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post Dec 19 2020, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(Jason @ Dec 8 2020, 11:30 PM)
Went to my usual tyre shop. My rears were gone, well worn and one side had damage -- this is not a fault with the tyre, but external damage that can happen to any tyre. My fronts were still good, shoulder wear due to poor alignment previously but not severe. I could continue using it, but I had to change the rear.

Thought about taking Falken FK510 again and just replace the rear pair, but backside itchy and I have been driving more spirited lately. So decided to go for PS4 for all 4 corners.

PS4 costs ~40% more than the FK510 for all 4 corners. Immediately, I noticed that the PS4 is more responsive in the dry, the FK510 is not slow, but the PS4 is just more responsive to steering input. And, on the same road, same tyre pressure, PS4 feels harsher -- I believe this is due to stiffer sidewalls.

Bear in mind I came from P7 RFT -> FK510 -> PS4. The FK510 was a definite improvement from the P7 in all ways and especially NVH because its not a RFT. The PS4 first impression is quicker/more direct steering response relative to the FK510.

Is the PS4 worth 40% more? I don't know, need to drive in the wet to confirm.
But based on dry performance alone, my answer is no, especially if you ferry people using your car, the FK510, despite "less" responsive, is not poor, and its not as stiff as the PS4.

I still think FK510 is a very good tyre for the price. But I wonder how does Sime Tyre Continental MC6 compares to the FK510.
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It is true about steering response, it has this "lag" when you do turning, but easy get used to it.

I came from V105 > FK510 > PS4S, V105 has really sharp response.
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post Jan 9 2021, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(Jason @ Dec 9 2020, 10:33 AM)
Cool. Now I wonder how long the PS4 lasts, and if it lasts longer then it may be worth the premium. Wear tests put it slightly behind FK510.
Probably, according to tire rack the F1SS tread wear is 240 versus 320 on the PS4. No third party test on the wear yet. Of course the rating can't be compared across. I'll most likely go for MC6 after this PS4.
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I feel MC6 is a downgrade when compared to PS4
Have you ever considered Goodyear F1 Asymetric 5?
Seems to be a serious contender to PS4 but price wise might be higher than PS4 nowadays due to limited supply
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post Feb 3 2021, 06:24 PM

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post Feb 3 2021, 06:25 PM

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225/45R19

RM750 per piece all in.

Kam Hua Trading, Glenmarie

Tyre made in week 44, 2020.
newhouseowner
post Feb 5 2021, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(amscouzach57 @ Feb 3 2021, 06:25 PM)
225/45R19

RM750 per piece all in.

Kam Hua Trading, Glenmarie

Tyre made in week 44, 2020.
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I got it all in RM 800 at cheras last year.
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post Feb 7 2021, 02:28 AM

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QUOTE(kkyen @ Aug 17 2020, 07:20 PM)
just get fk510 for 245/40/19 in Setapak ASO, they are very cheap compare with others i asked, 5xx/pcs year made 2020. First impression, steering response is light.
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May i know where is Setapak Aso? Im gonna change to a 2nd set now, your price were good
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post Apr 8 2021, 09:53 AM

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I changed from Goodyear Eagle Ass 3 to FK510

- Goodyear's grip in wet and dry are much better than the FK510 (FK510 aquaplanes a bit here and there, but the Goodyear is very confident in the wet)
- Goodyear's steering feel was much more predictable (FK510 makes my car feels slightly floaty at initial turn in)
- I got 45k km out this tyres, which is great


The only thing good about the FK510 is that it is cheap.

My next tyre will be the PS4 or back to Goodyears.
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post Apr 8 2021, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(jamespaul @ Apr 8 2021, 09:53 AM)
I changed from Goodyear Eagle Ass 3 to FK510

- Goodyear's grip in wet and dry are much better than the FK510 (FK510 aquaplanes a bit here and there, but the Goodyear is very confident in the wet)
- Goodyear's steering feel was much more predictable (FK510 makes my car feels slightly floaty at initial turn in)
- I got 45k km out this tyres, which is great
The only thing good about the FK510 is that it is cheap.

My next tyre will be the PS4 or back to Goodyears.
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Would like to get your feedback if you are interested in trying out Goodyear Eagle F1 Sport.
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post Apr 8 2021, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(jamespaul @ Apr 8 2021, 09:53 AM)
I changed from Goodyear Eagle Ass 3 to FK510

- Goodyear's grip in wet and dry are much better than the FK510 (FK510 aquaplanes a bit here and there, but the Goodyear is very confident in the wet)
- Goodyear's steering feel was much more predictable (FK510 makes my car feels slightly floaty at initial turn in)
- I got 45k km out this tyres, which is great
The only thing good about the FK510 is that it is cheap.

