung believe.
remember. pas only need win 20 parlimen seat.

Yalah, nobody take action in this people. The more they will spread.

This post has been edited by Jag23sys: Sep 18 2019, 01:23 PM

Stupidity at his best

They know nuts about economy and governance. So in order to stay relevant, they incite race and religion issues lah....and sometime sex.

This post has been edited by relaxjack: Sep 18 2019, 01:25 PM

wtf

PAS only pandai main R&R

Must potekk potekkk

Benok kakloh weh dia ni. Ore kecek pasal benda kristian dale church loh gi lah. Kito duk kecek pasal isle luar masjid pon takdok ore caro.

Nak jadi benok pon jange la pengaruh ore lain jd benok skali..

Meanwhile at home... "Eh tengok ni DAP nak tukar negara jadi Kristian." "Forward kat group kito"

This stupid guy

One dap Christian member is represent all dap opinion. ?

Steven should sue this moron ass until bankrupt

This is new level of retardness. Not just full retard, this is overwhelming retard.

You will be seeing a mob baying for blood at DAP HQ less than 24 hours from the statement.

This post has been edited by ZeroSOFInfinity: Sep 18 2019, 01:31 PM

Spreading christianity in church? What? In church you talk christian and in mosque you talk islam.

What the fella trying to say

U makan babi kat non halal restaurant salah u juga sebab itu kira mau buat saya makan walau tak ada sebut apa apa hal pasal saya

Oh islamize can

Christianize tak buleh

Memang bodoh R&R pas warrior

normal la they just speak what their supporters wanna listen.

btw his statement is wrong though. dap is jewish

Ironically they can talk islam in mosque. Logic 404.

BtW can they just sync what is DAP is? I know they are cina, komunis, yahoodee, now nasrani? Tolong lar stick to 1 story. Adoi.. PAs bodo.

This post has been edited by kcchong2000: Sep 18 2019, 01:38 PM

Perhaps there is indeed to bring idea of multi religion in places of worship ? ie all religion should talk everyone of different religions living together this world .....the world is a place with multiple religions

This Professor Kangkung.

That's like asking them not to breathe.

in this case I miss the boldness of Dr M in the 80s

Operasi Lalang

They non stop brainwashed people that other religion trying to corrupt them, but they should only blame themselves for being easily confused and not capable to think for oneself.

What logic they have? Logic lembu.

that's why PAS will never have a slight chance in Swak

Sampah leader

Canada, Australia, Germany, France, Poland.

Syria, Egypt, Iraq, Yemen, Saudi.

Hhhmn....

Kasi sue harakah.

Free moolah but they no money pay anyway

Our schools were out to "atheist-nize" the nation, but the science teachers have been doing a lousy work.

Next PAS will complain got crosses in churches . . . . I am not surprise if that happens . . .

how to christianise someone when someone is not willing to accept jesus and get baptised?


and there are non chinese non christian in DAP also

if PASNO won in the next election, say bye-bye to everything Malaya.

Economy, Visa Free Countries etc. Everyday will play R&R card
Sarawak will tighten border control and hopefully Sabah will push for its own border control. They might even opt for their own passports like Hong Kong and Macau in China.

Typical sohai spewing nonsense ...

he belongs in JAIL . trying to divide people .

is this pus all about ??

Lai lo vvrroom kuat lagi

Lagi kuat

Someone should remind him that Jesus said to respect the authorities and pay taxes even to imperialist invaders

Go and fucuk yourself.
Everyday Christianise the nation.
Lim peh is a Taoism and I don't buy this shit.

Kesian other religions like buddhist n taoism diketepikan.

Parti Ajaran Sesat only knows how to fitnah and play R&R. Only stupid idiots will vote and support PAS.

As if 1 YB can influence the whole nation.

PAS got 1 state, telur already goyang from unrelated statement made in church congregation?

How come didnt make noise when ZN comment about your own countrymen in his preaching?

OMG .. I skeding of cross ..

Know your place, peasant. How dare you challenge those on high religious horse?

Christianisation

Kingdom of God is a common word in Christian worships

Don't be braindead Tuan Ibrahim, bodoh mangkuk hayun orang tua ni

If PAS won, they told you don’t need to work, yang penting dunia akhirat! Kelantan will be second capital state, all budget on hold yang penting oil royalties masuk kasi semua dulu .

and Bintulu ceramah is wat?

