HANOI: The government has the budget for the Free Breakfast Programme to be implemented in all primary schools next year, says Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad.

The Prime Minister said the government could use the consolidated fund from the various ministries and agencies to implement the programme to benefit pupils in government and government-aided primary schools.

Asked whether the government would use part of the soda tax revenue to fund the programme, Dr Mahathir said all proposals would be looked into.

“All taxes collected will be distributed to the ministries and agencies according to need. If there is a need for an additional allocation, we will consider. If we can afford it, we will provide it.

“But we must remember that the previous government left behind much debt and the present government has to repay it,” he told Malaysian journalists after concluding his three-day official visit to Vietnam yesterday.

Asked about the perfect menu for the pupils’ breakfast, Dr Mahathir said there were many healthy menus which were suitable for the programme.

On Monday, Education Minister Dr Maszlee Malik announced that about 2.7 million pupils in government and government-aided primary schools would receive free breakfast from January.

It was reported that the government would have to spend between RM2bil and RM3bil annually on the programme, depending on the menu.

Read more at https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2019...srbgmmQT0xLr.99

Enough said. Yummy yummy.

Balik2 salah previous gov 😑

“But we must remember that the previous government left behind much debt and the present government has to repay it".

blah blah blah

Why are people complaining about this? International studies have found kids in Malaysia to be super malnourished and stunting is worse than some places that are warzones.

This is one move I thought would be unequivocally praised but ada jugak people wanna complain.

Its as if some people have an agenda to burrukkan segalanya. :/

mca - mestilah cannot agree

Wee questions value of 'free breakfast in schools' plan
28 Aug 2019 SoS

...MCA president Wee Ka Siong has challenged the wisdom of the planned introduction of free breakfast for children in primary schools nationwide.

Wee said, based on his calculations, the government would spend RM1.6 billion to feed some 2.7 million primary school pupils for 200 days in a year.

“Wouldn’t it be better if the amount is spent on helping poor farmers or set aside to build affordable homes and low-cost housing for the poor?” he asked in a Facebook yesterday.

See see, setiap murid dpt nasi lemak sebungkus.
Inside include 2 ekor ikan bilis, telur potong 1/16 and nasi 2 sudu penuh.

did u read what ppl complain?

Ya budget for free breakfast is one thing but what kind food will be given. Entirely different story

Pray enlighten me what complaint makes sense and is valid.

true wat apahal mau butthurt?
if ur father left u the hutang sure u everyday go his grave fck him rite?

wrong meh? your father leave u with hutang keliling bontot he died.. u have to tanggung.. will u fck him at the grave daily?same la

got paid to become dumpster so now got some money to run programme to attract vote

No la, what for?

There are instruments in place to take care of the debt(s) left behind.

If PH was so eager to be government, then just govern la, no need to repeat the same thing over and over again.

Kejap no money, kejap ada. Then all "privatized".

I'm all for the breakfast at schools, it's a good move, especially for the poorer families.

But the same old excuse has to stop la.

nothing is perfect
this project also got flaw

which country no hutang?
even the great US of the A also hutang

this previous government only Najib era or also include the two before him ?

I repeat:

Pray enlighten me what complaint makes sense and is valid.

oy vey.
remember the 6 trillion.

like i pointed out in previous thread
should start with b40 student only, instead of ALL student.
already no money , why so gung ho start for ALL student , cannot start with b40 student 1st? then access how is everything before full launch

by doing this can also help not to strain govt budget , as b40 only breakfast would cost lower then breakfast for ALL student for now.

anak saya baik orgnya

Good idea. There are many poor children who don't have breakfast or don't have enough breakfast, and hopefully this will help them with the development.

And like all good plan, this one don't have any immediate effect you can see, but over the time, hopefully with the right nutrition, we can see increase in scores and other academic achievement.

And please plan for nutritionally sufficient breakfast. Not some mee goreng kosong.

Include him also la kot...
Last time just rage quit.

"Daaahhh lamaaa dahhhhh...."

Ceh teringat breakfast ini pulak,


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Prayer_Breakfast

Copied LGE punya slogan

https://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...ob-from-telekom

Even during Najib time Opcom got receive contract from TM.

Why should B40 students' breakfast cost lower than ALL students?

actually, everytime government spends money for anything that you dont like, or you dont want people to not like it as well, just keep repeating this questions.. it's applicable to all situation..

rather just give the breakfast free to rural area students.. city students malnourished? lol.. in the end the food will be wasted or obese kids for city kids..

aduh bro
what i mean is govt have limited money

so of course logically to PAY all b40 student breakfast cost is lower then pay ALL student breakfast la

b40 student (assume only 200k)
all student (all student in malaysia 900k)
so u tell me which 1 would cost lower?

seriously????

i ask u to pay for 1 person vs ask u to pay for 10 person
which 1 lower ? of course 1 person la aduiiiii

B40 students plan already started long ago, its ineffective.