My next tyre will be the PS4 or back to Goodyears.
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Yeah this is consistent with most reviews of FK510, it's like half a step behind the top UHP with slightly softer/better comfort. You tried this on your GLA45 I presume, yes?
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post Apr 10 2021, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(jamespaul @ Apr 8 2021, 09:53 AM)
I changed from Goodyear Eagle Ass 3 to FK510

- Goodyear's grip in wet and dry are much better than the FK510 (FK510 aquaplanes a bit here and there, but the Goodyear is very confident in the wet)
- Goodyear's steering feel was much more predictable (FK510 makes my car feels slightly floaty at initial turn in)
- I got 45k km out this tyres, which is great
The only thing good about the FK510 is that it is cheap.

My next tyre will be the PS4 or back to Goodyears.
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As per tyre review UK, fk510 win PS4 in wet slightly, if your Goodyear better than fk510 in wet, then you no need try PS4.
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post Apr 10 2021, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(newhouseowner @ Apr 10 2021, 11:29 AM)
As per tyre review UK, fk510 win PS4 in wet slightly, if your Goodyear better than fk510 in wet, then you no need try PS4.
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I think it may be because FK510 feels less adept in the wet when it is near end of life. At least that’s my experience.

I don’t think PS4 is any more amazing than FK510 in the wet. My impressions still hold, the PS4 is sharper in steering response than the FK510, and have a better feel of the road, more direct.

That being said, I don’t think it’s worth the premium. But let’s see how many KMs I can do on the PS4. Then will know if the FK510 is the true value king.
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post Apr 10 2021, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(Jason @ Apr 10 2021, 01:47 PM)
I think it may be because FK510 feels less adept in the wet when it is near end of life. At least that’s my experience.

I don’t think PS4 is any more amazing than FK510 in the wet. My impressions still hold, the PS4 is sharper in steering response than the FK510, and have a better feel of the road, more direct.

That being said, I don’t think it’s worth the premium. But let’s see how many KMs I can do on the PS4. Then will know if the FK510 is the true value king.
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PS4 shine over fk510 in dry which I agreed. It kinda reminded me of past PS4 that already reached the tread wear indicator and still grip hard without compromise when downhill of genting. It really fun.

I'll do the same thing when next set change to PS4, see how much RM per km, then really know which is value in long run.
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QUOTE(newhouseowner @ Apr 10 2021, 11:29 AM)
As per tyre review UK, fk510 win PS4 in wet slightly, if your Goodyear better than fk510 in wet, then you no need try PS4.
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Which test was it?
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post Apr 10 2021, 06:18 PM

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QUOTE(Jason @ Apr 10 2021, 01:47 PM)
I think it may be because FK510 feels less adept in the wet when it is near end of life. At least that’s my experience.

I don’t think PS4 is any more amazing than FK510 in the wet. My impressions still hold, the PS4 is sharper in steering response than the FK510, and have a better feel of the road, more direct.

That being said, I don’t think it’s worth the premium. But let’s see how many KMs I can do on the PS4. Then will know if the FK510 is the true value king.
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How many KM you got from the fk510?
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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Apr 10 2021, 06:18 PM)
How many KM you got from the fk510?
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~33k average. Reason being I swapped the fronts first, then the rear. It still had some life to it when I changed, but one of the tyres were damaged so I just changed all four.
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post Apr 11 2021, 02:18 AM

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Falken Azenis FK510 recently won the 2021 ADAC summer test.

Definitely worth having a look.

Check out the link below

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post Apr 11 2021, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(Jason @ Apr 10 2021, 11:46 PM)
~33k average. Reason being I swapped the fronts first, then the rear. It still had some life to it when I changed, but one of the tyres were damaged so I just changed all four.
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Still got another 10-15k km I think.

QUOTE(epjx31 @ Apr 11 2021, 02:18 AM)
Falken Azenis FK510 recently won the 2021 ADAC summer test.

Definitely worth having a look.

Check out the link below

LINK
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Not quite a good comparison test cuz mixed up between touring and UHP. Tyrereviews test is better.
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post Apr 12 2021, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(HalseyFrangipane @ Apr 8 2021, 02:53 PM)
Would like to get your feedback if you are interested in trying out Goodyear Eagle F1 Sport.
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I think I am leaning towards, Asymmetric 5 or PS4.

For now.
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post Apr 12 2021, 10:11 AM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Apr 8 2021, 06:46 PM)
Yeah this is consistent with most reviews of FK510, it's like half a step behind the top UHP with slightly softer/better comfort. You tried this on your GLA45 I presume, yes?
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Yes.

You can definitely tell that its a poorer tyre.

More understeer, less limit grip

Noise wise, Goodyears were quieter, a MUCH superior tyre


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post Apr 12 2021, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Apr 10 2021, 06:14 PM)
Which test was it?
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You can find it on their website, not the latest though, if I not mistaken, somewhere around 2019 or 2020.

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