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Einjahr
post Sep 17 2019, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(silent_stalker @ Sep 17 2019, 02:08 PM)
Dude... U think this is the 1st haze we got ke? Almost every year got. Many times our ministers go meet indon counterparts. And even now they want to find the root cause?

Come on la bodoh bahalol. Think properly la. What is real action and what is just politic talk.
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but hes right u know? u only know how to complain but never offer any real solutions or constructive criticism.



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post Sep 17 2019, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(silent_stalker @ Sep 17 2019, 02:53 PM)
Well, the minister have all the data and resources. Have many political appointees to assist. Have lawyers and those that are expert in international law.

And u saying they dont know how to handle this? Same during BN time.

Need some unknown guy from a forum to help them?

Remind me again why we need to change administration?
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if the issue is at another country, how to stop the fires? start invading Indonesia with fire fighter squadron?

seriously, your logic okay or not?

protip: its easier to admit your mistake, say sorry and move on unless your ego and pride is in the way.

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post Sep 17 2019, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(silent_stalker @ Sep 17 2019, 05:01 PM)
Dunno. We have no problem condemning israel actions towards palastine. Hey, that happened in other country. Doesnt even have any impact on us, yes.. we can condemn israel actions. Even brought the matter in UN.

So... what makes this indon haze any different? This much worst, directly affect us. And u saying we should just dok diam do nothing since its indon matter. Is that it?

Ur logic is, since tun got problem with israel, we should just go invade israel. Like that?

I dont know whats wrong with u people. Dulu during BN, we were all together kutuk indon action and kutuk BN for not doing anything about. But just for sake of protecting PH, u guys would go this low? Come on man.
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Dah masuk israel pulak? tf? lmao

So you saying we should invade Indonesia? biggrin.gif

Since when we kutuk BN when Indonesia chokes the atmosphere? We all KUTUK INDON what? right? you forgot?
We've already condemned Indonesia, but they remain stubborn, their eco minister also clowned around the subject and throw the ball at our face despite data and satellite images showing otherwise. You know what should be doing? is that Malaysians criticising Indonesia unanimously, but here you are picking at own government for allegedly being ineffective? what?

Habislah like this, later just coz you dont like the current government, you're going to side with the next external entity that throws aspersions at our country.

I know there are some retards out there who diss own country because of their inferiority complex and ashamed at our own countries capabilities no matter how shitty the opponent but what about you? Just coz you dont like the present government, you cant show some unity as a Malaysian citizen?


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post Sep 17 2019, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(silent_stalker @ Sep 17 2019, 05:17 PM)
And to add in the past, during haze season, i fail to find any comments that protect the administration of that time. All were united kutuk BN for not doing anything. Even BN supporters wasnt stupid enuff to protect BN.

But PH supporters, my god  i cant believe what im reading. Theres actually people who protect PH, even at a time like this?????

Seriously, u guys just went full retard. I mean, full throttle retard here. I underestimated u guys macainess. Im done.
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WRONG. Are you making up your own stories? Whenever the haze happened in the past, the number one target of backlash is aimed squarely at INDONESIA.

Every Malaysian ( even Singapore) condemned Indonesia, suddenly you rope in BN ? since when it was BN's fault?
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post Sep 17 2019, 05:57 PM

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if your logic operates in a way of vindictive reasoning, you really need to reflect on yourself.

Tit for tat logik is not being objective and fair in your approach.

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post Sep 17 2019, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(silent_stalker @ Sep 17 2019, 07:07 PM)
And this is what dap have to say in the past. The same thing what i said.

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/dap-...ct-haze-problem

But u just laugh it off. Now got proof, even DAP said our gov need to do something about it and call on ASEAN to tackle the issue.

But u, i said like that, u just say need invade. I facepalm

Hope u realize what u have become now.