Why you tell lies to hurt your country....

LGE ikut nabi boleh pulak lulz

I sked jawi more..

This retard thought all DAP members are Christians? Cone on, thus is not true at all. Chinese always put religious at their last important list and we chinese concern about economy and harmony more than anything else.

To all muslims friends, pls do not easily believe into this childish and selfish statement. Pls have rational thinking and make let's work together to bring this nation prosperity and I hope everyone will be having financial freedom lifestyle, free education till tertiary and also free and better subsidised healthcare.

Pls do not again believe in this silly religious propaganda.

Yes, be afraid, be very afraid.

Imma gonna mount a big “t” in front of my house to ward off these idiots evils.

fearing DAP of christianizing Msia the is the same as fearing PAS of buddhafying Msia

prolly retard everyday. just that these days it gets to the press

fitnah is a big sin for those who believe in this religion, no?
prepare to burn in hell

idiot

The problem with pas is their poor command of english. They don't understand the kingdom of god could be referring to heaven and not changing the government and what is wrong to have a godly kingdom if every religion promotes peace and goodness among its citizen?

PAS= Kingdom of Dungus

You'd be surprised what they shout every night in certain mosques. Loudspeaker and all.

The thing is quite a, few prominent DAP leaders are Christian. But yes, majority of the Chinese members reflect the, rest of us. Mostly Buddhist.

But its hard to paint Buddhists as enemies since even Muslims know the religion is very passive when it comes to proselytising. Christians are rather more active, so they make, easier targets as imaginary bogeyman.

These people can not live in the Kingdom of God? That explains almost everything.

A kingdom of conscience...a kingdom of heaven. Be without fear in the face of your enemies. Be brave and upright, that God may love thee. Speak the truth always, even if it leads to your death.

Stupid leader chosen by stupid followers. What to do ..

It’s already obvious that PAS will use this as an opportunity to make it an R&R issue.
So I think it’s best for DAP to just stay the fuck away from religion at the moment? Just keep your religion to yourself and not promote kingdom this kingdom that? Doing that is shooting yourself in the foot and giving free ammo to PAS. Because we all know that’s how PAS works.

Ok.

PAS leader can talk about Islam but
Dap cannot talk about Kristian.

In church event, can not talk about god?

here we go again,tak habis masalah dgn masalah agama,bangsa,warna…tak ada kerja lain kah?

So now one cannot talk about their religion in their sacred place ..

UN
dah la dupe

First day come to Malaysia?

How about some test on your Malaysianess. Fill in the blank below.

B_ _ _ i_ _ m_ _ _ _ s_ _ _ _ ?

their wisdom, what can u expect them to play?

got ! play 11yo cipap

Taknak orang masuk campur agama dia, tapi bila agama orang lain bukan main lagi laju nk masuk campur

#paspispus

meanwhile resident pas supporters in /k

krik krik

mau tegakkan justice konon
owait only selective justice

if i becometh DAP Christian, does i get nice christian chicks?

asking for a friend

True
Religion of Malaysia
Muslim (official) 61.3%,
Buddhist 19.8%,
Christian 9.2%,
Hindu 6.3%,
Confucianism, Taoism, other traditional Chinese religions 1.3%,
other 0.4%, none 0.8%, unspecified 1% (2010 est.)

Chinese Over 80% are Buddhist, <11% are christian.
Even a high school children can get this statistics.

So all politicians grow a brain

go back to Malayan Union lor

To some politicians, facts doesnt matter...white also can turn into black.

Dap dis, Dap dat.

Damn boring

Later say DAP became Atheist party because last time got talk about religion, now quiet...

This post has been edited by wonderbar99: Sep 18 2019, 09:15 PM

This.

Can they fucking make up their minds whether DAP is Christian or Communist? One day say communist, next day say Christian, KEKPOT.

Even their macai also got confused lah like that...

This post has been edited by msacras: Sep 18 2019, 09:23 PM

You cant complain them, they can only complain you. That’s the law of this land. Hina them and their religion you kena 15 yrs jail.

So if Tom cruise promote Scientology mean all Hollywood actor is promote Scientology ?

This tuan punya Logic is so bodoh