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We have budget for breakfast plan, says Mahathir
We have budget for breakfast plan, says Mahathir
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Aug 29 2019, 02:25 PM
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anak saya baik orgnya
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Aug 29 2019, 02:28 PM
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Good idea. There are many poor children who don't have breakfast or don't have enough breakfast, and hopefully this will help them with the development.
And like all good plan, this one don't have any immediate effect you can see, but over the time, hopefully with the right nutrition, we can see increase in scores and other academic achievement. And please plan for nutritionally sufficient breakfast. Not some mee goreng kosong. |
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Aug 29 2019, 02:28 PM
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Aug 29 2019, 02:30 PM
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Aug 29 2019, 02:31 PM
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Aug 29 2019, 02:31 PM
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QUOTE(pretty23 @ Aug 29 2019, 01:27 PM) https://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...ob-from-telekomEven during Najib time Opcom got receive contract from TM. |
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Aug 29 2019, 02:32 PM
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Aug 29 2019, 02:33 PM
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actually, everytime government spends money for anything that you dont like, or you dont want people to not like it as well, just keep repeating this questions.. it's applicable to all situation..
QUOTE “Wouldn’t it be better if the amount is spent on helping poor farmers or set aside to build affordable homes and low-cost housing for the poor?” he asked in a Facebook yesterday. |
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Aug 29 2019, 02:35 PM
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Aug 29 2019, 02:19 PM) No la, what for? rather just give the breakfast free to rural area students.. city students malnourished? lol.. in the end the food will be wasted or obese kids for city kids..There are instruments in place to take care of the debt(s) left behind. If PH was so eager to be government, then just govern la, no need to repeat the same thing over and over again. Kejap no money, kejap ada. Then all "privatized". I'm all for the breakfast at schools, it's a good move, especially for the poorer families. But the same old excuse has to stop la. |
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Aug 29 2019, 02:37 PM
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QUOTE(raynman @ Aug 29 2019, 02:32 PM) aduh bro what i mean is govt have limited money so of course logically to PAY all b40 student breakfast cost is lower then pay ALL student breakfast la b40 student (assume only 200k) all student (all student in malaysia 900k) so u tell me which 1 would cost lower? seriously???? i ask u to pay for 1 person vs ask u to pay for 10 person which 1 lower ? of course 1 person la aduiiiii |
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Aug 29 2019, 02:40 PM
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Aug 29 2019, 02:25 PM) like i pointed out in previous thread B40 students plan already started long ago, its ineffective.should start with b40 student only, instead of ALL student. already no money , why so gung ho start for ALL student , cannot start with b40 student 1st? then access how is everything before full launch by doing this can also help not to strain govt budget , as b40 only breakfast would cost lower then breakfast for ALL student for now. The study that prompted this came out this year. So idiots like you would want to stick with something that has been proven to not work ... OK. Despite the RMT program, Malaysian kids are suffering from stunting worse than kids in Palestine, which the study shows cuts across groups and isn't just limited to B40. Nah, if you are just misinformed instead of being a moron, then you can read this: https://www.malaymail.com/news/what-you-thi...rek-kok/1691833 So once again, I repeat: QUOTE(M4A1 @ Aug 29 2019, 02:06 PM) Pray enlighten me what complaint makes sense and is valid. You complaint is not only nonsensical and invalid but worse than that its a suggestion of something that's already being done and PROVEN to be bad. So pat yourself on the back for not only being stupid, but also redundant |
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Aug 29 2019, 02:43 PM
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got budget to make Malaysia great again? =(
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Aug 29 2019, 02:43 PM
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Aug 29 2019, 02:35 PM) rather just give the breakfast free to rural area students.. city students malnourished? lol.. in the end the food will be wasted or obese kids for city kids.. Hello? Did you read the results of the study on stunting?More city kids are malnourished and suffering from stunting, its not just a rural problem. Go educate yourself instead of posting nonsense here. |
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Aug 29 2019, 02:43 PM
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QUOTE(RViN @ Aug 29 2019, 02:40 PM) B40 students plan already started long ago, its ineffective. if b40 student plan also not effective, then what make it for ALL student plan will works?The study that prompted this came out this year. So idiots like you would want to stick with something that has been proven to not work ... OK. Despite the RMT program, Malaysian kids are suffering from stunting worse than kids in Palestine, which the study shows cuts across groups and isn't just limited to B40. Nah, if you are just misinformed instead of being a moron, then you can read this: https://www.malaymail.com/news/what-you-thi...rek-kok/1691833 So once again, I repeat: Pray enlighten me what complaint makes sense and is valid. You complaint is not only nonsensical and invalid but worse than that its a suggestion of something that's already being done and PROVEN to be bad. So pat yourself on the back for not only being stupid, but also redundant just fix the b40 breakfast plan 1st. 1st malaysia already high debt as what PH said then why want sponser and give free breakfast for those T20 student? save some money focus on b40 student 1st cannot??? u said my comment does not make sense? then ur comment make sense by giving free breakfast for T20 student when govt is in high debt? wow ok i am amaze This post has been edited by M4A1: Aug 29 2019, 02:45 PM |
