Anyone know how to open a Hong Kong bank account or a stock brokerage account with a Hong Kong bank?
Hong Kong Exchange & HK Stocks, Per title post-Extradition Bill W/drawal
Hong Kong Exchange & HK Stocks, Per title post-Extradition Bill W/drawal
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Jan 27 2022, 01:59 PM
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Anyone know how to open a Hong Kong bank account or a stock brokerage account with a Hong Kong bank?
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Jan 28 2022, 04:28 PM
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QUOTE(TOS @ Jan 27 2022, 02:11 PM) For HK bank account, you need to be a HK resident to open it (work here or study here). Isn't a brokerage account with HK bank more secure? Is there a HK based IBKR account?Same for HK brokerage account with HK bank. You are better off with non-bank brokers and even them mainly cater to day traders and charge very high fees for HK markets. There is Moomoo (Futu HK) which is popular here however, but you can access it via Futu SG. |
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Jan 28 2022, 05:08 PM
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QUOTE(TOS @ Jan 28 2022, 04:43 PM) Hmm maybe you are new to IBKR. There is only one IBKR, you can open different account types like individual account, join account etc. The account is based in one location depending on where you open it. If you open it originally in Malaysia, then it's based in the US. If you transfer in from TradeStation Global, then it's based in the UK. I see. So there is no way to reduce the political risk? There may be risk of using a US broker to hold HK share. Firstly, the delist of Chinese ADR. Secondly, they can outlaw the US broker from holding Chinese shares. Only a really independent local stock broker may be out of reach of the US sanctions. Just try to avoid being the cannon fodder in the fight between the 2 super powers.In any case, if you have an individual account with IBKR, you can buy securities from all over the world. So you can buy HK shares/bonds/ETFs etc. from your Malaysia IBKR account. You don't need to open "HK" IBKR account. You can't do that since you are not based in HK anyway, no HK address, no HK bank account, no stay permit/visa etc. (I presume you are not in HK.) As for your first question. whether a broker is safe depends on a lot of factors. The execution of the broker, the profitability of the broker (margins), balance sheet, cash flows, business model, regulations, market share etc. Banks can fail in crisis, let alone brokers. If the broker is listed, have a look at the financial statements to have a sense of the broker's financial conditions before you decide to open an account. Look for past history of incidents/litigations if available (even IBKR is not spared from them). That way, you can tell if one broker is a "safer" choice than the others. So, it does mean that attaching to one bank makes the brokerage account safer. More often than not, banks provide such service to complement their business "ecosystem" and make money within their ecosystem. So they have high charges for trading securities than stand-alone brokers like IBKR. IBKR US has a SiPC membership which guarantee up to USD500k asset protection but it is not clear if it only covers US assets since SiPC is an american organization. On the other hand, HK based stock broker has a clear protection of HKD500k asset should there be any failure on the stock broker. |
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Feb 10 2022, 04:38 PM
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QUOTE(TOS @ Jan 28 2022, 06:19 PM) I am no expert in political and legislative stuff. If you need a Chinese-based broker, I don't think there is any option for you since you are not a HK/Chinese resident. You will have to fork out more money to buy via local brokers and local banks then. Futu and Tiger are not for you, they are listed brokers in the US itself. If you are HNWI, then private banks will sort things out for you. I found Futu SG able to open account. Their Hong Kong account commission is only 0.03% much better than IBKR 0.08%.500k USD includes all US listed shares whether they are of Chinese origin or not. You can still strike a balance by buying Chinese/HK equities via local brokers and invest in the rest of the world via IBKR/Futu/Tiger/Saxo/POEMS/FSM etc. if you like. But political-wise, I don't think the decoupling will happen to that extent. At most, the delisted shares will be relisted elsewhere or privatized. You will still get your money back provided no corporate frauds like Luckin's Coffee case occur. They don't have custody fee and dividend collection fee compared to 0.5% for most Hong Kong brokers. Their client assets are segregated so no commingling. I think it is a viable broker for long term investor. Only downside is that many fees are hiked with a Singapore GST of 7% and soon to be 9%. |
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May 26 2022, 09:16 PM
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QUOTE(TOS @ May 26 2022, 07:57 PM) Alibaba earnings released today If remember correctly, 1/3 of Ant Financial stake was taken by the government. I think the reason for the dividend distribution is that government need money now...https://www.alibabagroup.com/en/ir/earnings (webcast can be accesed from this link too) HKEX filing: https://doc.irasia.com/listco/hk/alibabagro...al/2022/res.pdf Press release: https://www.alibabagroup.com/en/news/press_pdf/p220526.pdf Presentation slides: https://www.alibabagroup.com/en/ir/presenta...s/pre220526.pdf Ant Financial paid dividends for the first time too. Based on the 3.94 billion RMB Baba received, the total payout from Ant to all shareholders is estimated to be close to 12 bliion RMB. https://finance.mingpao.com/fin/instantf/20...%ba%ba%e5%b9%a3 |
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