The study that prompted this came out this year. So idiots like you would want to stick with something that has been proven to not work ... OK. Despite the RMT program, Malaysian kids are suffering from stunting worse than kids in Palestine, which the study shows cuts across groups and isn't just limited to B40.

Nah, if you are just misinformed instead of being a moron, then you can read this:
https://www.malaymail.com/news/what-you-thi...rek-kok/1691833

So once again, I repeat:

Pray enlighten me what complaint makes sense and is valid.

You complaint is not only nonsensical and invalid but worse than that its a suggestion of something that's already being done and PROVEN to be bad. So pat yourself on the back for not only being stupid, but also redundant

got budget to make Malaysia great again? =(

Hello? Did you read the results of the study on stunting?

More city kids are malnourished and suffering from stunting, its not just a rural problem.

Go educate yourself instead of posting nonsense here.

if b40 student plan also not effective, then what make it for ALL student plan will works?

just fix the b40 breakfast plan 1st.

1st malaysia already high debt as what PH said
then why want sponser and give free breakfast for those T20 student?
save some money focus on b40 student 1st cannot???

u said my comment does not make sense?
then ur comment make sense by giving free breakfast for T20 student when govt is in high debt? wow ok i am amaze

This post has been edited by M4A1: Aug 29 2019, 02:45 PM

Wow, already spoonfeed you link and you never read?

The B40 plan is ineffective in solving the problem because of the target, not because the plan doesn't work.

I guess your limited capability for comprehension means you can't understand this concept.

Also, nah since link also you dunno how to click let me copy a relevant part of the article for you:
"While it is more prevalent among the poor, child stunting - which is an indicator for chronic malnutrition in children - cuts across all income levels in Malaysia. In 2016, 29.8 per cent of children below five years from households with less than RM1000 monthly income were stunted, while 17.4 percent of children in households earning more than RM 5000 were stunted – both figures significantly higher than the average 6.9 percent rate of other upper middle income countries. When it comes to obesity, research has shown that the prevalence of obesity rises with income. This means that tackling nutrition issues in children cannot be confined to only the B40 group."

I'm shocked you just support communism.

Not that I'm against this breakfast program, just that I didn't expect someone with Trump avatar will agree with this.

then how is giving free breakfast to ALL student effective? when b40 plan also fail?

i think you mean rural schools.

because i don't think you can check the income of all student family and decide who get the breakfast.

Government limited money, so M40, T20 must pay unsubsidized school fee.
Government limited money, so M40, T20 must pay unsubsidized government clinic, hospital fee.

Poor farmers more important than our future generation. Noted WKS. Excellent logic.

why not?
i am sure during registration govt would know right?


my point is very very clear, i support this program
BUT...BUT not for ALL student.

start slow 1st.....aim poor student.then only go for ALL.

dun jump when u cant even walk

If wanna quote my post, at the very least attempt to read it.

"While it is more prevalent among the poor, child stunting - which is an indicator for chronic malnutrition in children - cuts across all income levels in Malaysia. In 2016, 29.8 per cent of children below five years from households with less than RM1000 monthly income were stunted, while 17.4 percent of children in households earning more than RM 5000 were stunted – both figures significantly higher than the average 6.9 percent rate of other upper middle income countries. When it comes to obesity, research has shown that the prevalence of obesity rises with income. This means that tackling nutrition issues in children cannot be confined to only the B40 group."

Tak boleh paham kah? Need to translate into broken shitty english for you?

u still didnt answer my question.

why should govt give free breakfast to T20 student?
when money is limited...full stop

got money but refinance delay 1mdb hutang to another 50yrs repayment schedule lar

dulu siapa suruh lanunku cilok sampai nak bankrap

Were back to square one. Can we get Agent 47?

wait for misquoted news, mangsa fitnah ph etc.

Already did but you didn't read it, and then continually quoting my post with the answers already in them.

Like this means I have to take you back to kindergarten and teach you basic reading and then graduate to primary school and basic comprehension then after 12 years of schooling you from the basics come back to this thread and have you read and understand things?

Sorry lah, can't spend that much time on you.

Especially since its very likely even after that you'd still end up where you are, because you already went through all this once before and managed to fail at life already.

looks like the so call procedure in place suggested by u is not working,, if it works we will not b in shit like rite now..
any instrument also need ppl to execute it ok.
then good support;s whats good.

those t20 group children doesnt deserve govt subsidies la bro
they are t20 le.....

u want use rakyat money to subsidize anak Ananda krishnan? cucu vincent tan ke?

i think they 1 implement the school like Japan

free breakfast in morning..

