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post Sep 17 2019, 11:41 AM

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Are our politicians really not aware of the haze in this country???????? I dont see anyone talking about it.

Ini dah tahap bodoh bahalol
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post Sep 17 2019, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(ZeaXG @ Sep 17 2019, 11:50 AM)
Politicians also work within the realms of economics of supply and demand.

The populace love racial topics, politicians supply it in order to gain power and followers.
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Im aware of that. And i kind of agree with u. Which is what i once debated with that harum manis fella it starts with voters. And just in the other thread, still got people plotek the politicians even when our country is facing this bad haze.

Stupid voters create stupid politicians. Thats that
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post Sep 17 2019, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(tokdukun @ Sep 17 2019, 12:23 PM)
Did u even read her page?
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post Sep 17 2019, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(tokdukun @ Sep 17 2019, 12:26 PM)
I did. Did you?
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Everyday actually to know haze update. Since i have kids, and 1 of them have asthma.

And what action have she taken against the haze? Pembenihan awan? Thats all. After that lawan cakap with indon like in k?

Im asking u, what action did she take to make sure this doesnt happen again??? Did she bring this matter to ASEAN or UN? Nope. Just, im right ur wrong kind of argument. Indon also lazy to entertain. What a joke.
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post Sep 17 2019, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(Robin Hood @ Sep 17 2019, 12:36 PM)
Bring this matter to un? What????? Just tell me how???. inform every Asean countries we need to have meeting at xxxxxxxx time and location to address haze issue, and then they receive  the message and all agree for a meeting. U think it's that simple meh?
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Yes actually.

1st, call for a meeting. And then representative from each country will meet up. Not ministers, just gov servants and those who represent the ministers. When they meet, they will discuss on the issues at hand and what each country stand is. If needed, ministers of each country will come n meet. If no decision is made, when the official ASEAN meeting takes places leaders from each country will meet n try to find a solution.

That is for ASEAN.

For UN, they always have an assembly. Just need to book a slot to address each nation concern.

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post Sep 17 2019, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(dickybird @ Sep 17 2019, 12:52 PM)
Go open your own thread.
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Why?
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post Sep 17 2019, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(tokdukun @ Sep 17 2019, 12:57 PM)
So why SG didn't do that too, they also affected. SG politicians all also lauya quality like PH? Lel.
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U Singaporean or malaysian?

We need to wait for singapore approval to do anything?

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post Sep 17 2019, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(ed1torz @ Sep 17 2019, 01:11 PM)
sbbnye, sepatutnye thread camni kena wujub 15 tahun sebelum ni...

brg haze nih...topic lama...cuma xde kesudahan
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Memang tiap tiap tahun wujud. Kutuk2, habis haze, semua diam. Ahli politik pun diam. Tahun seterusnye repeat. Ingat dah tukar pentadbiran ada la action sikit.

Sama je.
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post Sep 17 2019, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(tokdukun @ Sep 17 2019, 01:42 PM)
Because if they didn't do, it's telling something? You so dense? All SG politicians also bodoh bahalol?

First accuse nobody do anything, bodoh bahalol. I showed YBY did something, u uturn oh only cloud seeding, why not bring to ASEAN, UN. If kiasu SG also didn't do, what does that say?

Ini you said do nothing? Unless want us to suka2 langgar masuk Indo macam negara bapak kau? You wanna take responsibility? Siapa bodoh bahalol?



Hipokrit tak sedar diri. Nobody asked about your kid got asthma, you showed just how personal and biased you are.
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Dude... U think this is the 1st haze we got ke? Almost every year got. Many times our ministers go meet indon counterparts. And even now they want to find the root cause?

Come on la bodoh bahalol. Think properly la. What is real action and what is just politic talk.
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post Sep 17 2019, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Sep 17 2019, 02:20 PM)
but hes right u know? u only know how to complain but never offer any real solutions or constructive criticism.
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Well, the minister have all the data and resources. Have many political appointees to assist. Have lawyers and those that are expert in international law.

And u saying they dont know how to handle this? Same during BN time.

Need some unknown guy from a forum to help them?

Remind me again why we need to change administration?
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post Sep 17 2019, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Sep 17 2019, 04:02 PM)
if the issue is at another country, how to stop the fires? start invading Indonesia with fire fighter squadron?

seriously, your logic okay or not?

protip: its easier to admit your mistake, say sorry and move on unless your ego and pride is in the way.
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Dunno. We have no problem condemning israel actions towards palastine. Hey, that happened in other country. Doesnt even have any impact on us, yes.. we can condemn israel actions. Even brought the matter in UN.

So... what makes this indon haze any different? This much worst, directly affect us. And u saying we should just dok diam do nothing since its indon matter. Is that it?

Ur logic is, since tun got problem with israel, we should just go invade israel. Like that?

I dont know whats wrong with u people. Dulu during BN, we were all together kutuk indon action and kutuk BN for not doing anything about. But just for sake of protecting PH, u guys would go this low? Come on man.

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post Sep 17 2019, 05:17 PM

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And to add in the past, during haze season, i fail to find any comments that protect the administration of that time. All were united kutuk BN for not doing anything. Even BN supporters wasnt stupid enuff to protect BN.

But PH supporters, my god i cant believe what im reading. Theres actually people who protect PH, even at a time like this?????

