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post Sep 13 2019, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(arza04 @ Sep 11 2019, 11:53 PM)
My 13 year old wira I replaced the whole suspension set(spring, absorber, arm, bushing, everything)...spent like rm2k. Oh and engine mount too rm500 original.

I diy basic audio system. China double din player, 4 branded speakers, subwoofer and amps..spent like 1.5k

Buy one roll sound proofing material. Diy soundproof door panel, bonnet, floor and roof. Did not do firewall area because i scared to remove the dashboard

Interior still good because i really take care of it, no refurbishing done. If u see it u will not believe the interior is 13 years old haha
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Bow to master* u must be really good at diy to be able to do most of it on ur own.
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post Sep 13 2019, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(System Error Message @ Sep 12 2019, 12:16 AM)
For these things you do have to upgrade the electrical system and interior.

My suggestions are beefier motor (some cars can use dual purpose motor which is also starter that can output higher amps and is beefier so last longer), then add more 12/24V sockets. Accessorise a little, if you have the arm rest at the back, see about adding storage, socket there, even cupholders.

In addition to that you can get decent modulated sine wave plugs that let you plug regular AC powered devices into them with only 2 things to worry about, amps (starter and wiring) and what devices you can use. Only AC motors cant be plugged into them and some devices that like continous waves but electronic devices work fine. Wiring is very important too for the amps even for additional DC sockets.

You can upgrade the chairs. In some cars the chairs are removable so can get newer lighter chairs, even ones with storage, tray or even upgrade to leather if you use fabric. Rear chairs can consider if can add storage. Some cars have chairs that can be folded to reveal storage, or have storage bins under.

Definitely get your car tinted so it wont be hot.

Additional DC sockets let you plug in stuff, and also extra wiring to install more things. I would put the android head unit as optional but i would strongly suggest a reverse camera with wireless screen (scotty kilmer has a good recommendation on specific modal), as to me ICE is pointless, as i got my own tablet and such, so might as well just have in car adapters for laptops and USB ports to charge phone and tablets, even power dashcam, rear camera screen, and interior mounts for them.

to me having an android unit as ICE is pointless since as you drive you arent supposed to be looking at the screen but the road. Its only worth if you can tweak settings in your car (which can be a thing if you connect to ODB port to show live data like fuel consumption, and sensors like speed in a cool way you like), but otherwise its pointless even for passenger as at the back it doesnt help much and you arent supposed to operate it either.

If you have storage that isnt part of your boot, you can add a small fridge that can be powered by DC, but that just depends on your budget, i wouldnt say its expensive if you can fit an off the shelf tiny fridge but also depends on your needs.

Lastly if your car doesnt have, a full sized spare tyre.
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Damn man. I cant brain ur mod related to the electrical stuff. I dont even know where to start or get an idea of it. But it sounds useful since everything need power now
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post Sep 13 2019, 12:39 AM

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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Sep 12 2019, 02:38 PM)
1) dashcam should be top of your list, most useful among everything else
2) replace all door seals
3) get a better tyre if you don't have one
4) service alternator and starter motor
5) replace coil packs
6) full interior and cushion wash
7) change to higher quality floor mats
8) complete air cond servicing

Just be wary of speaker upgrades, could be a deep rabbit hole. Take note of the power requirements, as you may need to upgrade your alternator and a good rewiring job.
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Hhhmm no 2, 4 and 6 sounds good especially no 4. Thanks for the suggestion
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post Sep 13 2019, 01:34 AM

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....what car is it?
arza04
post Sep 13 2019, 04:39 AM

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QUOTE(Kitty_catts @ Sep 13 2019, 12:34 AM)
Bow to master* u must be really good at diy to be able to do most of it on ur own.
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Youtube and facebook car group helps a lot rclxms.gif
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post Sep 13 2019, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(Kitty_catts @ Sep 13 2019, 12:36 AM)
Damn man. I cant brain ur mod related to the electrical stuff. I dont even know where to start or get an idea of it. But it sounds useful since everything need power now
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Always second guess and reverify on your own what this fellor writes. In other topics, his/her post is another craptologist in the making.

QUOTE(Kitty_catts @ Sep 13 2019, 12:39 AM)
Hhhmm  no 2, 4 and 6 sounds good especially no 4. Thanks for the suggestion
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You're welcome.

Another thing to add is to check the body frame and exhaust for rust. I guess you can get that FOC when you do regular service, just ask the technician that layan you to jack up the car and check through.
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post Sep 15 2019, 02:04 AM

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QUOTE(Kitty_catts @ Sep 11 2019, 08:06 PM)
Do u know how much is the cost for insulation esp the wheel arc?
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it is about RM400 for wheel arc insulation.

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post Sep 15 2019, 12:37 PM

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Add a sofa please.
While you are at it, let's throw in a double kitchen sink, an induction cooker and a microwave oven.

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post Yesterday, 07:36 PM

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QUOTE(Kitty_catts @ Sep 13 2019, 12:36 AM)
Damn man. I cant brain ur mod related to the electrical stuff. I dont even know where to start or get an idea of it. But it sounds useful since everything need power now
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Examples https://www.lazada.com.my/products/200w-car...ZnEWyL&search=1
https://www.lazada.com.my/products/best-sal...ZnEWyL&search=1

Anything above 300W cant be plugged into the 12V DC socket. and if you want to add more sockets and support more watts, need to add new wires so you dont overload existing ones from branching off.

Some universal laptop PSUs also include 12V DC car plugs too.

First start with your car's inverter, all inverters have a max power output rating. It produces power to charge the battery and power the whole car, and the max rating is usually not for sustained use, so i would put sustained use at 1/4 the max rating.

