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post Aug 15 2019, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(TheBornLoser @ Aug 15 2019, 03:33 PM)
This is not the right way to protect.

The proper way to protect is for you to protect what is right, and you oppose what is wrong.

You don't simply just protect another guy or gal just because he or she is a "Muslim".

Maybe dalam borang sahaja nama and agama dia tulis Islam. Kelakuan, perkataan, cakapan, tabiat semua macam syaitan. Orang ini masih mahu protect lagi?

And if Muslims are so into protecting other Muslims, why I never hear Muslims complaining about what is happening in Bahrain? In Yemen?

When Muslims bomb marketplaces and tea houses of other Muslims, you all senyap sahaja.

What kind of principles are these?

Any Tuhan, or dewa-dewi will cry with sadness and despair if he sees such "principles" being adopted by people who claim to be His or Her follower / devotee.

Same shit also applies to Malaysia. Do you protect a Malaysian based on principles that are right, or do you protect an outsider based on principles that are wrong?

Do you even know why so many nons right now have given up on sekolah kebangsaan? Because of silly principles like this. No point to have "unity" when you are fighting for a cause that is rubbish and lost. Might as well get every opportunity possible to send your anak-anak and cucu-cicit out of the country.

Sometimes, I don't even know why I spend so much time debating on /k forums. Some people here never think far ahead or in depth... sad.gif
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post Aug 15 2019, 04:35 PM

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Time for PM-8 to take action against Zakir Naik
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post Aug 15 2019, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(juvaan @ Aug 15 2019, 04:28 PM)


nah teaser. dont even need to dig further. internet full of his shit.

kejap lagi cakap taken out of context, misquoted la
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Nice, put an edited version from rapeland. Do you have no shame ka? Damn madafaka rapistard.
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post Aug 15 2019, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(Matgolf @ Aug 15 2019, 04:35 PM)
Nice, put an edited  version  from rapeland. Do you have no shame ka? Damn madafaka rapistard.
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hahahahah... cannot accept the "facts" and hard evidence eh? when nothing to argue then cakap edited pulak. so much for the "TRUTH" rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

quick trivia: guess who was born in rapeland?

This post has been edited by juvaan: Aug 15 2019, 04:39 PM
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post Aug 15 2019, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(juvaan @ Aug 15 2019, 04:38 PM)
hahahahah... cannot accept the "facts" and hard evidence eh? when nothing to argue then cakap edited pulak. so much for the "TRUTH"  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif

quick trivia: guess who was born in rapeland?
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Fact 404
You are descendant of rapisland... That is fact.
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post Aug 15 2019, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(Matgolf @ Aug 15 2019, 04:42 PM)
Fact 404
You are descendant of rapisland... That is fact.
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Speak for yourself. you got no brains but to follow a manipulator and kaki putar like ZN.

Otak mana bhai? cant think for yourself? Need ZN to enlighten your life?

in my view, there are many smart and educated muslims who dont need ZN to guide their path. Now, pick a side.

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post Aug 15 2019, 04:47 PM

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post Aug 15 2019, 04:48 PM

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lol /k mudah terkeliru triggered.gif , as expected.
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post Aug 15 2019, 04:49 PM

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ZN k supporter sama bangang. U know who u r.
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post Aug 15 2019, 04:59 PM

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lol ZN followers all same breed one, poorfag low edu easy to believe anything forwarded via whatsapp

but hor, they got the numbers wo, how? can breed like rabbits cause got others to take care of them liao.

in the end, what can the gomen do?
hantar ZN balik kampung? riot
tak buat apa? nothing happens

so in the end gomen tak buat apa lo

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post Aug 15 2019, 05:01 PM

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Why are people wasting time debating cybertroopers... they're pros man, you'll never win.
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post Aug 15 2019, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(Matgolf @ Aug 15 2019, 04:42 PM)
Fact 404
You are descendant of rapisland... That is fact.
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Wow... Kena lopoted... Is there a country name Rapeland ka? KEK
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QUOTE(amanu @ Aug 15 2019, 03:43 AM)
BAGAIMANA ANDA TERTIPU DENGAN MALAYSIAKINI

Hari ini ramai melompat berkongsi artikel yang sama daripada Mkini mengenai kenyataan Zakir Naik mahu menghalau orang Cina.

