Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+

 Tenant giving problem, How to deal with unreasonable tenant?

views
     
SUSshortone146
post Jun 29 2020, 12:02 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
132 posts

Joined: Jan 2020
QUOTE(whoweare @ Sep 8 2019, 01:23 PM)
I have this tenant with a year contract. He wanted to move out but there is still 3 months contract remaining. To not forfeit the deposit (2 months), he stopped payment rental in the 3rd last month saying he want it to be offset from deposit.

Conversation turns bad and he is now saying not gonna paid anymore. What options do I have? My agent said u can disconnect water and electricity supply. Is that legal? Should I make a police report too before doing so?

I have few tenants before but never encounter such bad, unreasonable one. I suspect he is having financial issue now since he is moving to another place with deposit paid.
*
I know it's a long while but then.

Why dun you arrange to view his room at that time or something.

Just say that since he has not paid for the deposit, then better to view the room first or something. i am sure he will not mind.

That's the thing. Why you cannot make things easier for others. I really do not know.

But then most landlords are really like you. After all, it's their opportunity to be the boss.

People like you need psychiatric evaluation. Seriously.
SUSshortone146
post Jun 29 2020, 12:23 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
132 posts

Joined: Jan 2020
QUOTE(Zwean @ Jun 29 2020, 12:09 AM)
You don't see the problem do you?
*
Actually I do.
The issue is that the tennant requested for an early release(Not so early actually considering that it's just 1 month before the contract expire) and requested to use the deposit to offset the rental.

But then, instead of trying to settle things amicably by viewing the property and maybe letting the tennant off through good will, the owner has the intention of making the tennant suffer.

What the landlord should do is settle things amicably. Just request viewing the property and if it's well kept then maybe let the tennant go out of good will.

The other issue is probably the fact that it's not easy to find a replacement within a short period of time. Actually, I am sure that's not a major issue as the contract is going to expire soon anyway and the tennant has actually informed the landlord.

But then there is no denying that this landlord is being an asshole like what most landlords are.
SUSshortone146
post Jun 29 2020, 01:30 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
132 posts

Joined: Jan 2020
QUOTE(Zwean @ Jun 29 2020, 12:32 AM)
It’s market practice to claim the deposit back after the tenancy is over. (No offsetting rental)

The tenant likely agreed to it when they signed the tenancy.

It’s a business transaction not a charity.
*
Well. Sometimes it does pay to be good.

You dunno when something may happen to you.

But then I doubt you get it.
SUSshortone146
post Jun 29 2020, 03:17 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
132 posts

Joined: Jan 2020
QUOTE(waghyu @ Jun 29 2020, 01:35 AM)
Police? Any crime take place?

Yes he can offset 2 months deposit vs deposit paid, provided he ensure returning the premise in satisfactory condition, with usual wear and tear. You still have right to claim all repair damages.
*
Problem is, this landlord is most likely a trouble maker like most out there.

Just because they hold people's deposit, they seem to think that they are suddenly untouchable.

There really should be a way whereby legally, the landlord is held accountable for wrongly not returning deposits to the tennants.

If he was a reasonable guy, he would not have written what he has written.
SUSshortone146
post Jun 29 2020, 03:42 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
132 posts

Joined: Jan 2020
QUOTE(GreyMocha @ Jun 29 2020, 03:31 AM)
Yeah some landlords damn terrible.

I met one forced my dad buy his freaking old washing machine

Ask my dad get ppl cut the grass Or he will deduct 100 from deposit when the contract is over

Don’t know why my dad agree to it
*
Most people do not read the contract expecting the land lord to be reasonable

Contract does not help much anyway. Unless you are willing to go through the trouble of using the legal route.

As mentioned, the landlord has the power since he holds your deposit and they abuse it 99% of the time.

Funny that it always never seem that the landlord is grateful for the tennant for giving them rent.

But then most landlord will use the "worst" case scenario to defend themselves. You know those kind of scenarios where tennants actually purposefully destroy their property.

Most tennant just want peace. They will not purposefully destroy the property. Of course landlord can make time to inspect the property once in a while.

But then most of them really are psychopaths.
SUSshortone146
post Jun 29 2020, 08:51 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
132 posts

Joined: Jan 2020
QUOTE(Zwean @ Jun 29 2020, 08:26 AM)
It seems to me that you have personally experienced an unfortunate incident whereby the landlord did not return you the deposit.

Like I have mentioned before, it is a business transaction, owners and tenants should be professional about it.

Expectations were not set properly by both parties. (Could be the negligence of the agent be trying to reduce friction during negotiation).

Trust me when I say that it protects you and the owner's interests if things go wrong, and things CAN and WILL go wrong. (But I doubt you get it? hehe) To all landlords here, when renting your property out.

Please take the time, sit down and go through the agreement with the tenant (this includes setting expectations and letting them know in advance that the deposit can not be used to offset rent) amongst other matters.
*
And you really think you are going to fight the landlord in court if he decides not to return the deposit to you for some made up reason.


