seriously ppl, u noe those T3, Stuff, techno gadgets magazine..all recommend IPODS..hmmmph..

tho no doubt they sounded good, but not excellent if comapred with other competitors..

Samsung player really produce great sound quality, I would say better than Ipods..tho i would say ipod sounded a bit natural, while samsung a bit enhanced.

Meizu player got lotsa good ratings, looking forward to compare it with Iriver..

Creative players are also good, good but not impressive yet

Sony artificial sounding as typical with sony products..have n tested the recent models tho..

n lastly, Iriver is still the most natural best sounding with good internal amp, IMHO ...no doubt about it, cant find any players that can beat it or at least match it..

perhaps cowon or archos..(never heard before, wonder where can test it..rare items)