Dr Zakir Naik bukan maksum dari kesilapan, tapi saya rasa ramai orang x menilai dengan adil. Biar saya jelaskan.

1) Kalau hanya ambil quote

"before me, the Chinese were the guests. If you want the new guest to go first, ask the old guest to go back."

Sudah tentu kenyataan ini berbaur hasutan dan rasis. Tapi manalah adil untuk menilai ucapan hanya dengan satu ayat yang tiada konteks?

Sebab itu kita dapat faham konteks, sebelum beliau sebut tentang itu, pada awal ucapan sebenarnya beliau sedang menerangkan tentang sejarah Malaysia.

"(historically,) the majority (of Malaysians) almost all were non-Muslims and almost all became Muslims MashaAllah."

Masih lagi bercakap tentang sejarah, beliau menyambung:

"Later on, there are people coming afterwards."

"Malaysia, (which) became fully Muslim, then you have the Chinese come in, the Indians come in... They are our new guests."

Saya nak highlight macam mana beliau gunakan terma "tetamu". Bagi saya itu pun dah tunjukkan niat beliau baik. Ada banyak sahaja cara untuk menggambarkan imigran, tapi beliau sebut "tetamu"; orang yang dialu-alukan.

2) Kemudian dia selit pasal kes dia. Bagaimana orang pun panggil dia tetamu;

"Somebody called me a guest (like the chinese). Before me, the chinese were the guest."

"They (the chinese) arent born here (seperti beliau). Most of them. Maybe the new generation, yes."

Jelas dia bukan mudah2 nak halau semua cina. Kalau tak, dia takkan mengaku ada generasi baru yang memang warganegara.

"So if you want the new guest (merujuk pada beliau, yang dah ada taraf penduduk tetap) to go first, ask the old guest to go back."

Statement ni dia nak buat analogi, kenapa orang Hindu ekstremis nak halau dia sedangkan dia pun tetamu seperti Cina?

Ya, kita boleh baca statement tu dengan nada menghalau, atau nada nak buat perumpamaan, your choice.

3) Ramai orang kata Zakir Naik melampau, orang Cina juga adalah keluarga kita juga!

Jelas anda tak dengar sampai habis,

"If you want the guest to go back, and those guests (Chinese, or himself) are bringing peace in the community, they are benefit for the family (Malaysia)."

Bagi saya, jelaslah beliau bukannya suruh kita halau Cina pun. Tak nampak apa motif beliau nak halau, tapi masih gelar mereka tetamu, dan bawa manfaat bagi "keluarga".

Permainan Malaysiakini jelas hanya nak petik ayat kontroversi untuk timbulkan perpecahan.

Malaysiakini ada pilihan untuk petik macam-macam kenyataan Dr Zakir Naik, tetapi mereka faham orang tak akan melompat kalau ianya bukan satu statement yang menyentuh perkauman. Dan mereka faham rakyat Malaysia ni mudah tertipu.

Hatta pak menteri pun boleh terpedaya sampai cepat mengkritik. Begitu licik hasutan MKini.

Berhati-hati dengan fitnah akhir zaman. Bila MKini buat artikel, double and triple check sebelum percaya.

Kita semua dah lali dah dengan berapa kali MKini putar belit kenyataan demi nak timbulkan kontroversi, meramaikan pembacanya. Tak payahlah percaya lagi media kaki putar.