1. it took a huge resource to gather the income details of each family, which i think quite pointless here because I don't see the reason.

2. lets say in a class of 40, there's 5 students qualify for the B40 requirement, during breakfast time the teacher will bring 5 set of breakfast to the class and pass it to the 5 students. you know it's awkward and suddenly you are being labeled as B40 (aka poor kid). You need to consider the feeling of the students.

If really want to have breakfast, make the whole school can have it regardless of their income, if 40 kids in the class, prepare 40 set of breakfast and they can choose not to eat if they want. So this will not create a classification gap among them.

you can start with schools that need help the most (usually rural school) for testing.

maybe becuz u need a mechanism to differentiate/segregate them.. & u need money to do this & another additional cost might as well give to all.. further more they are still kids.. lets feed them all.

After MOE printing new text book project, MOE will spend on free breakfast project.....wonder who will get all the project.

Each Bersatu Ketua Bahagian will get a project each?

wah macibai how many times I have to keep posting this.

Also anak AK and cucu VT semua studying in gomen schools ke? Lowly BN ministers also send kids to private school, sohai like you think AK punya anak is studying in SK?

Also, first you say only do with B40, now you talking about T20? The people in the middle suddenly disappear liao?
Its almost as if you have an agenda... Oh wait now we're back at my first post in this topic

1st, i dun want govt use rakyat money to subsidize t20 group....
i am sure u dun want use tax money go subsidize some parent staying at tropicana landed salary 10k above punya kids....

2nd prepare 40, choose not to eat...so what happen to all this food? food wastage....
food wastage = money wastage...ur tax money down the drain

so why not really give / aim the b40

it wont take huge resources, the school has the data of family income when u register.

Ketua-ketua bahagian BERSATU, cawangan perlu diberi projek

PUTRAJAYA 30 Dis. - Naib Presiden Bersatu, Tan Sri Abdul Rashid Abdul Rahman mencadangkan agar ketua-ketua bahagian dan ketua-ketua cawangan Parti Pribumi Bersatu Malaysia (Bersatu) diberikan projek kerajaan.


Beliau menegaskan, ketua-ketua itu perlu memperoleh lebih wang dan peluang bagi membolehkan mereka mempertahankan kemenangan parti dan Pakatan Harapan (PH) pada pilihan raya akan datang.

"Dalam pilihan raya kita kena menang by hook or by crook (dengan apa cara sekali pun). Saya tengok dalam keadaan sekarang, kita tak dapat pertahan kedudukan sebagai pemerintah. Ketua bahagian ditinggalkan begitu saja.


https://www.utusan.com.my/berita/politik/ke...projek-1.813074

PS: No wonder MOE got so many ideas recently. LOL




This post has been edited by ApocalypseSoon: Aug 29 2019, 03:02 PM

school got parent data of income when registration la bro

t20 also send kids to SK

go park around SK during morning time
see those parent all drive what car
thx for ur subsidize

Anyway for all you people taking the moron's suggestion in here to segregate kids and only give them ... read the article I linked.

There are reasons why that doesn't work, the most easily understandable one is when you segregate kids they tend not to take up the optional plan.

Why? You say this thing is only for those poor kids ... you think all the kids gonna be happy go there and announce to everyone they are poor and get made fun of? This is something the studies done have seen happens everywhere, limiting the effectiveness of projects like this.

ON TOP OF THAT, in Malaysia the stunting problem cuts across classes, its not only the B40 that are affected badly, but also the M40. So removing the segregation and making it available for all will not only help the people who currently arent covered, BUT ALSO those who are already eligible by removing the stigma.

This all makes perfect sense. If you can read lah, which some people here have proven they are incapable of.

this one I half agree.. because some city students may also have financial difficulties.

But some have commented also that fix the cleanliness first.

Not my favourite move, but it's still considered a good one.

1. the T20 will not go into public school, most likely they will be in private school with private teachers. I don't think we need to worry about them.

2. the food will not be wasted, the teacher can ask anyone who need it can bring it home, there's plenty of B10 (yes, those who worse than B40) will bring it back home for their family. The point is making sure all the kids felt they are equal and if got extra food who need it can bring home.

waiting how they gonna implement this thing,
if one parent can provide better and tastier bfast,would that student quota go to waste or given to another student?

1st...we dunno if t20 go to what school or not.
aint our debt high? so why are we giving to ALL...like i said now debt high as what LGE said...dun do all 1st cannot? start small n see if it works cannot?
until now we dun even know how is the food , who is the operator , where to eat for ALL student. why need so gung ho start so huge?
i dun want to see tax payer money goes to family with can afford accord n etc.