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Aug 29 2019, 02:45 PM
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Aug 29 2019, 02:43 PM) if b40 student plan also not effective, then what make it for ALL student plan will works? Wow, already spoonfeed you link and you never read?just fix the b40 breakfast plan 1st. 1st malaysia already high debt as what PH said then why want sponser and give free breakfast for those T20 student? save some money focus on b40 student 1st cannot??? The B40 plan is ineffective in solving the problem because of the target, not because the plan doesn't work. I guess your limited capability for comprehension means you can't understand this concept. Also, nah since link also you dunno how to click let me copy a relevant part of the article for you: "While it is more prevalent among the poor, child stunting - which is an indicator for chronic malnutrition in children - cuts across all income levels in Malaysia. In 2016, 29.8 per cent of children below five years from households with less than RM1000 monthly income were stunted, while 17.4 percent of children in households earning more than RM 5000 were stunted – both figures significantly higher than the average 6.9 percent rate of other upper middle income countries. When it comes to obesity, research has shown that the prevalence of obesity rises with income. This means that tackling nutrition issues in children cannot be confined to only the B40 group." |
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Aug 29 2019, 02:45 PM
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QUOTE(drowning @ Aug 29 2019, 02:28 PM) Good idea. There are many poor children who don't have breakfast or don't have enough breakfast, and hopefully this will help them with the development. I'm shocked you just support communism.And like all good plan, this one don't have any immediate effect you can see, but over the time, hopefully with the right nutrition, we can see increase in scores and other academic achievement. And please plan for nutritionally sufficient breakfast. Not some mee goreng kosong. Not that I'm against this breakfast program, just that I didn't expect someone with Trump avatar will agree with this. |
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Aug 29 2019, 02:46 PM
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QUOTE(RViN @ Aug 29 2019, 02:45 PM) Wow, already spoonfeed you link and you never read? then how is giving free breakfast to ALL student effective? when b40 plan also fail?The B40 plan is ineffective in solving the problem because of the target, not because the plan doesn't work. I guess your limited capability for comprehension means you can't understand this concept. Also, nah since link also you dunno how to click let me copy a relevant part of the article for you: "While it is more prevalent among the poor, child stunting - which is an indicator for chronic malnutrition in children - cuts across all income levels in Malaysia. In 2016, 29.8 per cent of children below five years from households with less than RM1000 monthly income were stunted, while 17.4 percent of children in households earning more than RM 5000 were stunted – both figures significantly higher than the average 6.9 percent rate of other upper middle income countries. When it comes to obesity, research has shown that the prevalence of obesity rises with income. This means that tackling nutrition issues in children cannot be confined to only the B40 group." |
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Aug 29 2019, 02:46 PM
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Aug 29 2019, 02:43 PM) if b40 student plan also not effective, then what make it for ALL student plan will works? i think you mean rural schools.just fix the b40 breakfast plan 1st. 1st malaysia already high debt as what PH said then why want sponser and give free breakfast for those T20 student? save some money focus on b40 student 1st cannot??? u said my comment does not make sense? then ur comment make sense by giving free breakfast for T20 student when govt is in high debt? wow ok i am amaze because i don't think you can check the income of all student family and decide who get the breakfast. |
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Aug 29 2019, 02:48 PM
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Aug 29 2019, 02:37 PM) aduh bro what i mean is govt have limited money so of course logically to PAY all b40 student breakfast cost is lower then pay ALL student breakfast la b40 student (assume only 200k) all student (all student in malaysia 900k) so u tell me which 1 would cost lower? seriously???? i ask u to pay for 1 person vs ask u to pay for 10 person which 1 lower ? of course 1 person la aduiiiii Government limited money, so M40, T20 must pay unsubsidized government clinic, hospital fee. |
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Aug 29 2019, 02:49 PM
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QUOTE(lagista @ Aug 29 2019, 01:59 PM) mca - mestilah cannot agree Poor farmers more important than our future generation. Noted WKS. Excellent logic.Wee questions value of 'free breakfast in schools' plan 28 Aug 2019 SoS ...MCA president Wee Ka Siong has challenged the wisdom of the planned introduction of free breakfast for children in primary schools nationwide. Wee said, based on his calculations, the government would spend RM1.6 billion to feed some 2.7 million primary school pupils for 200 days in a year. “Wouldn’t it be better if the amount is spent on helping poor farmers or set aside to build affordable homes and low-cost housing for the poor?” he asked in a Facebook yesterday. |
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