Nabi SAW dah beri amaran pada kita:

“Akan datang kepada manusia tahun-tahun yang penuh dengan tipuan. Pada waktu itu si pendusta dikatakan benar dan orang yang benar dikatakan dusta..." HR Ibnu Majah

Semoga Allah menyelamatkan kita daripada fitnah.
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Retarded apologist excuse.

Do try explaining away the bit where he said majority of us were not even born here. Did he study our history? Did you?

We were brought here to work the tin mines during British Colonialism. We have earned the right to be more than merely guests in this country. We are actual citizens of this country, and any who dare suggests we are guests can go fuck off.

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post Aug 15 2019, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(TheBornLoser @ Aug 15 2019, 03:33 PM)
This is not the right way to protect.

The proper way to protect is for you to protect what is right, and you oppose what is wrong.

You don't simply just protect another guy or gal just because he or she is a "Muslim".

Maybe dalam borang sahaja nama and agama dia tulis Islam. Kelakuan, perkataan, cakapan, tabiat semua macam syaitan. Orang ini masih mahu protect lagi?

And if Muslims are so into protecting other Muslims, why I never hear Muslims complaining about what is happening in Bahrain? In Yemen?

When Muslims bomb marketplaces and tea houses of other Muslims, you all senyap sahaja.

What kind of principles are these?

Any Tuhan, or dewa-dewi will cry with sadness and despair if he sees such "principles" being adopted by people who claim to be His or Her follower / devotee.

Same shit also applies to Malaysia. Do you protect a Malaysian based on principles that are right, or do you protect an outsider based on principles that are wrong?

Do you even know why so many nons right now have given up on sekolah kebangsaan? Because of silly principles like this. No point to have "unity" when you are fighting for a cause that is rubbish and lost. Might as well get every opportunity possible to send your anak-anak and cucu-cicit out of the country.

Sometimes, I don't even know why I spend so much time debating on /k forums. Some people here never think far ahead or in depth... sad.gif
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I agree on this. All of them only focus on what's news related to Muslim. In China there, in Palestinian there. But please la, so many things happening on the world, they tends to only focus on the religion related part

Everything also plotek orang kito. Without find out right or wrong. Brain wash 999999🤪
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post Aug 15 2019, 05:25 PM

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i am conversant in english, yet i cant understand what zakir is speaking
siapa yg bawa dia masuk ?

if really want to import clerics
bring lah classy ones like this dr




so many other choices out there


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QUOTE(tokdukun @ Aug 15 2019, 01:57 PM)
I couldn't care less. I have long since abandoned my malay, islam identity because of the bs perpetuated by 99% of those that claim to do something in the name of agama dan bangsa.

Just the other thread can see, meleis bash cardock youtube channel, expect him to do free work to tolong olang kiter. Bodoh.

ZN, hadi, pas, umno all penunggang agama, bangsa, demi melayu, islam blabla, cock la.

Stopped believe in islam according to all these ustaz, preacher, mufti etc. I only select ones i can agree to as being fair and logical to be a decent human being living in this world with other people. Truly practicing to be peaceful.

But not all these bargers, that shout islam the religion of peace, then insult nons, threaten fellow muslim wanna behead him in the name of islam and malay.

You insult islam, i just see it as insult on their islam. My islam i believe in is my own, it too see 99% of their islam as sesat.
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Err... bro, coming from a non-muslim here... perhaps you may want to be careful a bit with your words? Wouldn't want you to get into trouble, honestly speaking sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif
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QUOTE(bigwolf @ Aug 15 2019, 05:33 PM)
Err... bro, coming from a non-muslim here... perhaps you may want to be careful a bit with your words? Wouldn't want you to get into trouble, honestly speaking  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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If they're good muslims, they'd just wish me well, hope i insaf and kembali ke jalan yang benar. So long I don't spread hatred, I did nothing wrong against Islam, just I refuse to bow to so called experts, yet they're the one spreading hatred, violence etc.

Anyone that threatens wanna behead me for asking that terrorist to balik India, he's no muslim nor malay, just a nuthead.

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