Hi guys, planning to buy handsome new ride sedan. (Having Civic as top followed by new Corolla and Mazda 3)

Eye-ing for this pretty Civic FC since 2016 (when I was just an Uni undergraduate) and now comes the FL 2019.

Joined FC fb group and found out alot of common issues for current model. Please share your thoughts all Civician. Pros and Cons from you is wayyyy highly appreciated

Budget wise would be around for 120k new / 85k 2nd-hand. Turbo is optional but found out advices to get it but nasty for its maintenance.

Thanks in advanced.



This post has been edited by kwk_1995: Sep 10 2019, 02:55 PM

Actually with turbo all you have to do is get the car serviced and engine oil changed before the next sticker time/distance, not when you reach it, and you need to know some basic rules like drive lightly for at least a few minutes before you can even consider pushing it, and let the car idle for a few minutes too after a stressful drive. Turbo also makes driving characteristics very different. Its not a maintenance nightmare if you know how to take care of it.

I'd also recommend the manual over auto, as honda isnt known to have good autos, but are well known to have good manual.

i suggest the used over new, can even get turbo but you must check the service record to make sure it has been religiously serviced, and that no expanse was spared (like some workshops may rip off customer and only change oil at twice the interval but charge and list it), so check properly. People also tend to drive the civics harder so you should check for that when buying used.

If the used car has a manual transmission can definitely consider, otherwise get new. Still 4 years for a 1/3 drop in price is small.

With a turbo you dont need a bigger engine, so you save in both fuel and tax, but you just need to know how to drive and take care of it, including the FC when using the turbo with the standard RON 95.

Spare no expense in judging the state of the used car as used cars in malaysia are way too pricey for what is offered and its known that people tend to drive civics hard (one of the highest accident cars in US).

Toyota corolla is a decent choice, supposedly has good customer service, and is faster than the VW golf and is one of jeremy clarkson's most hated cars because its that good. Might not be your taste but good numbers all around.

Mazda 3 is a nice car to drive/own too, i suggest driving all 3 and see which one you like. All 3 choices are decent. The mazda 3 is usually a decent entry level car and should be cheaper than the civic if you dont need a lot of performance.

Old Top gear, jeremy clarkson cant figure out why people buy it and he hates it because its that good lol


This post has been edited by System Error Message: Sep 10 2019, 12:33 AM

wrong.

1. Go test all proposed models in the showroom. You'd not want to leave mazda after that

2. For every year of an older used car you get, you save 10-20%. Buy smart, think that you're a young graduate with a fresh start and do not wanna burn too much on depreciation.


3. Cars between 3-5years are generally maintenance free. Anything between 1-3years isnt maintenance free. Might as well let the previous owner waste his time at the SC for you


Enjoy!

either way. every car has its perks and whatnot.
Big reasons why civic outnumbered altis on the road and not many mazdas on the road either. Some find one better than the other in terms of looks, driveability etc.

You test all, you judge. Dont let others make the choice for you. Their condom preference might not fit your brother.

I provided video proof of toyota with 1.6L engine beating vw with 2L engine, ofcourse you are welcome to show me evidence otherwise.

hahaha cerita zaman bila ni...

that's why dont use internet explorer..hahahaha

Honda Civic FC where got manual in Malaysia , all is CVT lah

You want manual Civic? Option 1 is Type R (FD2R, FK8R etc.), 8th gen FD manual converts, or 20yrs old Civic EJ

"The mazda 3 is usually a decent entry level car and should be cheaper than the civic if you dont need a lot of performance." i doubt this guy every statement.

Mazda3 not expensive like fark meh after the CKD assembly being ended, now all CBU

Dont know which fantasy world he live in got manual non-Type R Civic and Mazda3 being cheap

Having a few friends of mine wanna sell their sweet Civic due to "boredom" after 2-3 years for 1.8s. But couldn't agree more as its known that people tend to drive civic hard especially current model.
They have a quote stated that "if you owned a civic without modification, better push ur civic into the sea"

Dont bother. As a ex civic FC 1.5 TCP owner

If you want to be stressfree without any problems. Go get the new mazda 3 CBU

Back then i thought civic a popular vehicle shouldnt give me problems but i was so wrong and regret. So far after getting rid of it and notice malaysia made civics are problematic

If you wonder why are there so many used civics on the market ( FC ) . They sold it the same reasons i have
The problems are even worse than my old VW gti

Dont complain about the price of a fully imported japan mazda 3. For 160k ( top spec ) it is consider a bargain and it is way better than bmw 118i in comparison except for the engine power since it is not a turbo.

Japan mazda 3 vs a CKD mazda 3 have huge differences from NvH , Speaker system , Tech equipment and even the paint job is better. The Soul red color in mazda malaysia have been causing a uproar because of the method malaysia mazda use and it is much thinner layer compare to japan

Also the panel quality is different. Malaysia CKD units uses the same cheaper way for their vehicles

This post has been edited by Eternalgl0ry: Sep 10 2019, 10:54 AM

Is this the same person from your siggie? hahaha

TS, wait until facelift released, then only decide.

Wut? you sold your Civic already?

I thought I read your comments in Civic club tered before.

Never thought that you sold it already.

Now you drive what car?

Civic is a cool car, good choice.

I used to hang with out singapre civic club.

So i know the differences between a malaysia made civic and singpapore civic. From what i can understand singapore civics are imported from thailand

That was 1-2 years ago. I do not know whether they still get it from thailand

When i sat down and drive a singapore civic. I already notice the difference even the panel quality is better

It is not that BIG difference but it is very obvious and noticeable. From the insulation sheets beneath the fabric floors to door panels and even the plastic quality is different. The fitment is much better from inside to outside

Malaysia honda units tend to have complains with misalignment and inaccurate car body panels.

Also the engine area in the singpaore unit was better. Back then most civic fc owners in malaysia encounter a awkward noise during second startup of the day. The only way to fix it completely is to replace it

Not all service centers in malaysia will allow that. As far i know back then out of so many members in the malaysia civic x group. Only one able to get it replace ( VIP customer identified later on ) or maybe a direct friendship with the directors. Because this process will take months to approve

There is no way a SC will just replace a part just a customer request. I went SC dozens of time to fix this crap and always say no problem

My civic fc was not cheap too. If i recalled it is around the 130k price range
After getting rid of it . Omg that feels of freedom

I only mentioned like 2-3 problems in this thread. There are more but i do not want to start a argument with civic fans


This post has been edited by Eternalgl0ry: Sep 10 2019, 11:19 AM

Pattern same. Probably.

All I'm thinking is whether TS can afford the ownership cost.

You've just started working for 3 years (if graduated in 2016).

You don't wanna be part of the statistics of young people getting counseling from AKPK