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 JMB drag me to Tribunal Strata, Not paying maintenance fee

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post Aug 19 2019, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(ahrapture @ Aug 19 2019, 03:55 PM)
Yes, trying to work out a win-win solution now but JMB is acting arrogant. ;/
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LOL. You were unreasonable when you wihthheld the fees due to some dispute with the developer. JMB and developer are 2 separate parties.

Since the JMB had already broght your case to the tribunal, they have to follow through. If they accept your offer to pay in instalments, it is still based on what you a saying now. What if you stop paying after the first few installments?

Secondly, you may not be the only unit that have arrears, the decision to file to the tribunal can be broadbased and they can't be seen playing favouritism in deciding otherwise on case to case basis.


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post Aug 19 2019, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(ahrapture @ Aug 19 2019, 04:19 PM)
they refused to do instalment now and wanted full payment which leaves me no room to negotiate and have to head to tribunal
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Just start paying in instalments, if all the arrears were cleared by the time the next hearing, then case is auto clear.

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post Aug 19 2019, 04:29 PM

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if i owe you 30k since 1 year ago, and now you report police. then i offer paying you back in monthly instalments would you have accepted? dont kid yourself, theres no win-win situation, what youre doing is unfair to other residents.
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post Aug 19 2019, 04:50 PM

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For late payments, by right, there is a clause in the strata title dealing with it... like 10% interest.

If there is no stated penalty, then delay payments as late as possible la.

Usually, JMB would not give order to the clerks to stop or refuse any payment. So you can actually start paying in instalments accordingly to your wishes in variable amounts each month. Important thing is keeping the receipts.

What you should do is clear the outstanding amount claimed in the tribunal as soon as possible.


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post Aug 19 2019, 04:57 PM

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you can try pay 1 or 2 months fee if you have the cash
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post Aug 19 2019, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(ahrapture @ Aug 19 2019, 01:51 PM)
As the title reads, JMB had file to Tribunal strata as I had not been paying maintenance fee due to poor rectification works when I bought the property. The JMB had also shut the water to threaten us (In which turning off the tap fully is illegal). We have made a police report and informed the COB and eventually the management turn back on the water pending Tribunal strata court hearing.

Any of you have faced a similar situation before? What are the possible solution if we agreed to pay during tribunal court hearing? Would there be installments options etc? What are the fines? Thank you guys  biggrin.gif
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Oh wait, u mean the defect by developer and they taking their own sweet time to solve? That issue is between u and developer, not u and JMB. U should file housing tribunal case if there is any defect.


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post Aug 19 2019, 05:29 PM

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u have to pay bro... if they provide poor service that a different story you can voice out your opinion but if you don't pay you cannot voice out and you may require to pay penalty...from your story, it more side to JMB...not to you at all... if go to court I can say you will lose... the poor maintenance on the building are mostly due to residence don't pay the maintenance... last time my apartment the JMB is controlled by the management due to low people attending the JMB meeting and not many people have due on the maintenance bill... but we manage to take over the last 5 years ago...and the people that reside there manage the JMB is better...

You may console with the JMB and make payment partially and they may consider waiving the penalty...that what we have done at our apartment...we gave 50% off or 100% off for the penalty...

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post Aug 19 2019, 05:37 PM

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option for installment plan is up to JMB; you are legally owing full 100% + interest charges
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post Aug 19 2019, 05:56 PM

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Walao ts really know how to offend your neighbors

Jmb can be a strong ally for you
But you choose to fight them

I recall I had a big issue and ask jmb for help
That really help solved my big headache
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post Aug 19 2019, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Aug 19 2019, 05:18 PM)
Oh wait, u mean the defect by developer and they taking their own sweet time to solve? That issue is between u and developer, not u and JMB. U should file housing tribunal case if there is any defect.
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Exactly

Ts made a lot of enemies with his neighbors by doing so


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post Aug 20 2019, 02:40 AM

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open 6 or 12 cheques with total outstanding with official letter chop & sign

they got no reason to reject it , just give them cheques , if they not accept , bring it to court let judge decide

make sure u got prove that you've already providing solution for JMB while they still reject u

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Hope they are currently charging you late payment interest of 10% pa of the outstanding amount. So the later you settle, the more the outstanding amount will become.
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post Aug 20 2019, 06:19 AM

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QUOTE(Hunakadoo @ Aug 20 2019, 02:40 AM)
open 6 or 12 cheques with total outstanding with official letter chop & sign

they got no reason to reject it , just give them cheques , if they not accept , bring it to court let judge decide

make sure u got prove that you've already providing solution for JMB while they still reject u
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This is a good suggestion. I will consider doing this.
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post Aug 20 2019, 08:05 AM

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many still don't know jmb are not developer
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post Aug 20 2019, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Aug 19 2019, 05:18 PM)
Oh wait, u mean the defect by developer and they taking their own sweet time to solve? That issue is between u and developer, not u and JMB. U should file housing tribunal case if there is any defect.
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post Aug 20 2019, 10:31 AM

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TS, you are being selfish and unreasonable.

Developer and JMB are two different entities.

You should still pay your maintenance fees.

How can you feel no shame to continue using the facilities of the apartment but not paying for them?

Pay your maintenance fees, along with the interests that come with it.

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post Aug 20 2019, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(Bora Prisoner @ Aug 20 2019, 10:31 AM)
TS, you are being selfish and unreasonable.

Developer and JMB are two different entities.

You should still pay your maintenance fees.

How can you feel no shame to continue using the facilities of the apartment but not paying for them?

Pay your maintenance fees, along with the interests that come with it.
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chill , punishment from TS will be the 10% interest charge & attend to tribunal court

we didnt know what happened to TS financial or JMB issue itself for the past year ,
Maybe some money even more emergency for him to pay with, so he skipped paying maintenance fees first .

Since he sincerely open thread by saying wanna pay back via installment already , it's better than those who refuse to pay
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QUOTE(Hunakadoo @ Aug 20 2019, 11:03 AM)
chill , punishment from TS will be the 10% interest charge & attend to tribunal court

we didnt know what happened to TS financial or JMB issue itself for the past year ,
Maybe some money even more emergency for him to pay with, so he skipped paying maintenance fees first .

Since he sincerely open thread by saying wanna pay back via installment already , it's better than those who refuse to pay
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What are you on about lah

TS already said the only reason he does not want to pay is because of defects in his apartment, which is really attributed to the developer.

He thinks he is 'punishing' the JMB when instead it should be the Developer that he should take up his grievances with


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post Aug 20 2019, 01:58 PM

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You refused to pay due to poor rectification but you did not set aside the maintenance fee you owe instead you treated it as additional income and spent it all. Looks like you are overextended income wise and this condo might be too expensive for you. My JMB on the other hand steals like BN. Every new committee will think of new projects and the money collected bwill go missing.
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post Aug 20 2019, 02:05 PM

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The JMB is an ally and usually anti developer. By right u should not punish them by not paying the maintenance fees.

My former apartment also same. 70% not paying their maintenance fees. The JMB had to fight with UMNO and PKR people as well as developer to get things done. When things ok, the JMB got booted out and replaced with political parties own people. Now the shit continued.

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