And to top it off, theres actually a haze agreement for asean countries.
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DAP was just being a stupid bitch at the time. lol if Indonesia is being non committal (they still are) then how piang wanna force them to sign?

every year deal with the same issue is coz Jakarta is being adamant of shirking responsibility and play dodgeball, apart from the haze that happens every year, the other yearly event is Indonesia's insistence they are innocent.

oh ya, and signing the agreement is one thing, HONORING IT is another.

ohya and nowhere in the article DAP is blaming the gov during the time, they just want the gov to be more proactive on a transnational haze agreement but i doubt that'll do anything to Jakarta. lol

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post Sep 17 2019, 07:43 PM

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QUOTE(Robin Hood @ Sep 17 2019, 07:38 PM)
Stop entertaining this guy, he wont stop reply to you like a bot, obviously he tried hard to divert this thread from Hadi being a racist cunt to dap fault for not handling haze prob..wtf.
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true tho, thread derailed
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post Sep 17 2019, 07:47 PM

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QUOTE(silent_stalker @ Sep 17 2019, 07:44 PM)
But our current gov didnt even talk about the agreement.

U can just do a simple google on the history of our haze. Many articles call for our gov to do something about it.

And now, u.... Since PH has come to power, just say its not our gov duty.

Seriously
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my point stands. An agreement wont do shit. Oi u forgot? Indonesia never admit to causing any haze problem every year, if never admit then how sign your bodo agreement?πŸ˜‚
case closed.

my last reply on this topic.
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post Sep 17 2019, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(silent_stalker @ Sep 17 2019, 07:49 PM)
Actually i dont see the seriousness of the issue. At a time our country is facing this bad haze, u guys still want to entertain things about race. I seriously dont know where u guys place ur priorities. Say race politics should stop, dont talk about race politics... and yet, u guys more interested about threads regarding race.

The more u guys entertain, the more those politicians like. Just like the BMF movement, u guys are just helping promoting it.
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from haze-racism in a heartbeat! how is that even linked? i kenot brain your thought systems these days broπŸ˜‚

hey since when i raised anything abt race? We are speaking against racist fookers, not promote it.
Keeping silent means giving the stage to the extremists who have dominated the stage for a very long time.

u expect us to keep quiet and shut up? what u expect us to do, sit quietly and hope it all goes away ? and give the stage to extremists to give birth to more snakes?

i think ive been fair, i bash extremists wherever i can find them and not targetting one group alone.

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post Sep 17 2019, 08:12 PM

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QUOTE(silent_stalker @ Sep 17 2019, 08:06 PM)
Bcoz from the start, my point is we should be more concern about the haze rather than what hadi said. Im sure no one here agrees with him. So, whats the point of talking about it. Just to feel good?

Actually no. In politics, reaction is what politicians want. Controversy create reaction. Reaction spread awareness. And thus makes people more aware of the politician existence and his message spreads faster.

U are just helping him. Thats why politicians really likes creating controversy. But altho at times, doing it wrong may backfire, that depends on the politicians wit.

Politicians survive thru crowd. They will die without them.

Remember that.
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Also remember this, perhaps a very important lesson.

What happened is not really important, whats more important is how reality is being perceived.

perception is everything in the game of politics. How can you command the perception of the masses without saying a word?

frequency, prominence and familiarity makes people remember. You cannot create that kind of impact without any spreading the message right? keeping quiet means being forgotten and being drowned by the narrative of others and in tis case, the conservative and extremist.

besides, people on the middle ground have been quiet for far too long. Its time to correct perception of the masses and brighten the darkness.

