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TrustULoveU
post Aug 15 2019, 08:56 AM

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only bodo people wan him in the country
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post Aug 15 2019, 08:58 AM

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"They are our new guests"

He used Our, who is he? Is he a Malaysian?
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post Aug 15 2019, 09:01 AM

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He's wrong. He wants to use truth, he can point it to the migrants back then NOT today.

Today he is a migrant and the people here are born.

so NOPE. Lies all over, pandai aje preach but context mcm bodo.
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ambik kenyataan separuh2, ramai IQ rendah triggered

very amusing, im eating popcorn
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post Aug 15 2019, 09:02 AM

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coming from one who fled from his own country
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post Aug 15 2019, 09:09 AM

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All these religious and racial issue by ZN could be instructed by that old horse. His support by Malays are dropping.
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post Aug 15 2019, 09:11 AM

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When a foreigner is telling us that "You are not Malaysian, you are a guest" ,that's already crossing a line.
We are all born in Malaysia yet he is trying to put Indians/Chinese into the same category as he is in now, it shows that he is totally oblivious to the fact that we are all born in Malaysia.
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QUOTE(darknessfx2018 @ Aug 15 2019, 12:35 AM)
As predict..malaysiakini.. freemalaysiatoday.. is just rubbish like sin chew daily...

Really plotek punye
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post Aug 15 2019, 09:17 AM

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Still sounds like he's asking the non-Malays to get out of the country.
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post Aug 15 2019, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(aeonbig @ Aug 15 2019, 09:11 AM)
When a foreigner is telling us that "You are not Malaysian, you are a guest" ,that's already crossing a line.
We are all born in Malaysia yet he is trying to put Indians/Chinese into the same category as he is in now, it shows that he is totally oblivious to the fact that we are all born in Malaysia.
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Don't dispute that fella, who knows by tomorrow he could have been awarded citizenship by our beloved politician.
Did you see how he arrive at the stadium to give speech, VVIP treatment with police bikers leading....... Fuuuh notworthy.gif
We luv receiving rejected rubbish from other countries, plastics, radio active waste....... now wanted criminal from another country.
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we need an asylum seeker to tell us what we should do? wow......i can (barely) tahan if my own malaysian always question other non-muslim belongings but from this zakir chap? ..and yet some of you are defending him....sad bro....very sad....
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post Aug 15 2019, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(ZeaXG @ Aug 15 2019, 09:17 AM)
Still sounds like he's asking the non-Malays to get out of the country.
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Guess who told him about such rhetoric? innocent.gif
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post Aug 15 2019, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(bani_prime @ Aug 15 2019, 12:24 AM)
Serious guys....sometimes u have to listem to everything rather than part of it. Provide transcript
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Listen video here

I dont know how to ebeed video from fb

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid...92&id=716388591

“… Malaysia menjadi Muslim sepenuhnya. Kemudian Cina datang, India datang, orang Inggeris (British) datang. Mereka adalah tetamu baru kita. Kamu tahu tak yang ada orang yang panggil saya seorang tetamu? Jadi saya kata, sebelum saya (datang), kaum Cina adalah tetamu. Jika kamu mahu tetamu baru keluar dulu, minta tetamu lama pulang. Kaum Cina, kebanyakan dari mereka tidak lahir di sini, mungkin generasi baru, ya (lahir di sini). Jika kamu mahu tetamu itu pulang, dan tetamu lain yang membawa keamanan dalam sesuatu komuniti tersebut, mereka (tetamu itu) membawa manfaat kepada keluarga itu,”  – Transkrip ucapan Dr Zakir Naik oleh Malaysiakini.

Berikut merupakan transkrip lebih panjang berdasarkan konteks yang kami sediakan berdasarkan video itu:

“Which muslim army went to indonesia which has the largest muslim population in the world?
Which muslim army went to Malaysia? Which muslim army went to east coast of Afrika? 
Where many countries the majority population are muslim. Which sword? They did by the class.
Traders went.
Which army went to Malaysia?
Which army went to Indonesia?
The majority almost all were non muslim then all became muslim masya allah.
And Later on, more people are coming afterwards, Malaysia became fully muslim, then you have the chinese coming, the indian coming, the british coming, 
They are all new guest. There are somebody call me a guest. But I said before me the chinese are the guest. The aren’t born here.
If you want the new guest to go first, ask the old guest to go back. The chinese, never born here most of them. Maybe the  new generation yes. If you want the guest to go back and those guest which are bringing peace to the community, there are benefit for the family.” – Transcript of Dr Zakir Naik speech by Buletin TTKM.