Seriously, u guys just went full retard. I mean, full throttle retard here. I underestimated u guys macainess. Im done.
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post Sep 17 2019, 06:53 PM

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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Sep 17 2019, 05:48 PM)
Dah masuk israel pulak? tf? lmao

So you saying we should invade Indonesia?  biggrin.gif

Since when we kutuk BN when Indonesia chokes the atmosphere? We all KUTUK INDON what? right? you forgot?
We've already condemned Indonesia, but they remain stubborn, their eco minister also clowned around the subject and throw the ball at our face despite data and satellite images showing otherwise.  You know what should be doing? is that Malaysians criticising Indonesia unanimously, but here you are picking at own government for allegedly being ineffective? what?

Habislah like this, later just coz you dont like the current government, you're going to side with the next external entity that throws aspersions at our country.

I know there are some retards out there who diss own country because of their inferiority complex and ashamed at our own countries capabilities no matter how shitty  the opponent but what about you? Just coz you dont like the present government, you cant show some unity as a Malaysian citizen?
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Go look back at past threads about haze. Before ph won.
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post Sep 17 2019, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Sep 17 2019, 05:51 PM)
WRONG. Are you making up your own stories?  Whenever the haze happened in the past, the number one target of backlash is aimed squarely at INDONESIA.

Every Malaysian ( even Singapore)  condemned Indonesia, suddenly you rope in BN ? since when it was BN's fault?
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Look at past haze threads
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post Sep 17 2019, 07:07 PM

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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Sep 17 2019, 05:51 PM)
WRONG. Are you making up your own stories?  Whenever the haze happened in the past, the number one target of backlash is aimed squarely at INDONESIA.

Every Malaysian ( even Singapore)  condemned Indonesia, suddenly you rope in BN ? since when it was BN's fault?
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And this is what dap have to say in the past. The same thing what i said.

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/dap-...ct-haze-problem

But u just laugh it off. Now got proof, even DAP said our gov need to do something about it and call on ASEAN to tackle the issue.

But u, i said like that, u just say need invade. I facepalm

Hope u realize what u have become now.

And to top it off, theres actually a haze agreement for asean countries.

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post Sep 17 2019, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Sep 17 2019, 07:33 PM)
DAP was just being a stupid bitch at the time. lol if Indonesia is being non committal (they still are) then how piang wanna force them to sign? 

every year deal with the same issue is coz Jakarta is being adamant of shirking responsibility and play dodgeball, apart from the haze that happens every year, the other yearly event is Indonesia's insistence they are innocent.

oh ya, and signing the agreement is one thing, HONORING IT is another.
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But our current gov didnt even talk about the agreement.

U can just do a simple google on the history of our haze. Many articles call for our gov to do something about it.

And now, u.... Since PH has come to power, just say its not our gov duty.

Seriously
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post Sep 17 2019, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Sep 17 2019, 07:43 PM)
true tho, thread derailed
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Actually i dont see the seriousness of the issue. At a time our country is facing this bad haze, u guys still want to entertain things about race. I seriously dont know where u guys place ur priorities. Say race politics should stop, dont talk about race politics... and yet, u guys more interested about threads regarding race.

The more u guys entertain, the more those politicians like. Just like the BMF movement, u guys are just helping promoting it.
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post Sep 17 2019, 08:06 PM

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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Sep 17 2019, 07:55 PM)
from haze-racism in a heartbeat! how is that even linked? i kenot brain your thought systems these days bro😂

hey since when i raised anything abt race?  We are speaking against racist fookers, not promote  it.
Keeping silent means giving the stage to the extremists who have dominated the stage for a very long time.

u expect us to keep quiet and shut up? what u expect us to do, sit quietly and hope it all goes away ? and give the stage to extremists to give birth to more snakes?
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Bcoz from the start, my point is we should be more concern about the haze rather than what hadi said. Im sure no one here agrees with him. So, whats the point of talking about it. Just to feel good?

Actually no. In politics, reaction is what politicians want. Controversy create reaction. Reaction spread awareness. And thus makes people more aware of the politician existence and his message spreads faster.

U are just helping him. Thats why politicians really likes creating controversy. But altho at times, doing it wrong may backfire, that depends on the politicians wit.

Politicians survive thru crowd. They will die without them.

Remember that.

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post Sep 17 2019, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Sep 17 2019, 08:12 PM)
Also remember this, perhaps a very important lesson.

What happened is not really important, whats more important is how reality is being perceived.

perception is everything in the game of politics. How can you command the perception of the masses without saying a word?

frequency, prominence and familiarity makes people remember. You cannot create that kind of impact without any spreading the message right? keeping quiet means being forgotten and being drowned by the narrative of others and in tis case, the conservative and extremist.

besides, people on the middle ground have been quiet for far too long. Its time to correct  perception of the masses and brighten the darkness.
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When u do not talk about it, the message will only be contained in their own circle. But when outsiders talk about it, u just brought the message outside of that circle.
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post Sep 17 2019, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Sep 17 2019, 08:26 PM)
people are going to talk, and they will talk to other people will talk to other people.

dude. 😂 we are living in the information age. U still think information is static?  its as fluid as ever!  people are gonna share nevertheless, and u have no idea on the rate of penetration
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And im trying to spread the awareness to not be used by politicians. Many people here think they are doing the right thing, but not knowing they are being used by the politicians. Hadi is a seasoned politician. He didnt stay on top for a long time for just being stupid. He probably already calculate his words will bring what kind of reaction. And thats what he want, if not he would say something different.

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