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post Sep 17 2019, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(silent_stalker @ Sep 17 2019, 08:17 PM)
When u do not talk about it, the message will only be contained in their own circle. But when outsiders talk about it, u just brought the message outside of that circle.
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people are going to talk, and they will talk to other people will talk to other people.

dude. πŸ˜‚ we are living in the information age. U still think information is static? its as fluid as ever! people are gonna share nevertheless, and u have no idea on the rate of penetration

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post Sep 17 2019, 08:35 PM

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QUOTE(silent_stalker @ Sep 17 2019, 08:29 PM)
And im trying to spread the awareness to not be used by politicians. Many people here think they are doing the right thing, but not knowing they are being used by the politicians. Hadi is a seasoned politician. He didnt stay on top for a long time for just being stupid. He probably already calculate his words will bring what kind of reaction. And thats what he want, if not he would say something different.
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then spread the word abt politicians exploiting the masses. Dont keep quiet! lol

keeping quiet is the worst thing u can do. Coz other ppl get to spread their own narrative unchallenged.
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post Sep 17 2019, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(silent_stalker @ Sep 17 2019, 09:22 PM)
Up to u la. Didnt learn ur lesson from the bmf movement.
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maybe for the bmf thing, i agree sort of but when you start applying the same method as a one-size -fit all then thats where i think youre wrong.


u did say you wanted to spread awareness. How can u spread awareness by keeping silent? srsly logik or not?
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post Sep 17 2019, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(silent_stalker @ Sep 17 2019, 09:49 PM)
Im spreading awareness on how not to be used by politicians. Im sure i have said in the past, i have become political advisors to some politicians in the past, 1 method that i always use is create controversy in the speech but the real message is hidden in between. Thats the basics of what politicians do during campaigning. Some daring ones will do some act. Same method is also used to distract from some more bigger issue.

For instance, u guys keep focusing on najib, the one that talks alot and create controversies. But while u guys are distracted with him, zahid silently manage to form a pact with pas, bring money to the party, strengthen his position in the party. All without any obstacles. Just smooth sailing for him. Thanks to u guys. See how u guys got played? I seldom comment on what najib said for that very reason. My eyes are more towards zahid.

To be a smart voter, my advice is that, try to differentiate what is a speech or statement to create a controversy and what is a real statement that the politicians want to say. Learn to read between the lines and also learn when not to read between the lines.

Thats up to u.

Politics is not a straightforward thing. Especially when it comes to seasoned politicians.
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so politicians can pasang their own ppl create controversy, stir up trouble. We shouldnt react? that only works when the majority is educated not to be duped by cheap tactics. But do you overestimate the ability of the masses to be tactful? and to reason with scrutiny?

more often than not, masses are ignorant and moreso if they are not very exposed. They make easy targets, most people buy into something sensational, controversial, and their perceptions will be formed based on how the actors craft the message.

Leaving the stage to only be dominated by these actors and influence others. Are we srsly leaving it all to them? shd educated ppl remain silent and let people buy into the trend outta pure ignorance.

or are u gunna be that guy who tells them that they've been used and exploited by politicians. Make them aware like you said


and come on!! Zahid? being sneaky? lol pas and umno been trying to marry each other is an open secret! theres nothing sneaky about this. I know its going to happen, theyve been trying to play pretend like nobody knows but theyre not fool anyone.

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post Sep 17 2019, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(silent_stalker @ Sep 17 2019, 11:17 PM)
Its actually people like u that normally falls into their trap.

Actually many people in umno is against the pact. It is an open secret, and yet no one talks about it. u notice about that or not? When the deal is done, only then u guys make noise. What use? No one talks about zahid, at all. And now see him how.

U underestimate him too much. He didnt get where he is now without being sneaky. Any politicians that manage to reach the top must have stepped on alot of heads to get there. All those experience is nothing to be looked down at.

Sometimes being silent is the best way to handle things.
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Like history ever remembers those who do nothing. Will doing nothing get you to change things for the better ? or will it make you slip into obscurity and oblivion? never to be heard again?

think about it

if many people in umno were against the pact, why wasnt there rebellion? Why everyone just takes it in the ass? issit coz they prefer being silent and do nothing? actually i agree with you there are people in Umno and BN who disagree with the pact and yet it seems they just go with the flow. lol

I waited for a rebellion in UMNO which never came, so if like u claim they disagree with all Zahid's plan then they are squandering their chance to speak up by being quiet.

at one point, my money's on KJ but too bad hes too chickenshit to do anything.

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