Terjemahan oleh Buletin TTKM:

“Tentera muslim mana yang pergi ke Indonesia yang mempunyai penduduk muslim terbesar di dunia?
Tentera muslim mana yang pergi ke Malaysia? Tentera muslim mana yang pergi ke pantai timur Afrika,dimana banyak negara penduduk majoriti adalah muslim. Pedang mana? Mereka lakukan oleh kelas.
Pedagang yang pergi.
Tentera mana yang pergi ke Malaysia?
Tentera mana yang pergi ke Indonesia?
Majoriti (populasi) hampir semua bukan muslim kemudian semuanya menjadi muslim, Masya allah.
Dan kemudian, lebih ramai orang  datang selepas itu, Malaysia menjadi muslim sepenuhnya, maka anda ada kedatangan cina, kedatangan orang India, kedatangan british, Mereka semua adalah tetamu baru. Ada orang yang memanggil saya tetamu. Tetapi saya katakan sebelum ini cina adalah tetamu. The bukan lahir di sini.
Jika anda mahu tetamu baru pergi dahulu, tanyakan tetamu lama untuk kembali. Cina, tidak pernah lahir di sini kebanyakannya. Mungkin generasi baru ya (lahir di sini). Jika anda mahu tetamu balik dan tetamu yang membawa keamanan kepada masyarakat, ada manfaat untuk keluarga itu. “– Transkrip ucapan Dr Zakir Naik oleh Buletin TTKM
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Dont see how the longer speech changes the context of what the offending speech is saying. Still offends esp since he isnt even a citizen.
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post Aug 15 2019, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(Jackie-Cham @ Aug 15 2019, 12:32 AM)
There's no more guests when Malaysia formed.
When Malaysia gained her independence, we are all Malaysians.
What bullshit is this so called guests?
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Not saying i like him (cant understand why ppl like him) but he mentioned that 'good' guest that beneficial to the country should be welcomed - he then said that everyone not born in this country is a guest here and if he should go home , then those ppl also need go home

He also mentioned that those born and bred in Malaysia is not included in his example

Kinda way Mkini just took a part of his speech and it turn out very wrong

This post has been edited by Stigonboard: Aug 15 2019, 09:21 AM
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post Aug 15 2019, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(Chekusan2019 @ Aug 15 2019, 09:20 AM)
Dont see how the longer speech changes the context of what the offending speech is saying. Still offends esp since he isnt even a citizen.
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agreed

why used the term guest

when they already long here before any of us

who is he to question our brethren?
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lets just accept all guest
guest dont argue with guest
duduk diam2
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post Aug 15 2019, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Aug 15 2019, 09:20 AM)
Not saying i like him (cant understand why ppl like him) but he mentioned that 'good' guest that beneficial to the country should be welcomed - he then said that everyone not born in this country is a guest here and if he should go home , then those ppl also need go home

He also mentioned that those born and bred in Malaysia is not included in his example

Kinda way Mkini just took a part of his speech and it turn out very wrong
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He being a wanted criminal and asylum seeker here is in no position to tell citizens here who is guest. This person is toxic.
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post Aug 15 2019, 09:24 AM

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We are the citizen. He is a fcking bullshit equating himself with the citizen.
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post Aug 15 2019, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Aug 15 2019, 09:20 AM)
Not saying i like him (cant understand why ppl like him) but he mentioned that 'good' guest that beneficial to the country should be welcomed - he then said that everyone not born in this country is a guest here and if he should go home , then those ppl also need go home

He also mentioned that those born and bred in Malaysia is not included in his example

Kinda way Mkini just took a part of his speech and it turn out very wrong
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the term guest already wrong

he should do more research

those who not born in tanah melayu already long gone hmm.gif


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