So in that 1/4 rating you must fit
- max watts to power car
- 300W for already installed dc socket
- all the car's electricals and computers (things like lights, wipers,etc)
- engine cooling
- additional items you want to add and power

then add wiring to add additional slots. Very important that wiring is water tight.
You can run more cables, so you can add slots. It will require modifying things like drilling through interior covers and such but you'd be amazed at just how much space cars actually have. Some newer cars have seats with compartments in them as well as if you look at how big a seat actually is, can fit quite a bit. Some seats like in quite a few cars such as the higher spec ford ranger (not sure if they have this option in malaysia) come with inverters with the plugs on the seats as well so rear passenger can actually plug a laptop in and do work, maybe even a tray.
hope it helps.
QUOTE(mushigen @ Sep 15 2019, 12:37 PM)
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Add a sofa please.
While you are at it, let's throw in a double kitchen sink, an induction cooker and a microwave oven.
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Sofa, kitchen sink, bar, Can even extend.
There are much older episodes where they add all this to normal cars for fun, and in top gear making a car for old people too including all furniture, all in a hatchback. No time to find the clips.
In 1 grand tour episode they modified a large 2nd hand sedan to be very much like a home, includes a fireplace too.
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post Yesterday, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(System Error Message @ Sep 16 2019, 07:36 PM)
Examples https://www.lazada.com.my/products/200w-car...ZnEWyL&search=1
https://www.lazada.com.my/products/best-sal...ZnEWyL&search=1

Anything above 300W cant be plugged into the 12V DC socket. and if you want to add more sockets and support more watts, need to add new wires so you dont overload existing ones from branching off.

Some universal laptop PSUs also include 12V DC car plugs too.

First start with your car's inverter, all inverters have a max power output rating. It produces power to charge the battery and power the whole car, and the max rating is usually not for sustained use, so i would put sustained use at 1/4 the max rating.

So in that 1/4 rating you must fit
- max watts to power car
- 300W for already installed dc socket
- all the car's electricals and computers (things like lights, wipers,etc)
- engine cooling
- additional items you want to add and power

then add wiring to add additional slots. Very important that wiring is water tight.
You can run more cables, so you can add slots. It will require modifying things like drilling through interior covers and such but you'd be amazed at just how much space cars actually have. Some newer cars have seats with compartments in them as well as if you look at how big a seat actually is, can fit quite a bit. Some seats like in quite a few cars such as the higher spec ford ranger (not sure if they have this option in malaysia) come with inverters with the plugs on the seats as well so rear passenger can actually plug a laptop in and do work, maybe even a tray.
hope it helps.


Sofa, kitchen sink, bar, Can even extend.
There are much older episodes where they add all this to normal cars for fun, and in top gear making a car for old people too including all furniture, all in a hatchback. No time to find the clips.
In 1 grand tour episode they modified a large 2nd hand sedan to be very much like a home, includes a fireplace too.
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I reckon it is much, much more convenient to buy power bank and additional battery pack for laptop and other electrical gadgets. Cost less and safer too without having to worry short circuit and risk of fire.

In my opinion, getting old car comfortable (aircond, quality window tint, soundproofing, sound system) and pleasure to drive (engine upgrade with brake upgrade, suspension, chasis bar, lighter rim and tyres) are both what to strive for.

My motto is "Clean car is a happy car". Sometimes polish and wax, change of wipers, carpet deep clean and change car seat cover can do wonders.

This post has been edited by minoru89: Yesterday, 09:29 PM
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post Yesterday, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(minoru89 @ Sep 16 2019, 09:25 PM)
I reckon it is much, much more convenient to buy power bank and additional battery pack for laptop and other electrical gadgets. Cost less and safer too without having to worry short circuit and risk of fire.

In my opinion, getting old car comfortable (aircond, quality window tint, soundproofing, sound system) and pleasure to drive (engine upgrade with brake upgrade, suspension, chasis bar, lighter rim and tyres) are both what to strive for.

My motto is "Clean car is a happy car". Sometimes polish and wax, change of wipers, carpet deep clean and change car seat cover can do wonders.
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ofcourse, just saying the other things one can upgrade other than those.
Also power banks or lithiums in general have the tendency to expand/catch fire, so power banks arent exactly safe either. To think of a use case for practicality, lets say you went on a long road trip or even on holiday, so those electricals can come in handy, could be cheaper than getting a hotel with everything or when you are at the side of the road and need to do something. power banks cant supply a laptop and the ones that can cost more than what i listed for a built in inverter sufficient to provide 100W AC.

plus some fun like why not bake something while going downhill on a long pass, used the engine to maintain your speed and send the power to an oven or something.
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post Yesterday, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(System Error Message @ Sep 16 2019, 10:42 PM)
ofcourse, just saying the other things one can upgrade other than those.
Also power banks or lithiums in general have the tendency to expand/catch fire, so power banks arent exactly safe either. To think of a use case for practicality, lets say you went on a long road trip or even on holiday, so those electricals can come in handy, could be cheaper than getting a hotel with everything or when you are at the side of the road and need to do something. power banks cant supply a laptop and the ones that can cost more than what i listed for a built in inverter sufficient to provide 100W AC.

Why would anyone use powerbank to charge a laptop? I said buy another laptop battery, most laptop comes with detachable battery. Buying battery and power bank is better because it can be used in flight, classroom, client office ir somewhere else


plus some fun like why not bake something while going downhill on a long pass, used the engine to maintain your speed and send the power to an oven or something.
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Oven in car? I find you are either sarcastic or a moron when you suggesting this.

Powering something using car power supply is never a good idea as car electrical power fluctuates and can damage the gadgets in the long run. And all those "useful" laptop charging scenario doesnt make any sense as I did not see it being done in real world. A driver cannot drive and do assignment on laptop at the same time. And one certainly cannot bake while zipping through the winding roads at changing traffic condition.


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