2.bring it home? the food was prepared midnight as it is prepare for hundreds of student.
bring home means noon time already...later basi...or food poison another issue pulak.
i am not sure midnight prepare food can last until noon or not. and not every food can be done so

still an additional task/procedures rite? wanna further burden the school ppl?

is just a 1 time job to seperate only.
as the food programme is year long

dun they have all this in data / pc?
sort aje by income no?

This post has been edited by M4A1: Aug 29 2019, 03:14 PM

1. if people are worry about debt, they can just test it on a few rural schools to see how it goes. Starting with a few rural schools is also start small what.

2. about food spoilage, it's always the challenge in any food preparation organisation, be it worker canteen or breakfast program. My suggestion it could be in a packaged bread + 1 box of milk, which for me can be safely bring back home and will not spoil.

Anyway, don't worry too much, it's just an idea and not even starting yet.

blom implement lg dh byk complain

i thought they are starting next year already? still IDea?
only left 4 mths to sort everything out

but as usual, sure many hiccup...tu la gung ho sangat


PETALING JAYA: Free breakfast will be served to children in primary schools throughout the country from January next year, Education Minister Maszlee Malik said today.

https://www.theonlinecitizen.com/2019/08/27...-starting-2020/

This post has been edited by M4A1: Aug 29 2019, 03:18 PM

thinking about if got changes In parents income, go to makcik canteen show card makan free?budak lupa how?
I think wateva additional hassle of monitoring can be exclude if all are given..and also pretty sure we do not want students to feel rendah diri when they get it free cuz parents earn lesser than their peers.. u know students now days pandai compare who earn more, who drive wat car, my father richer than ur father bla blalba… do not want to create such dividing standards .

it's not 1 time job.

if the B40 parents next year increase salary become M40 .... so how?

if the M40 parents suddenly lost their job and no money .... so how?

it's very tedious to update who qualify and who not.

might as well give all the student breakfast in the same school.

rich kids parents also pay a lot of taxes to the government, and they don't deserve to have free breakfast as others?

if govt can handle current BR1M

why not this?

let each school handle la, govt no need to stress as when parent register, they already fill up the income form
any changes...go update school la, apa susah

see how first, probably next year the MoE also change head liao

these ministers I tell you ... always hangat2 tahi ayam one, after 1 month they probably change their mind liao

only left 4 mths to prepare all issue of all breakfast to all student.
good luck

i am sure now tender semua sudah out...cause left 4 mths only leh

unless U turn la

But i really do hope they have a proper way to monitor the foods. If cant find a way, postpone it till can find 1.

This is kids health here. Should not do half baked

this is another issue.. stick to the original issue we are debating , which is why t20 also include yada2 why not only b40 .
lol

I think the context is different here.

BR1M you apply privately for individual, gov will not chop on your face say you are B40.

but during breakfast time you will really see who can get the breakfast and who not, which is sometimes making the students feel uncomfortable like being announced they are poorfag.

so i disagree with income segregation

this 1 debate until tmr also no conclusion

i have stated my point
whether everyone agree or not is up to u all

well I think u'll agree with my last point. then suddenly change to execution time line lel

but this segregation is not a NEW thing
current school some also have breakfast for hardcore poor.
so far no complain uncomfortable pun

because when you are hardcore poor, you don't dare to complain when you receive the benefit.

else pipul will call you 'ungrateful brat'

but that doesn't mean they are not hurt when people looking at them while they receiving the 'B40 breakfast'

well lets agree to disagree
since govt is going to start it on next year Jan

of course i respect everyone's opinion

Their kids and those related probably wouldnt even want to touch the nasi lemak with 2 ikan bilis and 1/16 telur potong.
They woke up with beautiful breakfast served fresh and hot.

and the school are providing breakfast to them

Yeah, it would suck if those food quality is as bad as dog food.

I also afraid of those who prepared the food doing things half-assed too.

Also, I agreed with the posters that every child should get the same treatment instead of segregate them. First, it is waste of time, effort and money to separate the children into 2 categories. So much work needed to be done just for a children breakfast.

In my school time, there were a similar food program for poor kids. As result, those who are fortunate enough are making fun of poor kids. Some of those poor kids that I knew were even stop using the free coupon that was entitled to them because they cant handle their peers making fun on them. It was a rather sad case at that time. So if everyone can get the same treatment, no one will be making fun of each other for eating the free breakfast. Also less headache for the canteen owner to identify who is entitled for the free breakfast treatment or not.

at least some of my tax use for good purpose. full suppork

Yes

If I were to pay my taxes to that these kids can be fed, I’ll gladly pay and it’s what taxes are for.
Studies also shows that full kids learn better in class

confirm food sucks la

bn macai spotted lol

what kind of food that is free for all, is gooding?

only PM Raya Open House jer la.