SUSshortone146
post Jun 29 2020, 10:46 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
132 posts

Joined: Jan 2020
QUOTE(mini orchard @ Jun 29 2020, 10:00 AM)
Am wondering why once awhile, there will be a psychopath forumer appearing and giving his 2 cents kopitiam opinion.
*
You sound pretty sick really.

Must be one of those psychopath failures who thinks that he can bully someone just because someone is renting from him.
SUSshortone146
post Jun 29 2020, 11:19 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
132 posts

Joined: Jan 2020
QUOTE(mini orchard @ Jun 29 2020, 11:00 AM)
I have 2 likes ... you ?

Your name ..short short or sort sort ... whatever.

You can argue till cow comes home .. to label landlord as psychopath is childish !

You hit the wrong forumer, he can nuke in kopitiam ...so many cases.
*
Wow. You should get a noble prize because of your 2 likes right?
SUSshortone146
post Jun 29 2020, 11:20 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
132 posts

Joined: Jan 2020
QUOTE(Zwean @ Jun 29 2020, 11:00 AM)
There are plenty of nightmare stories out there of landlords who do allow offsetting of rent.

It’s spelled out properly in the tenancy agreement and is agreed by both parties.

Some just want to take advantage of the landlord’s generosity.

Says a lot about the person.
*
Yeah yeah.

Landlords are generous.

I must be living in another planet.

SUSshortone146
post Jun 29 2020, 11:28 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
132 posts

Joined: Jan 2020
QUOTE(Zwean @ Jun 29 2020, 11:22 AM)
Was it agreed, black and white in the tenancy agreement?

If yes, no point bitching on forums.

Just buy your own house.
*
See, you contradict yourself as per usual.
SUSshortone146
post Jun 29 2020, 11:29 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
132 posts

Joined: Jan 2020
QUOTE(Zwean @ Jun 29 2020, 11:22 AM)
Was it agreed, black and white in the tenancy agreement?

If yes, no point bitching on forums.

Just buy your own house.
*
You and mini orchid must be the same person.

Guess it proves how mean land lords generally are.
SUSshortone146
post Jun 29 2020, 11:33 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
132 posts

Joined: Jan 2020
QUOTE(flight @ Jun 29 2020, 11:31 AM)
When u say high possibility. Out of say 5 times u rent a place, how many landlords dont return ur deposit?
*
Trick qtn.
Actually all 5 return my deposit. But not everything.

But then there is always a fear that they will not return the deposit.

After all, they know that the process of going to court will be a hassle most of the time.

They always find something to deduct from.

This post has been edited by shortone146: Jun 29 2020, 11:34 AM
SUSshortone146
post Jun 29 2020, 11:47 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
132 posts

Joined: Jan 2020
QUOTE(flight @ Jun 29 2020, 11:36 AM)
Ei wtf man. All return ur deposit means this shit is rare la. So what r u talking about landlord always bad. Where u pluck the figures from.

My personal expeeience is the tenant is quite shit. Maybe because is medium cost condo, also i have some troublemakers following me regularly causing problems.
*
As I said not everything.

They always find an excuse to deduct something from me.

It's always a nerve wrecking experience because normally they pay me after I give them the keys and the thing is, they can always run away after that.

Anyway. I always try to political with Landlords because I know they can always choose not to pay me back my rental over some reason.

Also, the truth is, most landlords can actually be threatening to the tenants and the tenants has no choice but to say yes even if it's not fair because the deposit is with them. You see, that's the thing. Land lord knows that most tenants will not destroy the property to get back at them because tenants in general still want their deposit back unless those tenants are nuts in their head. It makes no sense for the tenant to destroy the property to get back at the landlord. And they know that they can withhold their deposit if say the tenant does not kow tow to the landlord. Most landlord knows that tenants normally return the property in almost perfect condition but yet the landlord always finds ways and means to deduct the deposit. So the tenant must always be nice to the landlord so that the landlord can be merciful and return most of the deposit to the tenant.

It's a well known fact.

This post has been edited by shortone146: Jun 29 2020, 11:57 AM
SUSshortone146
post Jun 29 2020, 11:58 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
132 posts

Joined: Jan 2020
QUOTE(mini orchard @ Jun 29 2020, 11:53 AM)
Concede defeat.

Your arguments has no basis for further discussions.

Follow my twin brother said ...  stop wasting your time here and buy own house.
*
Continue being sick man.
SUSshortone146
post Jun 29 2020, 12:03 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
132 posts

Joined: Jan 2020
QUOTE(flight @ Jun 29 2020, 11:51 AM)
Sounds like ur being petty. Lol
*
See. You prove my point.

It's ok for the landlord to just randomly deduct from the deposit just because he's not happy.

Anyway. Most of you probably know you are rascals in heart. But it's ok.

See. QED.

This post has been edited by shortone146: Jun 29 2020, 12:04 PM

 

Change to:
| Lo-Fi Version
0.0194sec    0.66    6 queries    GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 9th December 2025 - 06:01 AM